enfield303
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With the way the car market has been sucking wind lately, I have been considering a change of scenery. I have given some thought to Texas. Tell me why I should move there.
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Nathanael_Greene
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Let's see...no state income tax, free 'n' easy firearms laws, relatively low cost of living, fair amount of economic opportunity, lots of different places to live--everything from coastal swamps to high desert.
Pretty girls, good barbecue (beef, that is), 4,000,000 whitetail deer, 2,000,000 feral hogs, mild winters...
There are lots worse places to be, that's for sure!
Pretty girls, good barbecue (beef, that is), 4,000,000 whitetail deer, 2,000,000 feral hogs, mild winters...
There are lots worse places to be, that's for sure!
enfield303
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My background is in Sales. I have been selling cars for a little over two years now. would like to do something in the firearms world. Sales, managing a range, etc.
Texas sucks! You would not like it here. It is too hot. You would not like it here. There are too many damn yankees here already. You would not like it here. Please do yourself a favor and do not move here! Thank you. 
Edited to make sure you knew I was kidding.
Edited to make sure you knew I was kidding.
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It's going to be hard to make a decent living in the firearms world. Selling cars might suck as a job but if you are good, you will make more money than working at a range for close to minimum.
A salaried employee in the gun world - better be a waiter in a high end restaurant. Or learn to be a nurse - we have many high being opportunities here. Seriously.
A salaried employee in the gun world - better be a waiter in a high end restaurant. Or learn to be a nurse - we have many high being opportunities here. Seriously.
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Texas is about the best place on earth. You wont make much of a living in the firearms world. Hell, I am hiring if you are interested. (And you are not likely to find a job in manegment at a range and it doesnt pay well if you do)
If you can sell, cars are not the only game. (One of the worst, if you are good the money is OK but the hours SUCK) For the same kind of money, but less hours Why not try something else. Mobil homes are a good one. So are Travel Trailers and RVs. Furniture stores pay rather well if it is high end. Hell, things like selling swimming pools and hot tubs can pay better than selling cars with much better hours.
If you can sell, cars are not the only game. (One of the worst, if you are good the money is OK but the hours SUCK) For the same kind of money, but less hours Why not try something else. Mobil homes are a good one. So are Travel Trailers and RVs. Furniture stores pay rather well if it is high end. Hell, things like selling swimming pools and hot tubs can pay better than selling cars with much better hours.
Otherguy Overby
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Texas taxes
If you happen to have a bunch of vehicles (like I do) beware the $90 fee/tax for first time registration in Texas. I would have had to fork over around 1,000 dollars for my fleet. Also it would have been almost a full time job for me to keep up with the required vehicle inspections there.
Texas property taxes are 2% on improvements (structures) and the property they are on. Buy rural acreage and you must remember to maintain the agricultural exeption on your unimproved land because the penalties can be draconian.
If you happen to have a bunch of vehicles (like I do) beware the $90 fee/tax for first time registration in Texas. I would have had to fork over around 1,000 dollars for my fleet. Also it would have been almost a full time job for me to keep up with the required vehicle inspections there.
Texas property taxes are 2% on improvements (structures) and the property they are on. Buy rural acreage and you must remember to maintain the agricultural exeption on your unimproved land because the penalties can be draconian.
chris in va
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After living in the DFW area for years, I simply cannot understand why anybody would want to live there. Nasty nasty summers, dreary no-snow winters, illegals everywhere. Nothing 'natural' to do, everything is concrete and asphalt.
One good thing I remember...the girls are HOOOOTTTT. And sociable.
Gun laws aren't bad either.
One good thing I remember...the girls are HOOOOTTTT. And sociable.
Gun laws aren't bad either.
Rinehartdv
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Chris, I have to agree with you on DFW. However, I have family out in the country and visit as often as I can. These small Texas towns are the REAL Texas!!! Raychris in va said:
Brad Johnson
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May I be the first to extend you an invitation to Lubbock and environs.
A few factoids
At an estimated 206,481 Lubbock is the 90th largest city in the U.S. This does not include the 30,000 students at Texas Tech and the estimated 12,000 students at Lubbock Christian University, Wayland Baptist, and South Plains College. (If these were included, Lubbock would be ranked as the 70th largest city in the U.S.)
The census figure does not include the estimated 250,000 people that use Lubbock as a main economic hub (those living within a 60 mile radius).
Due to foresight and planning, you can get almost anywhere in the city within 15 minutes - a fact verified by the U.S. Census bureau.
We have big city amenities and services but still feel like a small town.
