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The 336 Club

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by AStone, Feb 24, 2007.

  1. Sheepdog1968

    Sheepdog1968 Senior Member

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    Has anyone taken their's out to hunt deer yet this season? I plan to take mine out soon. I can't wait.
     
  2. AStone

    AStone Senior Member

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    Hammerson, glad you are finding interest here. Thanks for joining in.

    As for your pics, I remember seeing your post when it first went up, but I think it was missing pics even then.
     
  3. AStone

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    Interesting thread over here on short-barreled .30-30's.
     
  4. fixr

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    What would you do?

    One of my customers recently gave me a 1950 model 336A .35 Rem with a 24" barrel. The front bead sight is bent and the receiver looks like this. IMG_20101006_100206.jpg I was thinking of adding some type of scout scope and mount that I could do by myself with limited gun smithing skills and tools. Any other ideas would be appreciated.
     
  5. AStone

    AStone Senior Member

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    Welcome to the club, fixr, and to THR.

    Neat project. I'll let others with more technical knowledge make suggestions.

    Good luck with it, and please keep us posted about what you do.
     
  6. Sheepdog1968

    Sheepdog1968 Senior Member

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    I just finished a week of deer hunting. The vast majority of time I took out the 30-30. It was a lot of fun. I really like my lever action. We didn't get a deer but we had many good memories of the hunt and came close. We will have stories to tell over future camp fires. If all goes well, I might be able to make it out one more weekend before the season is over. My future father in law said it reminded him of a Red Ryder BB gun (it's got a 16.75" barrel). That put a smile of my face.
     
  7. AStone

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    That 16.75" barrel appeals. In the other thread, I put a link to Brockman, who shortened it.
     
  8. Abel

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    Fixer, you have an old 336A. It is a fairly sought after version of the 336, but someone ruined the waffle top engraving with the drill & tap job....but the 24" barrel offers the best velocity out of a 336. I would hide the butcher job with a non-scout, regular base on top of the reciever with a regular scope.
     
  9. pls1911

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    I have several early pre micro groove 336As and they are all extremely good shooters.
    Replace the front sight with a Marbles replacement from Brownells, either a brass of ivory bead. While you can't undo to hatchet job on the receiver,you can spot blue ( oxpho blue, again from Brownel's). I'd highly recomend the addition of a vintage lyman or redfield peep sight, as your receiver should already be tapped on the side to mount these sights. A new Williams FP will do as well. The extra sight radius and small aperture makes up for a lot of older eyes.
    With a gentle refinish on the stocks, (steel wool only, no sandpaper) a few coats of hand rubbed tung oil, and you'll have a beautiful shooter to be proud of, one you're grand son would be proud of!
    Everyone wants one after they've shot mine with cast bullets and seen the body stack of pigs!
     
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  10. ForumSurfer

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    I once had a 336, then it sat in a gun sock for several years after I quit deer hunting or shooting rifles in general.

    Then the AR bug bit me. I shot a couple hundred round through a buddy’s m4gery and thought it was just a blast. I assembled a fairly decent light weight build with an eotech. 3oo rounds later, I decided I didn’t like it. The cool factor wears off really fast, and then it just looks nice in the safe. :(


    Then I thought to myself, “Stupid!? Why did you sell that dang 336?! Do you remember how fun that was?”:banghead:

    So I’m in the market again. I really know bo-diddly about 336’s despite having owned one. I really want one with Lyman sights, now. I just prefer iron sights despite my vision deteriorating. Part of me also wants a scoped option. I was looking at the xs rail that allow the use of lyman sights. Now my questions:


    1. Is that a good option with return to zero mounts for the scope? (I really don't like the looks of a huge picatinny rail on top of that beautiful rifle...but if it works, it is what it is)
    2. Or am I just better off getting 2 336’s, one dedicated for a scope and the other dedicated for iron sights?
    3. Or is there some sort of see through mount that still allows for a good cheekweld?

    Thanks in advance and sorry for all the questions…

    Keep in mind that for now it is simply a target rifle used for fun and maybe the occasional coyote that becomes a nuisance. I may get back into hunting, but we'll see about that.
     
  11. JustsayMo

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    Hey ForumSurfer:
    1- I had the Leupold quick release rings and it would return to zero within 1 or 2 MOA.
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    2- "One is none, two is one." ;)

    3- Some like see through scope mounts. They are inexpensive so it might be worth giving them a test.

    For real long range work I prefer tangs sights.
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    My first 1,000 yard hit on a 20" wide x 32" long Dinger.

    Here's some video of my friend hitting it offhand.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HO6ihrcukcc
     
  12. ForumSurfer

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    Thanks for the advice, JustSayMo. I think I really like the "one is none, two is one" bit. That really fits into my line of reasoning. :)
     
  13. AStone

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    Q: What does a 1,000 yard hit on a 20" wide x 32" long dinger sound like?

    A: TANG!
     
  14. JustsayMo

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    Tang!

    Nem, you are so right - Tang.

