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The 270 has to be worthless!

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by 50 cal, May 15, 2013.

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  1. Ranger Roberts
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    I hunt with my 270. It's a great deer gun! It's the caliber I shoot the least of though. I sight in at the beginning of the season and if all goes as planned I fire 3 to 5 shots during the season. Then again I hunt with my 30.06 and 30-30 as well and I target shoot with them a lot.
     
  2. CoRoMo

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    Owner of several .270 rifles here. The first firearm I ever purchased was a .270 rifle, and the most recent rifle I purchased was also.

    And I've never bought a single solitary box of factory ammo.

    Ever.

    I did though, run one box of Winchester Power Points through a couple of those rifles.

    But I had little choice; the dealer gave me that box of ammo when I bought one of the rifles. Rather than pull the bullets, I just emptied the brass the fun way.

    Although .270 rifles are aplenty in my safes, and I still aim to buy at least one more (as always), I'm not a customer in the market realm of .270 Winchester ammo.
     
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  3. J-Bar

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    One shot on paper to verify the point of impact, one shot kill on the deer.

    Using two shots a year, a box of ammo lasts a while!!
     
  4. whetrock

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    I too have noticed this phenomenon. I got to thinking that maybe these slightly off beat cartridges (the .270 is incredibly common around here though, and among the most popular rifle cartridges) that they have proven to be actually, more available in these panics than more common cartridges. Same with some, metric, milsurp ammo like 7.62*54 is still cheap and available. Maybe it's a good idea to have some firearms chambered for some non- mainstream rounds. I mean .270 is incredibly popular and common, but not nearly as much as say, .308 or .223.
     
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    Its funny this thread appeared, I happened to be looking at a private-sale of a Model 70
    in .270 with a stainless, heavy varmint barrel for a reasonable price
    The only thing that's keeping me from snatching it up is the laminate stock, and
    my lack of knowledge of the ballistics/history of the .270
    So, it basically is a 30-06 cartridge necked-down ?
    This seller is pushing it as a "coyote" gun ,, seems like it would work for coyotes IF
    you didn't care what condition the pelt came back in..
     
  6. TenDriver

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    A .270 will do most everything a .30-06 will do. I've never shot a coyote with mine but the deer I've killed with it didn't have much hide damage. It's a fast, flat shooting bullet that does a lot of internal damage. The exit wounds aren't much bigger than the entrance.

    You can always find a wood stock later I suppose.
     
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    Fella's;

    I'm on the side of the detractors. The various 7mm's have better bullet selection, etc, etc.. It's nothing more thatn the red-headed stepchild of the ought-6, etc. etc. The damm thing woulda died a long time ago if it weren't for all the hype O'Conner heaped on it., etc, etc. And there's several rounds in the immediate vicinity that do a better job: .280 Rem, 6.5 Swede just to name a couple that haven't had the O'Conner halo hung on 'em.

    Personally, I've rebarreled guns rather than keep it a .270.

    900F
     
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    Same story in last 3 AZ Wal Marts I've entered

    Empty cases, one product remains: .270

    I already plan on picking up a #1 in .270 so it's nice to see others in the thread loving theirs
     
  9. 22-rimfire

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    I think you need to find yourself a 270 :D

    They have a little too much bark for protection and the ammunition is too large for a survival gun unless you happen to have it with you when you need to "survive". In which case, you'd probably be lucky to have 20 rounds with you.
     
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    I love my .270. Of course, it is really a 6.8SPC. ;)
     
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    AFAIK, the 270 is not based on the 30-06, its based on the .30-03 Springfield. 30-06 necked down is actually to short to make .270 Win brass to spec.
     
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    ^^^correct. The 30-03 and .270win have a longer shoulder than the 30-06. 30-06 can be fired in a 30-03 but there is too much throat. Same if 30-06 is necked down to .270, but it will fire form to the correct dimensions.
     
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    That's what I thought as well. Found two different articles that said the parent case was the -06 though.

    You're absolutely right about the .06 being too short to neck down. I've had 270 cases in my stack of .06's while sizing. Most of the time the only way I knew was extra force on the ram required to expand the neck. Then I have to start trimming.....

