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Tell me about your 9mm Luger loads with Titegroup

Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by Lone_Gunman, Mar 22, 2009.

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  1. Lone_Gunman

    Lone_Gunman Member

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    I am working up some loads in 9mm using 115g FMJs. I am using 4.3g of Titegroup. What do you think of that combination?

    What kind of experience have you had with Titegroup and 115g FMJs?
     
  2. RDA 226sig

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    Titegroup works great for 9mm Luger 115g FMJs but in my firearm it was a bit dirty at lower charges. I use 4.7g and it works well in my CZ.
     
  3. 45ACPUSER

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    The better question here is how does the load perform in your gun? Have you just plucked the load out of the air and did not do a proper load work up you might be missing better accuracy?

    If something works for you with respect to reliability, accuracy, and safety then NO one can say much!:banghead:
     
  4. ants

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    Good choice. Keep working it.

    That's a fairly light load, good place to start. See how it works in your pistol. As noted above, it will probably leave some soot. It burns cleaner as the charge gets hotter, but if your pistol shoots best at lower charges where it's a little dirty, you just get more carbon on the patch when you clean the pistol. Big deal.

    All my pistols cycle as low as 4.0 Titegroup with either 115 or 124 grain bullets. My Glock works well in the mid ranges, maybe 4.5 to 4.7. And that's not max load yet. My 1911 in 9mm likes max load much better, it's a heavier pistol designed for heavier cartridges. It burns nice and clean in that pistol, too.

    So you've got a good starting point. Like 45acp says, start low and work up until your pistol does the talking for you.
     
  5. Lone_Gunman

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    Well... I guess i just plucked it out of the air. I was loading 9mm for the first time yesterday. I haven't had time to go to the range. I loaded 20 rounds.

    I guess what I am saying is, I am at the starting point. I wanted to know what other people thought about the starting point.
     
  6. philbo

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    My favorite 9mm plinking load is 4.4 grns of Titegroup under 115 FMJ with COL=1.155. Shot thousands over the last couple of years with good results.
     
  7. Lone_Gunman

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    What velocity did you get from 4.4 grains with 115g FMJ?
     
  8. D. Manley

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    TG isn't my favorite in 9MM but it does do very well and your load is a good one, very accurate in my guns. IIRC, Sierra's "accuracy load" under their 115 grainers is 4.2 grains.
     
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    Feels/ejects like WWB which is what I was aiming for. Never chronographed the load.
     
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    My standard 9mm load is 4.0 grains TG under a lead 125-RN slug. It shoots great, does not lead up the barrel, and I have shot thousands of them. I tried the same with 4.4 grains and found no appreciable improvement in accuracy or function.

    I load a 124-gr Speer Gold Dot over 4.7 grains of TG to get me a reasonable facsimile of the factory Speer Gold Dot SD ammo to practice with at lower cost in my CCW pistols. This load feel good and strong, no chrony so I can't speak for velocity. Shoots very well, extracts 100%.

    I did have one problem with my 4.0 TG loads, in a brand new, out of the box XD9 it had jams where the spent shell was still partially in the ejection port (Some stovepiping, some not). Once this particular gun was broken in the problem went away. With the 4.4 grain loads the problem was not there. I assume it was a new, tight gun with a strong recoil spring.
     
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    4.2 grains of Titegroup under a 115gr Perfomance Delta 9mm do the trick for me.
     
  12. marcodo

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    4.3 titegroup with 124 grain lead and 4.6 115 g fmj seems to do the trick for me.

    One of my favorites
     
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    3.4 TG under a 115FMJ keeps the sights on target out of my Glock 34.

    Dave
     
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    4.2-4.3 grains of Titegroup under a Zero 125 FMJHP at 1.125" for my CZ and XD is my load of choice - a nice, consistent 1050-75 fps range round.
     
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    4.2gr with 124gr FMJ is my competition load. It reliably makes USPSA minor and shoots nice; much less felt recoil than WWB or similar.
     
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    When you "work up" your load how do you do your approaching your max?

    I am currently shooting 4.0gr of Titegroup with 115gr FMJ. Like you guys say it does leave some soot. I would like to go higher, but I do not know what to look for when going higher.

    It does shoot with significantly less kick than a factory round, out of my XD9SC (also has FTE often (5 rounds out of 180rounds that I usually shoot per range trip)).
     
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    I shoot the same load as 1911user. Shoots good for me.
    Rusty
     
  18. Lone_Gunman

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    I got a chance to chronograph my loads:

    115g FMJ over 4.3g Titegroup ----> 1,119 FPS

    115g FMJ over 4.7g Titegroup ----> 1,192 FPS

    Both loads performed equally well, no jams, and equal accuracy. Both recipes were equally clean, and did not seem dirty to me.

    I will probably do a big run using 4.3g of Titegroup.
     
  19. RustyFN

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    Hey Creo welcome to THR.
    Rusty
     
  20. Globeguy

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    Lone Gunman, what gun are you shooting that out of?
     
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    Glock 17 was the weapon used.
     
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    I've used 3.6 gr. of Titegroup under 115 gr. Rainier plated bullets, which gave only moderate accuracy from my marginally accurate Walther P-38. Also, a few did not eject all the way, probably because the load was a little light.

    4.0 gr. of Titegroup with 115 gr. Rainier plated bullets, however, is just about perfect for a moderate load.

    4.5 gr. of Titegroup with 115 gr. Winchester FMJHB bullets is a good load also.

    I've found Titegroup to be extremely clean burning. And with the frugal charge weights and the fact that it is not a position-sensitive powder, I'm going to buy a bunch more of it.
     
  23. twinhairdryers

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    How does 4.0 grains of Titegroup compare with CCs?

    I have a very basic loading setup with a Lee single stage press that came with the CC powder cups and the red powder kit. I generally calibrate the Lee charger until it fills just where I want it to into one of the 0.5 CC Lee powder dippers, and then load from there, noting the spindle setting on the Lee powder charger. It is crude, I know but still works. My question is, how many CCs of powder is a 4.0 grain load of Titegroup?
     
  24. ants

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    0.3372549cc = 4 grains

    At least that's what it weighed on my scale, calibrated with my check weights, at the temperature and relative humidity on that day, sampled from the Lot # of the 8 pound jug that I bought, scooped with the Lee scoop that I own, calculated on the pocket calculator I have. Then again, I could be wrong.

    YMMV.
     
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    You need to buy a scale.
     
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