    I must admit I've become a bit of a long range addict and my FAVORITE rifle to do it with is a Marlin 336. Doing it with a scoped 30 caliber bolt gun is easier but the satisfaction of ringing a dinger at over a half mile with an iron sighted levergun is WAY more fun. This is especially true when using calibers that have been around for more than 100 YEARS. It makes me question if there really have been any truly big firearm advances since smokeless powder was invented - with the exception of John Moses Browning's offerings. Certainly there have been incremental advances but honestly what can a fella do now that a skilled fella back then couldn't do. Billy Dixon made a shot at over a MILE without a scope.

    How high could have men like John Moses Browning, James Marlin, Oliver Winchester and Sam Colt have raised the bar had they had access to today's technologies?
     
  15. Sheepdog1968

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    Jeff Cooper asked the same question in his Gunsite Gossip writings. I don't remember the specific answer but I generall recall that he considered there to be very little progress on rifles in the last 300 years.
     
  16. WBoss

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    Ammo

    Hey guys, just decided to comment on the thread and post some info for anyone new to the 336 world..I've been down here at Ft. Benning for the last couple of months and decide to get a brush gun to take advantage of the hunting..I left my hunting rifles at home in WA, so I went an got a 336C.. When I worked the action on my new brand new rifle, I swore I could feel the metal shavings grinding, it was like it was full of sand. Anyway, I took it apart and sanded and de-flashed all of the moving parts with 1500 and 2000grit wet-dry..100% better! like butter now..
    Now this is why I wanted to post.. Out at the range I had 160gr & 170gr Federal, the Hornady Leverevolution, also 160gr, 160gr Winchester and the Rem managed recoil in 120gr.. I wanted to see how the spreads would differ.. I zeroed the new scope(the new Weaver was awesome! Super clear optics).. There was about a 3" vertical difference at 100yrds between the different wts and the groups were all about 1.5" That until I shot the 170 Federal. I got, and continue to get, 3/4" clovers at 100yrds! Switching back and forth did nothing to change this, so I cant say it was the barrel setting in.. Has anyone else had a similar experience with ammo or diff. 336's liking certain wt ?
     
  17. Abel

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    The majority of 336's that I've run into prefer the cheap stuff or handloads that replicate the cheap stuff. Most like 170 grain over 150, but I have seen exceptions to that. The trick, as you have already figured, is to find out what it likes.
     
  18. tattoo13

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    Just saw this post, figured I would post up my truck gun.
    Gets shot a lot, and carried a lot, I have tried AR's, Bolt Guns, even shotguns, but I always go back to my sweetheart:
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  19. Storm

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    I guess I joined the club. Thursday I was at a local shop with some money burining a hole in my pocket. I was looking for something different and i had long wanted a lever gun. At first i spotted a Glenfield 30A in outstanding condition and a 336 in good condition, and a Western Auto in good condition. I was going back and forth between the three on the rack checking as much as I could about them on the Net with my Droid. I decided on the Glenfield. At just over $200 and $50 less than the Western and $90 less than the 336, and in the best condition, I made my way to the counter. While getting ready to do the paperwork I noticed a like-new Winchester 94AE 100th anniversary carbine with a large loop lever behind the counter. It was almost twice the price of the Glenfield so I was really torn. I asked the opinion of the guys in the shop as to which, and it was like a lot of the threads here when comparing the Marlin and Winchester. I opted for the Winchester. When i got home I came here and did the research. I was happy with the Winchester, but knew that the Glenfield needed to be mine as well. I went back to the shop the next day and grabbed it. I'm darn glad that I did.

    I've done some refinishing to the stocks but other than that the gun is in outstanding condition. It was made in 1976. The scope mount came off and the mounting holes have been plugged with flush set screws. I may order the ones from Numrich. I'm not big on the pressed scrollwork, but I can live with it and it might grow on me. It should be fun to shoot the 30A side-by-side with the Winchester. I can see how these things might be addicting.

    I'm already strarting to think about the 336 and that Western Auto...:eek:
     
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  20. Happycamper

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    I have a 336 A DL that is in pretty condition. It has checkering and was made about '48. It shoots 30-30. My strap cracked in half for reasons unknown.

    How do you load a photo of it?
     
  21. PR-NJ

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    Variable scope, standard mount vs. fixed power scout

    What say you? (Apologies if this has been covered in the last 100 or so pages.)
     
  22. Abel

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    Fixed 4x32mm on a conventional low mount.
     
  23. Storm

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    Well, this morning I picked up the 336 that I refered to in post 2543 above. It seems that a few other Marlins and a Rossi sold over the weekend and there were lots of calls so far that morning about 30-30 lever guns. It was a good thing I jumped on it. It turns out to be a 1976, the same year as my Glenfield. I will take off the original wood stock and store it and shoot it with a Ramline stock that I have ordered.

    Question. The barrel is marked only as a "336". Is that the same rifle as the 336A?

    One other question. This rifle will not be scoped. I am thinking about adding a front sight hood. How does this effect the use of iron sights?
     
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  24. DashCasey0120

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    hello everyone, pretty new to THR, but this one of the first places i've stumbled into. My question is about a saddle ring, i have a newer model 336 and im really wanting to make it look a little more authentic, any thoughts on this?
     
  25. Abel

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    A saddle ring will not make it look like anything other than a rifle with a saddle ring. And if you don't have a saddle to tie it to, its worthless.
     

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