Home prices are low. A generic 1500 sq ft 3/2/2 will set you back about $110,000. A really nice 1800-2000 sq ft 3/2/2 will be somewhere in the $140-$180K range.
Good neighbors (unless you live next door to me )
We have more restaurants per capita than any other city in the U.S.
As was said before, Texas has no state income tax. In lieu, we have property and sales taxes. In the Lubbock area, your property tax will be appx 2.3-2.5% of the taxable value of the home. The largest tax variable is school taxes. Sales tax varies a few tenths of a percent by city, but usually runs around 8%. Commodities (non-prepared food items) are exempted from sales tax.
The average summer high is in the mid 90's with 30-50% humidity and a southwest breeze. The average summer low is in the low 70's (same humidity, same breeze). It is not uncommon for us to see temps in the upper 100's and low one-teens during the dead of summer. The constant breeze and low humidity make it tolerable. It is also not uncommon to have thunderstorms during spring and summer. We are, after all, the southern anchor point for tornado alley. Yes, we get tornados occasionally, but large hail and high winds are the main threats. And it makes for some dang pretty sunsets!
The average winter high is in the low 60's. The average winter low is in the mid 30's. We MIGHT get 3-4 inches of snow once or twice a year. It is usually gone the next day. It is not uncommon to occasionally see low temps dip into the low twenties and upper teens, although it is rare to see them in the single digits. Every few years we will get a severe winter storm with ice and cold temps, but snow is not as common here as it is just a little further north.
We have a pretty good airport with major carrier service to Dallas, Houston, and Austin. We also have direct regional service to several other large metro areas.
Lubbock is also close enough to interesting places you can make long weekends into some pretty nice "drive it" trips.
Travel time to:
Amarillo - 2 hrs
Abilene - 3 hrs
Midland/Odessa - 2 hrs
Ft. Worth - 4-5 hrs
Dallas - 5-6 hrs
Austin - 6-7 hrs
San Antonio - 7-8 hrs
Houston - 8-9 hrs
Albuqurque - 5 hrs
Santa Fe - 5 Hrs
Oklahoma City - 6 hrs
Denver - 9 hrs
Flagstaff - 9 hrs
Scottsdale/Phoenix - 10 hrs
Ski Apache (Ruidoso) - 3.5 hrs
Angel Fire - 6 hrs
Red River Ski Mountain - 6.5 hrs
Toas Ski Basin - 7 hrs
Wolf Creek Pass - 10 hrs
Lake Alan Henry (a pretty decent little lake) - 45 minutes.
Lake Kemp - 3 hrs
Possum Kingdom - 4 hrs
Lake Texhoma - 8 hrs
Caprock Canyons State Park - 1 hr
Palo Duro Canyon - 2 hrs
Carlsbad Caverns - 3.5 hrs
White Sands Nat'l Monument - 5 hrs
Big Bend National Park - 6 hrs
mountains of Northern New Mexico5-7 hs
mountains of Southwestern Colorado (!!!) - 10-12 hrs
Grand Canyon - 11 hrs
Las Vegas - 13 hrs (or a 45 minute direct flight)
As a final note - Lubbock is growing. And fast! Topping 200,000, plus our very low cost of living, has begun to attract a lot of attention from major industry. We are also on the route for the Ports to Plains corridor which will be the major north-south routh for goods from northern Mexico to southwestern Canada. Estimated completetion for the PtPC is 10-15 years.
Lubbock may be flat and breezy but there are lots of nice folks here, it is cheap to live, and we have all the services of a much larger town. It is still painfully conservative on a lot of things (to the point of being self-limited at times) but making headway. I've been several places and always end up coming back here.
Brad
A few factoids
At an estimated 206,481 Lubbock is the 90th largest city in the U.S. This does not include the 30,000 students at Texas Tech and the estimated 12,000 students at Lubbock Christian University, Wayland Baptist, and South Plains College. (If these were included, Lubbock would be ranked as the 70th largest city in the U.S.)
The census figure does not include the estimated 250,000 people that use Lubbock as a main economic hub (those living within a 60 mile radius).
Due to foresight and planning, you can get almost anywhere in the city within 15 minutes - a fact verified by the U.S. Census bureau.
We have big city amenities and services but still feel like a small town.
Home prices are low. A generic 1500 sq ft 3/2/2 will set you back about $110,000. A really nice 1800-2000 sq ft 3/2/2 will be somewhere in the $140-$180K range.
Good neighbors (unless you live next door to me
)We have more restaurants per capita than any other city in the U.S.
