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Terrible Crime in Gunfree IL...

Discussion in 'Legal' started by Autolycus, Aug 18, 2006.

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  1. Autolycus

    Autolycus Member

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    http://www.dailysouthtown.com/southtown/dsindex/18-ds1.htm

    I stopped at that gas station 2 nights ago on my way to the movies!
     
  2. Aggie's Revenge

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    :fire: How the hell is it, that a man with 45 prior felonies is actually walking the streets?
     
  3. wdlsguy

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    Another good reason to check your rearview mirror from time to time.
     
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    Disgusting that milquetoasts like this are the average in modern America. Just...utterly...:barf:
    Not very bright--fits the criminal bill pretty well!
    Aggie, he's probably back on the streets because only two of the charges resulted in convictions--that's what this paragraph seems to suggest...though even if he has more than that, it's practically impossible to be on the streets with anywhere near 45 convictions...right? :uhoh:
     
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    Considering what's in high public office in Illinois, I'd guess it's plain old-fashioned professional courtesy.
     
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    45 felonies

    A officer here arrested a professional shoplifter who had been arrested 230+ times over a period of 15 years. Her rap sheet was 32 feet long!

    I still have a rap sheet for a felon who had 65 felony arrests over 20 years to include attempted murder of police,burglary and armed robbery.It is almost 10 feet long.

    People with these types of records walking around in society are common.Much more so than the general public knows.
     
  7. Autolycus

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    And yet me walking around with a gun is seen as a bad thing. I live in Orland Park, a suburb that borders this town, and drive through this town on occasion. You can literally see the neighborhood getting worse in that town and it is starting to spread.

    We need a CCW bill to be passed here in Illinois. Its only a matter of time before it happens to one of my family members. :fire:

    I wonder what kind of guns they used? Simply so I can check and see if they were banned in the Cook County AWB. Just want to see if it makes a difference.
     
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    Hicks' criminal past includes a total of 45 felony charges, court records show. In 2003, Hicks, 34, was sentenced to prison for armed robbery with a firearm. He also received a six-year term in 1994 for armed robbery.



    Even if he only had these two convictions a prior felon doing an armed robery in 2003 should not be back on the streets, at least not yet. Stuff like this goes on constantly in our wonderful state of Ill. Jim.
     
  9. PCGS65

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    What about the 3 time loser law? Don't we have it in Illinois?
    Do the anti-gun people want these guys on the streets to give them more ammo for disarming us? Cause if they locked them all up crime would drop drastically.:barf:
     
  10. Don Gwinn

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    There are only two convictions mentioned in the article. The "Three strikes and you're out" sentencing only applies to three strikes, not two. ;)
     
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    I see three mistakes. First off pulled from a big wad of cash. Second, lacking Situational Awareness. And thirdly not carrying a weapon.

    I routinely carry around $400 or more on my person. (I get paid in cash from my job) One of the first things I do is seperate my cash. I carry in two "wallets"(I've found that Binder Clips work better than any money clip), the majority of my money, drivers license, bank cards and CHL are in one pocket (typically behind my G33) The throwaway wallet has no more than $100 in it at anytime, as well as an old Drivers License (with an old address) and an old Bank Card.

    I would hope this event will prompt him to work on the last two mistakes.


    The guy was lucky. He got "honest" criminals. All they were there was for the money. The situation would have been different if upon entering and not seeing a safe in anger they decided to have "fun" with the man's wife and daughters.
     
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    Don I believe the article talks about two prison sentences being served. I was thinking with 45 felony charges he must have at least 3 convictions when 2 are known. There's definatly something wrong with our system when someone with 45 felony arrests in not in prison for life without parole.:uhoh:
     
  13. Autolycus

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    Mandirigma unfortunatley the man was not allowed to carry a weapon here in IL.

    As for the problem I see. In 1994 the criminal was sentenced to 6 years in prison. So lets assume he got out in 3 years. Then again in 2003 he was sentenced again for armed robbery. So he does another 3 years. But he can be charged with a Federal gun crime so he would get additional time and should not be out in 2006 but more like 2011. Anyone else agree?

    In all respects the man should not have been allowed to walk the streets.

    And that little girl has some cajones.
     
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    Didn't the 3 strikes law get tossed in favor of keeping judges in charge of sentencing?

    Maybe I am thinking of a federal law.
     
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    I think your right and they tossed it. I know IL has a good time system for the prisons. I am under the impression that for every good day you have you get to take one bad day off of your sentence. Not really sure how it works. Perhaps one of the LEOs on the board could explain it better.
     
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    Two Strikes!

    Zell gave us a two strikes law! :) There's no law maker better than a thinking, conservation, God fearing Democrat. Too bad Zell was the only one. :(
     
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    That area around there is going to the dumps. Last week, we were hired to do a thorough sweep of the apartment buildings over there near the Metra station. We searched every building and stopped everyone asking for ID to see if they lived there. One of the guys there, who claimed to be a gangster disciple, had threatened a security guard there. The boss had a few words with the guy, who probably stood about 6'8", 350 and the gangster backed off real quick.

    When we were patrolling the perimeter, people came out onto their balconies and asked us stupid things like, "are people selling drugs here?" Geez, you live here and you don't even know?:(
     
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    Edmond PM inbound.
     
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    That area is going downhill fast. I am in neighboring Orland and expect Orland to be like that in a few years. This is my home and I would like to keep it nice.
     
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    I wouldn't worry about that. You have golf courses as a buffer all around your town.:D
     
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