That terrible Glock trigger...

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  1. JR24

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    Not a fun answer, but a few thousand rounds and a lot of dry fire and you won’t notice anymore.

    All the special triggers aren’t going to get you a good SA pull on a Glock.

    Bite the bullet and learn to love the trigger.
     
  2. JR24

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    Only thing I typically do to a Glock is add different sights, but I do that with just about all guns since very few come stock with front sites that work for my colorblind eyes.

    Possibly new sights and ammo is all Glocks need in my book.
     
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    Any other company will do the same thing, but you don't have to send Glocks back, they are Perfection.:)
    Actually out of the gazillions of them made they do have a good track record.
     
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  4. Rule3

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    The Kahr trigger(out of the box) is indeed better than Glocks but their reliability is not.

    My PM 9 went back several times, Still the best actual in the pocket carry 9mm. IMHO It can be carried in regular shorts (Docker type) rather than big cargo shorts
    My PM 45 I should have learned and sold that.
     
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    Gen 4 and 5 guns are not "approved" for sale here in California. Ditto for 11+ round magazines. That's one of the reasons I'm using a 10 round gen 3 gun.
     
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    I started off with 1911's, Hipowers, classic S&W revolvers, etc.
    I didn't try a Glock until later in life. Mine are Gen3, except for a police surplus Gen4 G22.
    I find I like the stock trigger just fine, and shoot them well .
    When I got my G17, I did put a Ghost connector in, just because. At this point, I wish I'd left it stock. Will probably put the OEM connector back in.
     
  7. Mike J

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    I wouldn't carry a Glock with a trigger as light as the SA trigger on a revolver. A guy I used to hunt with had a G-23. He let me shoot it a couple of times. The first time I shot it I liked it. I actually shot a better group with it than I did with the XD-40 I carried at the time & had thousands of rounds through. The second time I shot it was after he had someone do a trigger job. It was too light for carry in my opinion. I wouldn't carry a gun that does not have an external safety with that light of a trigger. It was fun watching water bottles explode when I thought about pulling the trigger but that is not the primary purpose of a G-23 in my mind.

    I agree with JR24. You should spend some time working on dry fire drills & learn trigger control. When I first started carrying the only semi-auto pistol I owned was Ruger P94 with a DA/SA trigger. I spent about 5 minutes a night for a long time balancing a dime on the front sight learning the two triggers on that pistol.
    The worst trigger I ever had on a pistol was a Kel-Tec P-11 it had about a 8.5 or 9 pound trigger. That wouldn't have been so bad if it was smooth. It was the opposite of smooth. It was long and catchy like dragging a bag of sand down a gravel road. Once I learned the trigger that little pistol actually shot really well though.
    I believe you have 2 choices you can do the work & learn the trigger or try to find a similar semi-auto that has a trigger more to your liking. I would just do the work & learn the trigger.
     
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    The bonus is, I’ve found if you really work on a “bad” trigger and make it work, “good” trigger control is also improved, as long as you are sticking with the fundamentals.
     
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    I agree with this very much. I learned how to shoot with an H&R 999, which had a stout SA trigger, and I found the same thing. Once I learned to shoot decently with it, almost anything else was easy. Or had a really atrocious trigger.
     
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    You can change things to improve it, but it's never going to be anything like the SA pull on an old S&W. Come to think of it, even a 1911 is not going to have that kind of pull; it wouldn't be considered combat-safe.

    If you want a modern, striker-fired pistol with a decent trigger pull, look at Walthers and open your wallet.

    Any of the S&W M&P 2.0 pistols has a much nicer trigger than a Glock, and there are parts to make them even better. They're much more reasonable than Walthers, too.
     
  11. JohnB-40

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    I changed the trigger (with stock trigger bar) on my G48 with a Vickers Tactical Carry Trigger. With it,I have a much more "comfortable" trigger,with a flat face instead of the Glock's strangely shaped one. It has the same trigger pull weight and retains the stock safety features. It has turned a nice pistol into a very nice pistol.
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    Hybrid Ranger Trigger:

    https://rangerproofswag.com/product/hybrid-ranger/

    I am a single action semi-auto snob and I love this trigger.

    Note this is the trigger only - I kept all other factory parts in my Glock and it is still amazing.

    -Stan
     
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    just wait for the Fun Switch Glock Slide!!!! So getting one

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    Like the .30/30 thread in the Rifle Country, after four pages we have probably hit on all the key points. I will just throw in my perspective on Glock triggers as someone who started shooting in the early 90's.

    Back then we had few choices. Colt 1911's were troublesome and often need a trip to the gunsmith before it would function. Beretta 92's and SIG 226's were the king of the hill but even back then were several hundred dollars above similar pistols. Smith and Wesson 3rd Gens were out, but did not seem to take hold in my area outside of a policeman's holster.

    That left the Ruger P-85, Browning Hi-Power, some Walthers (more expensive than SIG for the most part), HK (still more of an exotic firearm), STAR, FIE, surplus, and the new weird plastic gun from Glock (I am sure I missed some others).

    Being a first time semi-auto buyer and new to the 9mm, it really boiled down to the Beretta, SIG, Ruger, and Glock. The others were cool, but hard to get accoutrements, such as holsters, magazines, and sights. Being in college and thus poor (we paid our own debt back then), I really wanted a Beretta or the SIG, but they were just too much. I looked really hard at the Ruger but it just did not do it. Then came a look at the Glock. On my first trip to the store I checked the gun for clear, pulled the trigger on the Glock, heard the punny snap for the striker, couldn't pull the trigger again without manipulating the slide, put it down and walked away.

