The 686
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KONY
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Jad, maybe he won't mind as it seems unloaded!
benedict1
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The ten day wait was over this morning and my 686+ is out of 'custody', custody of the California bureaucrats. It is the 4" bbl. version.
I shot 100 rounds of light .357 Mag loads, 6.1 gr Unique with 158 gr plated bullet and 50 rounds of .38 Spec., 3.9 gr Win 231 with the same bullet. I had a little problem jerking the trigger in double action--I'm mostly a 1911 shooter. So I just finished off the rest of the rounds shooting single action, which was most satisfying.
My final 50 rounds at 15 yds with the .38 Spec loads starting grouping hits nicely in and around a 4" circle.
I am going to shoot it again tomorrow and really concentrate on the d. a. trigger pull. I shoot a G21 too and have no trouble with that d.a. pull; the 686+ is a little heavier and a little different feel, obviously.
I will get a picture posted later in the week. It is one handsome revolver! I brought it home and cleaned it and polished it up--very classy.
I shot 100 rounds of light .357 Mag loads, 6.1 gr Unique with 158 gr plated bullet and 50 rounds of .38 Spec., 3.9 gr Win 231 with the same bullet. I had a little problem jerking the trigger in double action--I'm mostly a 1911 shooter. So I just finished off the rest of the rounds shooting single action, which was most satisfying.
My final 50 rounds at 15 yds with the .38 Spec loads starting grouping hits nicely in and around a 4" circle.
I am going to shoot it again tomorrow and really concentrate on the d. a. trigger pull. I shoot a G21 too and have no trouble with that d.a. pull; the 686+ is a little heavier and a little different feel, obviously.
I will get a picture posted later in the week. It is one handsome revolver! I brought it home and cleaned it and polished it up--very classy.
AStone
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Unlike this one ......maybe he won't mind as it seems unloaded!
benedict1
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Learning to shoot double action on my 686+
I have only shot for about a year and mostly with 1911-style semi-autos, so my new 686+ double action is a new challenge.
Here is a target I shot at 7 yds today--for the orange area about 60 rounds; for the head area I shot at 10 yds and these were the last ~40 rounds I shot--I got a little tired and jerked about a dozen of them--
I feel good about these-they were all .38 Special. I didn't shoot .357 Mag today because I thought it best to shoot lighter loads while trying to learn to shoot double action.
Edited: I neglected to mention--I shoot left-handed
I have only shot for about a year and mostly with 1911-style semi-autos, so my new 686+ double action is a new challenge.
Here is a target I shot at 7 yds today--for the orange area about 60 rounds; for the head area I shot at 10 yds and these were the last ~40 rounds I shot--I got a little tired and jerked about a dozen of them--
I feel good about these-they were all .38 Special. I didn't shoot .357 Mag today because I thought it best to shoot lighter loads while trying to learn to shoot double action.
Edited: I neglected to mention--I shoot left-handed
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Golddog
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I've owned maybe ten 586's (including the scarce 3") and probably twenty 686's in every barrel length (including three 5" and the very rare 7"). For awhile I also had the ported, bead blast 3" 681.
Currenty I've got a 2 1/2"; three 3" (including the rare unluted bead blast model and the PC ported, unfluted, factory night sight version); three 4" (including a CS-1), a 5" Bill Davis National Match unfluted with Patridge sights; and a 6", which has the best trigger of any of the hundreds of DA revolvers I've shot.
I've tried most of the readily available grips and prefer Ahrends round butt finger grooves and Eagle Classics for the square butts.
The best concealed carry holster has been the Tucker Texas Heritage IWB. The handsomest is a Saguaro Leather IWB. For shoulder carry, I prefer an old Lawman Leather Dirty Harry rig, built gor 4" N frames but perfect for L frames, too.
Currenty I've got a 2 1/2"; three 3" (including the rare unluted bead blast model and the PC ported, unfluted, factory night sight version); three 4" (including a CS-1), a 5" Bill Davis National Match unfluted with Patridge sights; and a 6", which has the best trigger of any of the hundreds of DA revolvers I've shot.
I've tried most of the readily available grips and prefer Ahrends round butt finger grooves and Eagle Classics for the square butts.
