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That terrible Glock trigger...

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by .38 Special, Aug 31, 2022.

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  1. .38 Special

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    Okay, so I'm a revolver man, but I finally decided to join the 21st century with regard to my carry gun. I was going to switch to a 1911, but there is a high quality training center just a few miles down the road which uses Glocks - converted to lasers and C02 - exclusively, so here I am with my first Glock.

    And I get it, for the most part. It's a well-made and well thought out gun, and I'm impressed. The trigger, though, is just awful, especially for a guy brought up on the utter perfection of old S&W revolvers.

    Is there anything that can be done for the Glock trigger, while remaining safe and appropriate for an EDC gun?
     
  2. 1KPerDay

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    Different connectors can alter the break and make it feel more like a revolver. You might actually like the New York trigger.
     
  3. .38 Special

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    I may have been unclear in the OP. It is the single action pull of the Smith revolvers that I like so much; that "breaking glass" feel. I can do without a twelve pound SA pull!
     
  4. Riomouse911

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    I added an Apex trigger to a couple of Glocks and Viking Tactics trigger shoes to others. The Apex set up gave the guns that have them a much improved trigger pull.

    You can add also lighten striker springs and safety plunger springs if you choose. I use 5.0 lb striker springs from Wolff, down half a pound from the factory 5.5 lb springs. I have a passel of Glock handguns, all have have been 100 pct reliable across the board and the trigger pulls are much better than stock.

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    These changes have worked very well for me, YMMV.

    Stay safe.
     
  5. vkeith

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    Look up "25¢ Glock trigger job" on youtube. Basically, it just polishes some of the parts to be a bit smoother feeling.

    As mentioned, different connectors can also improve the trigger feel.

    There are complete aftermarket trigger assemblies that alter the geometry of the parts and can improve the trigger feel.

    Even with all the things you can do, it will never feel like a good 1911 trigger, but it can feel much better than stock.

    I purchased a Ghost Rocket connector kit complete with Glock amorer tools and installed it on my gen2 G21. It helped improve the feel but it still has some of that Glock sponginess and sproing.

    I also polished most of the internal bits with a Dremel and Flitz. That smoothed up the trigger action and helped the feel.

    Polishing just takes a bit of time, and good connecters can be had for under $20, so both are inexpensive.

    Aftermarket trigger assemblies are significantly more expensive but can have revised geometries to improve the trigger feel.

    I'm too cheap to spring for an aftermarket trigger assembly but many reviews indicate others are happy with them.
     
  6. The Glockodile

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    Not sure that's possible with the way the Glock's trigger is laid out - my terminology below's all messed up...

    ...you do need to slide the trigger bar's "ramp" across the "connector" to contribute some "load" to the firing pin.

    The need for that amount of "travel" to "load" the firing pin precludes the "breaking glass" characteristic of nice single - action triggers.

    Not sure it's physically possible to get it revolver or 1911 "crisp."

    Some comments from an old thread here.
     
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  7. Ethan Verity

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    Apex aftermarket triggers are a fine upgrade, I don't own any Glocks but put them into my M&P pistols... it's a worthwhile improvement!
     
  8. tarosean

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    No.. Not even with aftermarket.. While I am a trigger snob, a glock is a glock, take it or leave it.
     
  9. .38 Special

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    Thanks all. The Timney trigger, mentioned in the linked thread, seems promising. Does anyone here have experience with it?
     
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  10. tarosean

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    Reports are its not drop safe..

    Fine for competition not so much for carry.
     
  11. Mark_Mark

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    from my experience with Glock Triggers… yes bad, but hear me out. What made a Glock a 40 yard gun at man size… here me out, RED DOT sights. The Glock trigger need staging, with the red dot, you see all your flaws.

    go ahead and get the slide cut for optic, spend $300+ on a sight!!!
     
  12. jmr40

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    Out of the box a Glock has a 5-6 lb trigger. Out of the box most 1911's have a 5-6 lb trigger. You CAN modify the 1911 trigger to be much better and some of the ones sold as target guns come from the factory with a much better trigger. But compared to most 1911's the Glock trigger pull is quite similar.

    While the trigger is typical Glock I shoot them surprisingly well. I'd recommend a lot of dry fire practice and I think you'll soon decide you shoot them well enough in spite of the trigger.

    I do have a couple of older 1st gen Smith M&P pistols with the Apex trigger. Those guns have sub-4 lb triggers that come close to a modified 1911. But both of my M&P's have a 1911 style safety on them. I wouldn't want a trigger that light with no safety any more than I'd want a 1911 with no safety.
     
  13. JeeperCreeper

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    Have a few friends with them. They were sweet!!!!

