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The 1911 is still being used!

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by Texas10mm, Dec 3, 2018.

  1. Texas10mm

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  2. FL-NC

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    Made locally. Part of this decision may have been from a practical standpoint, regarding things like eliminating having to outsource logistical concerns out-of-country, as well as giving an economic stimulus of sorts to a Filipino-owned business.
     
  3. ATLDave

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    Yep. Those Filipinos still crank out the 1911's!
     
  4. Trey Veston

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    Fitting that they chose the 1911 when they still drive around in these...

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  5. rpenmanparker

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    I have one (1911 from the Phillippines) coming soon...I think. It has been stuck in the post office on the way to my FFL for almost two weeks. It appears to be right here in town, but the tracking information won't change. Just keeps saying it is on its way to the next destination. BS. I am going to have to ask the store to send another one by FedEx or UPS if it doesn't show some movement by tomorrow.
     
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    This one was assembled in the Phillipines. Round for round, side by side, it did better than my buddy's new Kimber...not one hiccup since I switched to Mc Cormick mags...
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  7. Armored farmer

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    Here's my Philippine made 1911. Flawless after i replaced the spring.

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  8. cw308

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    Aren't RIA 1911's made in the Philippines , nothing wrong with them .
     
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  9. Dibbs

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    IMO, it's a solid decision, to procure a solid gun. The RIAs I've shot are well made, and run well.
    Seems like a financially responsible decision to keep the manufacturing contract in country, as well.
     
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  10. C0untZer0

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    The M1911 is still used by quite a few countries, including South Korea and North Korea, Taiwan, and Thailand.
     
  11. Zerodefect

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    There's still a few people in the military with 1911's. When you get to use anything you want. If this is a pic of a Kimber, then it doesn't count.
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  12. ArchAngelCD

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    We would still be using the 1911 in 45 Auto if it weren't for NATO. It was a compromise, they agreed to use the .308 (7.62x51mm) so we had to agree to used the 9mm. Our military are still using the 1911 in some cases even though it's not the standard issue.
     
  13. rpenmanparker

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    1911 could easily have been updated to double stack solving one main issue. Same for modification of the feed ramp to reliably chanber all shapes of bullets. As for the fear of carrying in condition 1, that is just foolishness. It has never had a basis in reality. Substituting pistols with no external safety is no improvement. We got bamboozled.
     
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  14. Spats McGee

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    The military buying 50K quality firearms built locally? There are certainly worse decisions that could have been made.
     
  15. NIGHTLORD40K

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    Ehhhhh....the P320 is a better choice for the US military if we are switching from low-intensity, anti-terror warfare to planning for large scale open war with China and/or Russia (which is what all the branches are saying with respect to acquisitions)- cheap, disposable, easy to use (well enough anyway).....did I mention it is cheap? At least if it sees more widespread issue than the M9, like the Army is saying, that will be a good thing.
     
  16. rpenmanparker

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    A always forget to mention that when I advocate for the 1911, I mean updated to 9mm. There is no reason the 1911 could not also be translated to a polymer frame.
     
  17. Spats McGee

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    I believe that it has been.
     
  18. tarosean

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    In addition, STI also has single stack and double stack 1911's in poly too.
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  19. tarosean

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    You do realize that the 9mm 1911 was first produced in 1949?
     
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  20. LRDGCO

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    Cannot fault my RI 1911 in any way. As a value for money proposition, it is outstanding and, most importantly, it functions with every profile bullet I have fed it, not something I can say about by 1942 USGI.

    While it appears that the 45ACP is too much to handle for some sensitive souls this side of the Pacific, glad to see that Philippine Forces personnel can do so.
     
  21. rpenmanparker

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    Sure. I just mean updated as the choice for military and LE applications. Updated in people’s minds.
     
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    So for a rifle cartridge decision agreed to in 1957 we agreed to switch to 9sillymeter in 1982? BTW there were still National Guard units using the .30-06 in 1973 (M1 Rifle, BAR, and M1919 A4 and A6 ) and I have to wonder how long the 1911A1 lasted in the National Guard as well. BTW upon noticing crates of srtipper clip loaded .30-06 in a US Army Ammo Bunker at Ft. Sill I asked what it was for and was told some Guard Units still had M1903A4s in their Infantry battalion sniper sections, go figure. In 1982 most US Infantry Battalion Sniper sections were armed with M1Ds in .30-06 and that it what was used at the school at Permasans, that in the year we adopted the 9 sillymeter for our handgun round. I have often wondered how many (and how long) Artillerymen and tankers wore a Barfetta on their chest while their drivers(wearing the same) sat next to a .45 ACP M3A1 greasegun.

    My understanding is that when the Rangers went in at Grenada they still had M1911A1 pistols but that their M67 90-mm recoilless ( Ranger Assault Gun they called them, depending on them for breeching as well as AT work) folks had MP5s strapped to their AT rifles....and that after action reports lead to the trashing of the MP5s partially because of failures to stop at 100 meters or more.

    Perhaps you meant the adoption of 5.56 as NATO Standard

    Actually my first letter to a sitting president was in opposition to the switch away from .45ACP and I was a serving officer at the time.

    The biggest issue with the 1911A1 was ifs heavy load of preconceived notions folks carried about for it.

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  24. kBob

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    Both the Commander and lightweight Commander were made originally for Army testing of 9x19mm handguns in competition with the S&W M39 also developed for those tests. While the Berretta was being looked at the Army looked at a kit to modify existing M1911A1s to 9mm single stacks. new slide and barrel group, magazines and new ejector

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  25. Drail

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    So they have apparently figured out that ol military industrial complex thing huh????? "Let's keep Phillippine dollars in the Phillippines!" Good for them......
     
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