As was said before, Texas has no state income tax. In lieu, we have property and sales taxes. In the Lubbock area, your property tax will be appx 2.3-2.5% of the taxable value of the home. The largest tax variable is school taxes. Sales tax varies a few tenths of a percent by city, but usually runs around 8%. Commodities (non-prepared food items) are exempted from sales tax.
The average summer high is in the mid 90's with 30-50% humidity and a southwest breeze. The average summer low is in the low 70's (same humidity, same breeze). It is not uncommon for us to see temps in the upper 100's and low one-teens during the dead of summer. The constant breeze and low humidity make it tolerable. It is also not uncommon to have thunderstorms during spring and summer. We are, after all, the southern anchor point for tornado alley. Yes, we get tornados occasionally, but large hail and high winds are the main threats. And it makes for some dang pretty sunsets!
The average winter high is in the low 60's. The average winter low is in the mid 30's. We MIGHT get 3-4 inches of snow once or twice a year. It is usually gone the next day. It is not uncommon to occasionally see low temps dip into the low twenties and upper teens, although it is rare to see them in the single digits. Every few years we will get a severe winter storm with ice and cold temps, but snow is not as common here as it is just a little further north.
We have a pretty good airport with major carrier service to Dallas, Houston, and Austin. We also have direct regional service to several other large metro areas.
Lubbock is also close enough to interesting places you can make long weekends into some pretty nice "drive it" trips.
Travel time to:
Amarillo - 2 hrs
Abilene - 3 hrs
Midland/Odessa - 2 hrs
Ft. Worth - 4-5 hrs
Dallas - 5-6 hrs
Austin - 6-7 hrs
San Antonio - 7-8 hrs
Houston - 8-9 hrs
Albuqurque - 5 hrs
Santa Fe - 5 Hrs
Oklahoma City - 6 hrs
Denver - 9 hrs
Flagstaff - 9 hrs
Scottsdale/Phoenix - 10 hrs
Ski Apache (Ruidoso) - 3.5 hrs
Angel Fire - 6 hrs
Red River Ski Mountain - 6.5 hrs
Toas Ski Basin - 7 hrs
Wolf Creek Pass - 10 hrs
Lake Alan Henry (a pretty decent little lake) - 45 minutes.
Lake Kemp - 3 hrs
Possum Kingdom - 4 hrs
Lake Texhoma - 8 hrs
Caprock Canyons State Park - 1 hr
Palo Duro Canyon - 2 hrs
Carlsbad Caverns - 3.5 hrs
White Sands Nat'l Monument - 5 hrs
Big Bend National Park - 6 hrs
mountains of Northern New Mexico5-7 hs
mountains of Southwestern Colorado (!!!) - 10-12 hrs
Grand Canyon - 11 hrs
Las Vegas - 13 hrs (or a 45 minute direct flight)
As a final note - Lubbock is growing. And fast! Topping 200,000, plus our very low cost of living, has begun to attract a lot of attention from major industry. We are also on the route for the Ports to Plains corridor which will be the major north-south routh for goods from northern Mexico to southwestern Canada. Estimated completetion for the PtPC is 10-15 years.
Lubbock may be flat and breezy but there are lots of nice folks here, it is cheap to live, and we have all the services of a much larger town. It is still painfully conservative on a lot of things (to the point of being self-limited at times) but making headway. I've been several places and always end up coming back here.
Brad
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Texas is hot....cept when it ain't. Texas women are beautiful and loud mouthed. Yankees are kept at arms length...just kiddin'....but seriously, you need to buy a cowboy hat and wear it in public within one week of being in Texas or you will be banished from the Lone Star State.
In Texas you are required to like football and NASCAR and view soccer with suspicion.
In Texas you are required to open the door for women and use the word "ya'll" with a straight face.
In Texas you need to acquire a taste for beer, hunting and tall tales.
In Texas you will be mandated to tell everyone "I ain't from around these parts" for at least 6 months upon moving here. That away someone will realize you are just a Yankee, not a rude Texan.
In Texas using a signal when changing lanes is optional.
In Texas you WILL pull over whenever a funeral passes by.
In Texas you will learn NOT to laugh at a State Trooper when he pulls you over, just because they wear a tan uniform, with a blue trim, a stripe on the pants and a red patch with blue writing and a white cowboy hat...no matter how ridiculous it looks.....
In Texas you are required to like football and NASCAR and view soccer with suspicion.
In Texas you are required to open the door for women and use the word "ya'll" with a straight face.
In Texas you need to acquire a taste for beer, hunting and tall tales.
In Texas you will be mandated to tell everyone "I ain't from around these parts" for at least 6 months upon moving here. That away someone will realize you are just a Yankee, not a rude Texan.