    Just curious... When it comes to hunting an open field, how does a 280 or 6.5 Swede perform any better than a 270? Dead is dead....

    With rolling my own I can load anything from 100 gr up to 150 and push it at 3000 fps for the most part if I choose. Sorry, but poo poo-ing any caliber as better or worse when comparing most common hunting rifle cartridges is garbage. For that matter, we only need 4 offerings in this country. .22LR, .223, .30-06 and .300 Win Mag. That combo would take any game in North America.
     
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    Heresy! :D The 7mm's kick harder.

    The 6.5 Swede is outstanding though.
     
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    Unless you shoot your 270/30-06/280/7mm/308 for varmints or you are really hung up on accuracy and ballistics, I see little reason to reload them unless you just want to. But many do. 270 win is left on the shelf because I suspect that most people keep a couple boxes on hand and have little reason to really stock up in quantity.

    During the last ammunition shortage, there was usually a good supply of 30-30 in stores. Not this time. Guess people view it as a "survival" caliber now.

    Variety is the spice of life. I would go a little larger than 300 win mag. for that last caliber choice, and change #3 to 270. :D
     
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    The .270 Win is a dandy round for "the lil lady". :evil: Yup. You fellas thinking of gettin' a .270 Win, naw! Man-up an' get a bigger round. Leave those .270 Wins on the shelf for me. (pause) That didn't sound right did it?!

    It has been an interesting experience to see significant amounts of ammo available in .243, .25-06, .270, 7mmRM, .300WM and of course .30-06. As already stated, bird shot. I agree that most people who shoot a .270 Win probably do handloads. I try to keep some factory Hornady SuperFormance 130 grain SSTs on hand, and abundant reloading supplies for it. It puts the hurt on everything from varmints to ram, deer and boar.

    .270 Win ... the original 7mm-06. :eek:

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    At least owners of 270's know they can still get some range time in while those looking for .223, 308 & 30.06 spend their early morning hours in Walmart parking lot playing the ammo lottery.
     
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    I've got half a dozen rifles chambered in .270

    I only ever use one for hunting (it's the only rifle I hunt anything with), but sometimes I bring other folks with me that don't have their own rifles, or only have silly stuff like .223s that aren't particularly suitable for hunting larger game animals. That's where the other ones come in.

    It's one of my favorite catridges, being powerful and mild on the recoil even in a 6lb gun. Also appears to be panic-resistant, as well.
     
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    Any of you Guys remember the late,great, Jack O'Conner?
    Need I say more?
     
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    It does not kick hard enough, no high capacity firearms chambered for it.

    Can't see any reason for it at all....


    Except for the part where it works. :D
     
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    I disagree. The .270 most certainly not in the same class as the 5.56mm. The .270 is solidly in the deer/elk class and is more comprarable to the .308, .30-06, etc.

    Was I the only one to recognize this as sarcasm? :rolleyes:

    Yeah, seems like an odd set up and certainly would not be my first choice for coyote. Personally, I would be looking at .223, .243, or if you need to put your coyotes down at extreme range maybe one of the .25 cals.
     
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    I agree with that in capability. Clearly the .270 is closer to a 30-06 than a .223. But not in actual field use. How many deer are shot every year compared to elk in the US(I would love to know the answer to that actually if anyone has any idea where to find it.) The .270 is used far more for deer than for elk. That is why I question the long term survival, at least at current usage, of the cartridge.
     
  23. mdauben

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    Yes, but you could say the same about the .308, the .30-06, and probably even the 7mm and .300 mags. Is just down to numbers. There are probably at least 100 deer shot in the US for every 1 elk.

    Personally, I prefer it over many of the other choices in the same class, but I will freely admit I'm "old school". I don't think the .270 is going to die any time soon, but its probably already passed its hey day and been eclipsed as a hunting round by newer, more trendy cartridges like like the short and super-short magnums.
     
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    The yahoo answer link was just a few people throwing around opinions. There wasn't really anything scientific about it.
     
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