The best concealed carry holster has been the Tucker Texas Heritage IWB. The handsomest is a Saguaro Leather IWB. For shoulder carry, I prefer an old Lawman Leather Dirty Harry rig, built gor 4" N frames but perfect for L frames, too.
jad0110
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Yeah, well, I was just seeing if you guys were paying attention ... Good job!
I figured to that if it were loaded I would have violated one of the 4 rules
.Nem got around that though with a really cool angle. I'll have to try that sometime.
benedict1,
Those look like pretty respectable shot groups to me. Give it time, the S&W DA pull will grow on you to the point that you'll like it as much as anything else (if not more so).
barneyrw
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686 plus cylinder interchangable with 686 or 681?
Does anyone know if the 686 plus cylinders are interchangable with the 6 shot 686's or 681's?
Does anyone know if the 686 plus cylinders are interchangable with the 6 shot 686's or 681's?
jad0110
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No, as the timing of the two are totally different for one thing (one cylinder has to rotate and stop on 6 holes and the other 7). That would probably mean having to get all new guts for the gun, and at that point you have a really good excuse to add another wheelie to your collection
!Now, you could move a 6 shot cyinder to another 6 shot gun, but there is usually no need to do that. Plus, I assume that there would be some hand fitting involved to get the cylinder to fit the yolk barrel (err, the thingie that the cylinder spins on
) without being too tight or too lose (end play/shake).Just curious, were the 681 and 581 offered in 7 shot format? I know the 586 was.
Not during ther regular production run of those models (581 & 681). Both were discontinued before the seven shot models were introduced by Smith.
I don't have my copy of Supica and Nahas with me as I type this (I'm at work shhhh don't tell the boss), but I believe that the Performance Center has made a special run of 681's with seven shot cylinders in the past few years. However I'm not certain.
I don't have my copy of Supica and Nahas with me as I type this (I'm at work shhhh don't tell the boss), but I believe that the Performance Center has made a special run of 681's with seven shot cylinders in the past few years. However I'm not certain.
WheelGunMom
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Any other ladies out there with a 686+???
Mine is the 4", with Pachmayr Compact grips just like jad0110's.
The long trigger pull takes some getting used to, and it's a bit heavy for me for extended range time, but it's a thing of beauty and I love to shoot it.
(+1 for Lead Away patches -- don't know how to get the front of the cylinder really clean without using these . . .)
Mine is the 4", with Pachmayr Compact grips just like jad0110's.
The long trigger pull takes some getting used to, and it's a bit heavy for me for extended range time, but it's a thing of beauty and I love to shoot it.
(+1 for Lead Away patches -- don't know how to get the front of the cylinder really clean without using these . . .)
jad0110
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Amen to that! Lead away patches are one of the greatest cleaning implements for stainless steel guns ever devised, IMO. Right up their with Breakfree CLP, Hoppes #9, and boresnakes.
Mine won't wear the Pachmayrs forever. I'd like to get some Ahrends exotic hardwoods for it someday.
So, where's the pic?
WheelGunMom
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So, where's the pic?
I don't have any pictures of "Lucky 7" -- guess I'll have to dig out the digital camera and take some cheesecake shots of her reclining on my nightstand.
glockman19
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I have a 686 4" I'll join.
i had one. it was a police issued one. it had some scratches so i just sanded it and gave it a brushed stainless look. and put some hogue grips on it, and got a speedloader. it was ok, but i wanted a .44 more, but that was all i could get at the time.
yours are nicer than mine. mine didnt have that rail on top like s&w's have now.
yours are nicer than mine. mine didnt have that rail on top like s&w's have now.
Deanimator
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I currently own and have only ever owned one stainless firearm of any kind.
I don't like stainless. I looked for a 3" S&W Model 13 for over a year and didn't see a SINGLE one at local gunshows. I finally bit the bullet and jumped on a great deal on the nearly identical Model 65s that CDNN had last fall.
My preference is still for blued firearms. The only other stainless gun I'd consider would be a pre-lock 4" 686, if I couldn't find a 586 for a reasonable price. I have the unpleasant suspicion that it's going to be a 686.
