The .22 LR Sniper.

[Zorro]

Pretty sure this was used in Urban combat in in the Serbian Croatian War.

Mainly because of being as silent as possible.

Any other credible sources of this except my USAFE in Brief to the country?

 

[hatchetbearer]

http://world.guns.ru/sniper/sn57-e.htm
this? only .22lr sniper i know of. would love to own one.

 

[skidooman603]

Hatchet...That is a friggen cool .22

 

[SaxonPig]

Can't imagine police using it as it lacks immediate incapacitation capabilities.

As a military weapon it might have merit if the purpose is to wound enemy soldiers and take them out of the fight. Drop a 22 solid into a man's chest and he will likely survive but he's out of action while continuing to burn resources such as food, water, medical attention... not to mention two men to carry him to the aid station.

As a commander I would rather wound an enemy soldier than kill him. The wounded are far more costly to the enemy than are those KIA.

 

[19-3Ben]

The wounded are far more costly to the enemy than are those KIA.

That's assuming you are up against an enemy that values human life enough to care for their wounded rather than abandoning them as we have seen sometimes.

 

[TargetTerror]

I believe Israel uses 22lr rifles for various tasks as well. Its obviously a very specific tool, for very specific applications. But I can see it shining in those situations.

 

[Rugerforme]

I like that. I love the .22 LR it is very capable at 100 yards, maybe I should black out my target rifle

That group just above the scope (upper right) was shot at 100 yards hard to see but that is a quarter in the pictres for size.

 

[jpwilly]

Rugerforme is that an integrated suppressor on your rifle? Who makes them?

 

[sumpnz]

Snipers in Sarajevo were known to take neck shots with .22lr rifles. I've heard that Northern Ireland saw similar uses at times. Within 100 yards or so it's quite deadly. Especially if you use 60gr bullets. They are known to tumble after impact significantly, and in a highly vascularized area like the neck that will cause pretty rapid exsanguination.

Use a bolt action rifle and subsonic ammo and you're unlikely to be detected if you shoot from inside a (friendly) building even without a suppressor. Add a suppressor and working the bolt will make more noise than the shot.

 

[Rugerforme]

Nope that's the Volquartsen Muzzleweighted Barrel.
link to barrel

 

[trol79]

I heard that finnish snipers used them effectivly in finish/russian war, and still rely on them.

 

[praharin]

A fellow on snipershide.com built a Remington 40X 22lr into a practice precision rifle. Then he dropped it into a AICS stock. He was having good results at 200 yards as I recall.

 

[Maverick223]

this? only .22lr sniper i know of. would love to own one.

Looks just like the Izhmash (AKA: Saiga) toggle lock rimfire rifle...the Sobol. Don't kno how easy they are to aquire, but I have considered getting one myself.

 

[Ditch-Tiger]

TargetTerror, You are correct. Israel uses integrally surpressed Ruger 77/22's & 10/22's to "dispatch" guard dogs.

Here's a link to some pics

http://www.ruger1022.com/docs/israeli_sniper.htm

 

[Big_E]

RAA imports rifles very similar to that SV-99. After seeing Nutnfancy's youtube video of the SHOT show, I really want one now, maybe it's because of how cool the action works.

Then again, there are so many firearms that I want, that I don't have funds or space for all of them yet...

 

[Maverick223]

RAA imports rifles very similar to that SV-99.

4hrs. too late...see post 13.

 

[RumRunner]

they make L96's in 22LR

 

[Maverick223]

they make L96's in 22LR

Reference? I won't say that one doesn't exist, but I have never seen nor heard of one.

 

[Girodin]

Hatchet...That is a friggen cool .22

This is would get you close. It is from the same factory.

http://www.raacfirearms.com/Biathlon_7-2.htm


I've been thinking about getting one. The few reports I've seen showed good accuracy. It runs $350 from what I can gather thus far.

 

[elmerfudd]

Especially if you use 60gr bullets. They are known to tumble after impact significantly, and in a highly vascularized area like the neck that will cause pretty rapid exsanguination.

The problem with 60 grain .22 bullets is that they tend to tumble BEFORE impact. Out to about 25 yards they do OK, but at 50 they keyhole and accuracy suffers, (but not as badly as you would think). What's really needed to shoot them accurately is a .22 LR barrel with a tighter twist. It's a pity too, because judging by their accuracy at 25 yards they're otherwise pretty decent bullets.

 

[sumpnz]

The problem with 60 grain .22 bullets is that they tend to tumble BEFORE impact. Out to about 25 yards they do OK, but at 50 they keyhole and accuracy suffers, (but not as badly as you would think). What's really needed to shoot them accurately is a .22 LR barrel with a tighter twist. It's a pity too, because judging by their accuracy at 25 yards they're otherwise pretty decent bullets.

Depends on the gun. Having read a number of threads on here over the years about the Aguila SSS rounds it sounds like some guns, even with a standard 16" twist will shoot them quite well out to 100 yards (sometimes more), and some won't shoot them worth squat even at 25 yards.

That said, yes a tighter twist rate would make them consistently a lot more accurate across different guns. The people that seem to do best with them have AR's with the rimfire adapter or a custom barrel on whatever their favorite .22 happens to be and 9-12" twists.

 

[Girodin]

What's really needed to shoot them accurately is a .22 LR barrel with a tighter twist.

I wonder if some one has tried them out of an AR with a 22lr conversion kit

 

[Maverick223]

I wonder if some one has tried them out of an AR with a 22lr conversion kit

I'm sure they have as that is what it was originally designed for (due to the typical faster twist).

 

[C-grunt]

I had a friend in high school who was from Kosovo. His family got out during the war. He was 10 years old when he shot in the leg by a sniper using a .22. He said it was very common over there at that time.

 

[AStone]

Sarajevo was under siege for 4 years,
the longest in modern history.

That experience proved that .22 may not always kill,
but it will ruin a lot of days for a long time.

Personally, I'd far rather use mine for sniping squirrels.