    Bought one for myself, the reset on mine was so slow and delayed, I was twice as fast with the original Glock trigger. Read a few reports online of this happening with a few people.

    I ended up going back to OEM. The gen5 triggers are actually half decent to me at this point.
     
  14. edwardware

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    I think this may be the universe telling you that you were supposed to be training with the double-action pull all those years. Glocks are unalterably double action.

    Even a SA auto will not replicate the SA trigger of a revolver, safely. You can setup a 1911 to duplicate a S&W SA trigger, but it's not suitable for EDC use in that condition.
     
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  15. UncleEd

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    Not looking to cause thread drift but all the above comments
    convince me that the older conventional DA/SA systems of
    the Sig Sauer 220/226 models, Beretta 92 models and older
    S&W models remain superior ways to go.

    Or maybe look at the newest generation striker fires from
    such companies as Sig Sauer. The U.S. military did.
     
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    Agree. If one carries a revolver practice should be like self defense with a DA trigger; I won't comment on SA revolver trigger and SD.

    For years I spent nearly all my practice time on 7-10 yards and quick shooting, double taps - 1/3 second or less splits.
    I began shooting slow fire at 25 yards again earlier this year and typically start my shooting session by shooting 10 rounds at 25 yards.
    Then I move the target closer and start shooting as fast as I can keep the shots on target, 1/3 second splits approximately.
    IMO the gen 5 Glock trigger is better than prior generations for example, Gen 4. My 34.5 has a better trigger than my 35.4
    I'm not the best shot, but I don't suck either. These were 25 yards cold (no warm-up) free hand unsupported.
    I had not been to the range in about a month, first shots were with the 34.5 and that is all 10 rounds. I blame the trigger on that high hit with the 35.4
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    Was back at range recently, started at 25 yards unsupported slow, them moved the target closer for some quick shooting, my preference.
    That one shot just had to happen and ruin my 25 yard group with the 34.5 :(
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    Depending on your level of skill those 25 yard groups may look pretty good, or not, but they were with a stock Glock trigger.
    If they don't look good I'm going to blame my 55 year old eyes, having to wear glasses, the indoor lighting, fan blowing on my neck, ...:p
     
  17. Zerodefect

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    "Breaking glass" is the worst setup.

    - connector
    Polished guts
    Tuned striker spring
    Flush cut trigger shoe

    The Glock trigger works fine. The problem is in your head.
     
  18. kidneyboy

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    My suggestion - shoot it in its stock configuration for a while (like 1000 rounds) and reassess.

    IMO this is an excellent way to practice.
     
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  19. trackskippy

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    I agree. Its more your head than the gun.

    I have a bunch of stock Glocks and never found them to be bad, or a bad trigger in any of them, and they are comparable to most other factory triggers. Youre never going to get something like a single action S&W trigger out of one, and even if you did, it wouldnt be a safe trigger for anything but static target shooting.

    I think your problem is, youre trying to compare what you seem to know intimately, to something new you dont have experience with. You just have to change that up, and in a short bit, I think youll have a different opinion of things.

    And if your focus is in the right place while you're shooting, you wont even know the trigger is there.
     
  20. WrongHanded

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    I understand exactly what you're saying. A better trigger is.... well, better. :)

    If I recall correctly, you were considering switching to a G29 from a .357 magnum for edc. If so, you might see how the trigger on that Glock feels when you use it faster, as you would for defensive shooting. It's really what Glocks are made for after all.
     
  21. Spats McGee

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    I don't have a ton of experience with Glocks, but I will say this: My G19 had a pretty good trigger for a Glock. Operative phrase = for a Glock. It was good enough that I never put an aftermarket trigger in it. I just accepted that it was never going to be the same as my 1911's trigger. You can (from what I understand) improve the trigger with after market stuff, or different springs, but spending time with the trigger also helps.
     
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  22. jmorris

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    Just start shooting your revolvers DA and the Glock will feel better in no time. :)
     
  23. Rule3

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    Practice a lot with a manual staple gun and soon your Glock trigger will feel normal.:)

    Glocks are so popular like ARs as you can change out every single part on them!
    Start with a complete trigger!

    No I don't hate Glock, I have a few they are what they are.
     
  24. Slamfire

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    Looks like there are are pins, linkages, and sliding surfaces. I don't see how a Glock can be made to have as good a trigger as the single stage on a revolver.


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  25. Rule3

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    Other striker fired guns have much better factory triggers.
    Glock is/was intended as a duty weapon. They work , all the time.
    As mentioned a change of the disconnector and a spring. makes a big difference.

    Heck you can even make it worse with a NY 1 or NY2 trigger drop in. When first introduced LEOs used to revolver couldn't get used to the striker fire.
     
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