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TFL v. THR

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by TechBrute, Mar 8, 2003.

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Where do you stand on TFL v. TFR?

  1. TFL Forever!!

    26 vote(s)
    23.9%
  2. The High Road Trancends All!

    15 vote(s)
    13.8%
  3. Six one way, half dozen another.

    65 vote(s)
    59.6%
  4. What's TFL?

    2 vote(s)
    1.8%
  5. I'm as lost as Techbrute.

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    0.9%
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  1. TechBrute

    TechBrute Member

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    Hi. I'm somewhat new to THR, and not one of the TFL "elite". ;)

    I was hoping someone could explain to me why TFL shut down. I didn't give it much thought at first, but as I visit this site more and more, I notice more and more people with TFL references in their signature lines as if it's some sort of status symbol. I've also seen several posts where people reminisce about "the good ol' days of TFL" and how THR will never be like TFL.

    So, since there are so many people that think so highly of TFL, why did it shut down?

    :confused:
     
  2. bad_dad_brad

    bad_dad_brad Member

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    I had been on TFL for about 2 years when they went dormant. Rich Lucibella, the fellow that started and ran the site wanted to move on. Apparently it took a lot of his time to run it the way he saw fit. Some of the folks that helped him run TFL, decided to start a new site using the same type of software and similar format. You will see a lot of familiar TFL names on THR including the administrators.

    http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/announcement.php?s=&forumid=36

    Both sites are pretty much the same. THR has a way to go until it has such a broad base of knowledge that TFL had. But that is just a matter of time. Search TFL anytime you want. You will just about find an answer to any question regarding firearms.

    I am sure a lot of the folks that were on TFL for years can tell you more than I can about the history of TFL and how THR took over.
     
  3. Calamity Jane

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    I can't vote in this poll 'cause there's no option I'd choose. For me, there is no "versus."

    As a gathering place for gunowners, TFL was great. Notice my use of "was", past tense. THR is a promising new chapter. Notice my use of "is", present tense.

    As a source of knowledge, TFL can't be beat - but still, there is no "versus" here. TFL has four years of knowledge built up and archived, while THR has been around less than two and a half months. Give it a few more years.

    Apples and oranges. :cool:
     
  4. seeker_two

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    I consider THR as a continuation of TFL, not as competition or as a successor.

    It's all good...:cool:
     
  5. Oleg Volk

    Oleg Volk Moderator Emeritus

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    TFL is the Sire of THR. I can only hope that we don't embarrass the ancestor during our teenage years.
     
  6. Tamara

    Tamara Senior Member

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    When I go back to TFL to search for some valued tidbit or another, the blue color looks funny now. Amazing how quickly one gets used to the new digs.

    If a family moves from one house to a different one, does it become a different family? ;)
     
  7. Coronach

    Coronach Moderator Emeritus

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    TFL shut down simply becuase its owner/creator needed the time to devote to other projects. He also knew that someone would be waiting in the wings to carry the torch further.

    THR is not TFL, but, as Calamity Jane says, there is no versus. One began as the other one ended. Many of the same people are here. Similarities should not be surprising, but neither should minor differences.

    I just wish that Oleg didn't make the moderators wear little fur hats with red stars on them and refer to him as "Lenin"... but thats just me. :D

    Mike
     
  8. Oleg Volk

    Oleg Volk Moderator Emeritus

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    [​IMG] Hey, Tam looks good in one of those...and I only call one moderator "Lenin"...guess which one?
     
  9. longeyes

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    TFL was great but...

    That was then, this is now.
     
  10. 4v50 Gary

    4v50 Gary Moderator Staff Member

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    We don't call Oleg "Lenin" but "Comrade Lenin.";)
     
  11. BerettaNut92

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    THR is TFL with subdued earth tone colors.

    'TFL Elite'? Why not just get a gun that says 'Elite' and be done with it? :D
     
  12. JohnBT

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    TFL forever.

    THR is a work in progress. Nothing wrong with that.

    JT
     
  13. cratz2

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    The Firing Line was an excellent. The best of it's time in my not so humble opinion. The High Road has most of what was great about TFL and it will mature with time. Keep in mind, we've only been open a lilttle over two months. TFL was around, what four years?
     
  14. Jim March

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    TFL actually spawned a few boards in it's dying days, but Oleg's involvement in THR ensured it's "dominance".

    Going great so far :).
     
  15. 10-Ring

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    I like the analogy of moving to new digs. It's not a versus thing, its an evolutionary thing.
     
  16. sonny

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    TAMARA,
    I had the same feeling as you about the blue color.....was it always blue?
     
  17. Jason Demond

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    I can't vote in this poll, because it's not fair

    It's not fair to Oleg, or any of our other staff members.
     
  18. Art Eatman

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    TFL: Taught some, learned some, had fun.
    THR: Teaching some, learning some, having fun.

    TFL's archives are a resource. THR is an ongoing resource.

    To me, it's mostly a change in name that is now the best RKBA site on the Web...It ain't perzackly the same, but so what?

    :D, Art
     
  19. Standing Wolf

    Standing Wolf Member in memoriam

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    This forum is usually faster and more reliable.
     
  20. Gary H

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    Alexa shows that the same folks that owned TFL..own Highroad:

    Group One Enterprises, Inc
    562 East Woolbright Road Suite
    Boynton Beach, FL 33435 US
    123 123 1234
     
  21. Betty

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    Gary H - You are wrong. THR is NOT owned by Group One Enterprises, aka Rich Lucibella. Oleg will explain...
     
  22. Blackhawk

    Blackhawk Member In Memoriam

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    Calamity Jane nailed it for me too.
     
  23. Oleg Volk

    Oleg Volk Moderator Emeritus

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    When THR started, it was to be hosted on TFL's old server until we could get our own hardware worked out (we wanted to open THR quickly when we discovered TFL was closing - we didn't want to leave the members "homeless"). I registered the domain name using Rich's account...concurrently, Derek registered the same domain name with another registrar. Eventually, we went with Derek's server. Rich bought the software for us as a Christmas present. The old registration must still be out there, though it is invalid.
     
  24. Sodbuster

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    That darn Rich, always buttin' in and doin' nice things for RKBA types! :D There's way too many familiar names here for there to be any difference between the forums. The membership here is steadily increasing. I'll also defer to Calamity for expressing my thoughts. And I have one of those hats with a red star too, but you don't have to call me Trotsky or Stalin. :D
     
  25. Edward429451

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    TFL was great. I tend to feel that THR is a smidge better than TFL in that it has evolved a little. TFL could get on ones case for certain non politically correct statements even if they were germane to the issue under discussion. THR lets these statements fly as long as no personal attacks or name calling is involved. I highly appreciate and respect that. Even if its not something nice to hear or talk about, some things should be tossed around some anyway. No disrespect intended, but TFL was ever so slightly blissninny in that respect.

    Long live THR...:cool:
     
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