In Texas using a signal when changing lanes is optional.
In Texas you WILL pull over whenever a funeral passes by.
In Texas you will learn NOT to laugh at a State Trooper when he pulls you over, just because they wear a tan uniform, with a blue trim, a stripe on the pants and a red patch with blue writing and a white cowboy hat...no matter how ridiculous it looks.....
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TexasRifleman
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Texas sucks. Stay out.
(Oh wait. You are from Iowa. Well, I guess that's OK. Texas is great.
Don't tell anyone.)
Texas sucks, stay out.
(Oh wait. You are from Iowa. Well, I guess that's OK. Texas is great.
Don't tell anyone.)
Texas sucks, stay out.
Dan Morris
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30 years ago, I moved to Gods Country....I wonder why... daily....Expaterate, Texan
Dan
PS...NEVER had a problem the the THP Red Patchers......They are the greatest troopers whut ever ran the pavement!
Dan
PS...NEVER had a problem the the THP Red Patchers......They are the greatest troopers whut ever ran the pavement!
txffl
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what part of TX? I have lived west, east, central and now north. There is a wide range of humidity, temp, rain/snow/sleet, hills/flat/woods/desert, big city life or small town. Not all of TX is friendly, not all of TX is gun-friendly, and not all of TX speaks English! I am native, and would rather live somewhere less populated. However, I understand that you need to be where you can make a livin'- sure seems like there are lots of auto sales lots around. Good luck.
dracphelan
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Texas is hot and humid 9 months of the year. The other 3 months vary from geat to miserable.
We have mosquitos that occasionally fly off with small children.
We have idiots who insist on driving pick-ups and SUVs like German sports cars.
But, otherwise, it's not that bad on the job front, as long as you have skills. Though, as others have said, firearms are not the way to get rich.
We have mosquitos that occasionally fly off with small children.
We have idiots who insist on driving pick-ups and SUVs like German sports cars.
But, otherwise, it's not that bad on the job front, as long as you have skills. Though, as others have said, firearms are not the way to get rich.
ezypikns
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Texas is a great place to live...
but if you want to hunt (besides doves), you'd better be a rich man. Very little public land and what there is is very overcrowded. Corporate leases have destroyed hunting opportunities for average folks. Just my opinion.
but if you want to hunt (besides doves), you'd better be a rich man. Very little public land and what there is is very overcrowded. Corporate leases have destroyed hunting opportunities for average folks. Just my opinion.
Brad Johnson
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Maybe in the third you live in. Come out west, my son. Enjoy the dry air!
Brad
dasmi
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Oh, we've got all three in California! Aren't we lucky.
Legion1776
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chris in va said:
Just about says it all. Stay away from the metroplex.
TexasRifleman
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ezypikns said:
Your opinion is fact I believe. It's a real shame. I'm lucky enough to have 100 acres out west of Ft Worth, but it just sickens me the way things have turned out. Corporations paying stupid money for hunting leases have ruined the possibility of a normal human having access. I refuse to lease mine at any price.
That is so true. I've never seen crazier drivers than in Dallas. During my last visit there, I saw multiple instances of people in Expeditions and Suburbans passing rush hour traffic on the right hand shoulder at 90-100 mph and then weaving across mutiple lanes at the same speed. Other than that...I love Texas.
Amarillo, Texas. Population 180,000 +/-, of which 52% is of the distaff side of the species.
Median household income is $34,900 +/-, and the median house value is 74,400 +/-.
As for the weather, I have attached charts comparing Amarillo to the U.S. average.
I should warn you that the wind chart is probably fairly conservative.
LawDog
Median household income is $34,900 +/-, and the median house value is 74,400 +/-.
As for the weather, I have attached charts comparing Amarillo to the U.S. average.
I should warn you that the wind chart is probably fairly conservative.
LawDog
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Legion1776 said:
I dunno....I live in the metroplex...of course it is crowded...has crime...nothing natural to do....but the girls are HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHOTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!
So what's not to love?
fallingblock
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It may seem irrelevant for someone now in Australia to reply....
But as a former resident of Pearsall, Denton and Study Butte,
I think you would like the great state of Texas.
I remember Texas as the most pleasant U.S. state in which I have resided.
Great food - friendly wimminfolk - wide variety in climate and scenery -
low cost of living outside the big cities.....what's not to like?
But as a former resident of Pearsall, Denton and Study Butte,
I think you would like the great state of Texas.
I remember Texas as the most pleasant U.S. state in which I have resided.
Great food - friendly wimminfolk - wide variety in climate and scenery -
low cost of living outside the big cities.....what's not to like?
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