    I went back home did some math and figured it would just take too long to pay off a Beretta or a SIG so I went back for a Ruger. A different salesman again steered me towards the Glock. he explained how it worked, explained the advantages and then showed me the sale price. I bought my first Glock for 280 dollars. Less than half of a SIG. I was able to leave with the gun that day and still had some money to buy ammo. I guess that is a long winded way to tell you how I got started with Glocks. Since then I have tried all different types of pistols from 1911's to Styer GB's and always settled back into Glocks.

    Once Glock became my gun, I then moved into the parts game. I changed everything in hot pursuit of the perfect pistol. I found that some parts helped, others did not, and some made the gun unsafe. The more I shot my Glocks the more I became familiar with the trigger, the more I liked it. It is not glass rod, it does not have a clean break, and it most certainly is not the lightest of triggers, but it is simple and works.

    About five years ago I started to remove all the doo-dads from my Glocks and go back to a mostly stock pistol. This included the trigger. I learned how to shoot the stock trigger well. I also discovered that increasing my hand strength helped more to better my shooting than all the "improvements" I made to my Glock. I have worn out a few Captains of Crunch strengtheners to get here. I do still polish my internals but leave everything else pretty much stock. It is not a perfect trigger but it works.

    I realize that the Glock is not for all. I have spent about 30 years shooting them, so I am going to ride it out to the end with Glocks. I do enjoy shooting other handguns but don't feel like trying to undo 30 years of muscle memory at this point in my life.

    If you are just now coming to the Glock game, you are coming at a good time. the Generation 5 trigger is better than most previous iterations. It will never be as good as the trigger on your 1911 custom gun, however if you stick with it you can learn to shoot it well.

    As some others have said much more succinctly, the more you shoot Glocks, the more you learn to understand and appreciate the trigger.

    Merle teaches us that, "If you don't love it, leave it" but be sure to give the Glock some time before you do. I am certainly glad I gave Glocks a second look. I can't imagine trying to write this much about a Ruger P-85. The longer you shoot it, the more apt you are to realize that it is not all that bad.

    EDIT TO ADD: Pictures of my first Glock. I still have it and it still shoots great! I gave it some TLC today. I still have the black internals and the upgrade ticket from Glock.

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  15. The Kingfish

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    Wolf makes a modified trigger housing with an adjustable over-travel screw. I removed all of the over-travel and it took the trigger break on my G35 from a mushy, reverberating "BOING" to a short crisp 4.5lb break.

    Combined with a polished OEM minus connector, I consider it better than my apexed M&P compact.
     
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    I hate to think how long you waited and how much you spent to get C&S to tune your Kahr only to damn it with faint praise. Why do you carry it if it's a compromise?
     
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    Yeah, don’t remember how long it was but it was definitely a pretty penny. But just because it was expensive doesn’t mean I’m delusional about it.


    The better question is what gun can I carry that isn’t a compromise? Pretty sure that doesn’t exist.
     
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    I'm very confident that you went in eyes-wide-open. My perspective is different in that I'm ok with the triggers in my striker-fired pistols, so it doesn't feel like a compromise to carry them. Cheers.
     
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    I settled on Overwatch Precision triggers for my Gen 3 G29 and Gen 4 G40. I tried new shoes, springs, connectors, polishing, etc previously with less than great results... The Overwatch trigger is amazing. Almost zero take up, crisp break, short reset. My single stack Glocks just got the polished trigger bar and connector, they feel fine for what they are. The Glock Gen 5 trigger on my 19X only got a Vickers flat face trigger shoe, I like the Gen5 trigger best for a factory Glock trigger.
     
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    I am still happy I sold my 2 Glocks recently and used the funds to buy another 1911, a very nice Springfield Range Officer, and still had enough money left over to put another Colt competition model on layaway.

    I shot Glocks almost exclusively for 5 years and just could not learn to like them. Your mileage may vary.
     
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    "Like" probably will be too much to ask. I want to be proficient with them. "Like" will continue to be reserved for walnut and blued steel, I suspect.
     
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    I certainly wish you the best of luck.
     
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    Perhaps consider something like an ITarget pro, and lots of dry fire. You’ll get there and possibly even learn to kinda appreciate the trigger.

    This from a former 1911 trigger snob and bonified Glock hater.
     
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  24. .38 Special

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    This afternoon the mailman delivered my Umarex laser trainer replica of the Glock 17. The trigger is far better than the one on my 29. :scrutiny::D

    When all the bits get returned from the gunsmith - I am having the slide cut for a red dot - I will have to try different connectors, along with the "25 cent trigger job". It's been a few years since I last shot any Glocks, so I don't perfectly recall those triggers, but I suspect that this one is worse than average...
     
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    So much drama with S&W users and their trigger fingers. The Gen3 trigger is fine. Do you guys use your revolvers single action exclusively? For decades? Curious.

    If I couldn't adapt to a Glock trigger I wouldn't start glopping on un-tested parts to compensate for my trigger finger issues. Unless I was making a range toy. For SD/HD I stick with factory engineered guns made on a quality manufacturing facility with iso standards. Or you can stake your life on low volume, garage manufacturing with no traceability or quality standards.

    OP it's time to put your big-boy pants on and adapt like so many millions of shooters have already......
     
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