Brian Williams
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No, as the timing of the two are totally different for one thing (one cylinder has to rotate and stop on 6 holes and the other 7). That would probably mean having to get all new guts for the gun, and at that point you have a really good excuse to add another wheelie to your collection
Now, you could move a 6 shot cyinder to another 6 shot gun, but there is usually no need to do that. Plus, I assume that there would be some hand fitting involved to get the cylinder to fit the yolk barrel (err, the thingie that the cylinder spins on
A 7 shot cylinder can be fitted to a 6 shot gun and visa-versa, If anything the hand might have to be changed. But you are looking at at least $150 for the cylinder assembly including; the cylinder/extractor star, the ejector rod, the cylinder lock pin and spring. Plus fitting a new cylinder will be about $50 at a local smith.
I called S&W and asked approx price for this conversion and it would be around $200 to switch from a 6 shot to a 7 shot cylinder. This did not include shipping both ways.
Sun195
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Just recently joined the club: 686 4". Debated whether to go with a six or seven shot model - six just seemed right for a revolver.
Still trying to figure out what grips to go with. Don't like the Hogues that came on it. Got Uncle Mike's on right now, but they don't fit all that well. May try some Pachmayrs next.
Still trying to figure out what grips to go with. Don't like the Hogues that came on it. Got Uncle Mike's on right now, but they don't fit all that well. May try some Pachmayrs next.
might as well make my first post here.
686+, 4" barrel and hogues. for years i've been itching to put some money into it but it just works so well i never got around to it. i think i'm gonna finally break down and get a wolff spring pack this week to start.
686+, 4" barrel and hogues. for years i've been itching to put some money into it but it just works so well i never got around to it. i think i'm gonna finally break down and get a wolff spring pack this week to start.
Baphomet
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Sun195 said:
I might suggest something from Mr. Kim Ahrends.
His square-butt conversion grips are the best damn grips I've ever put on a Smith'.
do you prefer early or late model
I read your posts for hours after finding this. Really enjoy 686's and own several.
Bought a 686 -1m, couple of months ago for $399 + tax in about 80-85 %, mostly scratches, bore very good. Was probably police carry. Am curious as to you all prefer early 686, 686-1 or later 686 -5, etc. I believe action jobs and untouched revolvers of first series guns are smoother.
Thank you and take care......
I read your posts for hours after finding this. Really enjoy 686's and own several.
Bought a 686 -1m, couple of months ago for $399 + tax in about 80-85 %, mostly scratches, bore very good. Was probably police carry. Am curious as to you all prefer early 686, 686-1 or later 686 -5, etc. I believe action jobs and untouched revolvers of first series guns are smoother.
Thank you and take care......
AStone
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686 holsters
MigD & JGreywolf, welcome to THR, and to The 686 C... (Be sure to check out our "new members" thread in General Gun Discussions. Good place to make your interests be known.)
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Today, I'm picking up on some research that I started a while back,
but got side tracked: one or more holsters from my 686+ 4".
I'm pretty sure I'm going to end up with a chest holster of some kind for it for hiking with a backpack with waist belt (for example, maybe a Simply Rugged Chesty Puller), and am considering shoulder, cross draw and strong side holsters as well. (I've ordered a Galco gun belt, and want to get it before advancing too far on and trying out cross draw and strong side.) I'm also hungry for a Maxpedition Versapack.
But today, another option crossed my mind that might work as well as chest holster with a backpack: a thigh-mounted holster. I know nothing about these except for having seen a few images on more tactical oriented web pages, like this one. So far, the only holsters like that I've found are for pistols, not revolvers. I'm not even sure if they make such things for revolvers.
Such a holster could work well for me because while being supported by the belt, the holster itself would hang low and thus not interfere with backpack waist belt use.
Do any of you have knowledge about such a holster for revolvers? Names, models, links, advice, pros, cons...?
Thanks.
Nem
MigD & JGreywolf, welcome to THR, and to The 686 C... (Be sure to check out our "new members" thread in General Gun Discussions. Good place to make your interests be known.)
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Today, I'm picking up on some research that I started a while back,
but got side tracked: one or more holsters from my 686+ 4".
I'm pretty sure I'm going to end up with a chest holster of some kind for it for hiking with a backpack with waist belt (for example, maybe a Simply Rugged Chesty Puller), and am considering shoulder, cross draw and strong side holsters as well. (I've ordered a Galco gun belt, and want to get it before advancing too far on and trying out cross draw and strong side.) I'm also hungry for a Maxpedition Versapack.
But today, another option crossed my mind that might work as well as chest holster with a backpack: a thigh-mounted holster. I know nothing about these except for having seen a few images on more tactical oriented web pages, like this one. So far, the only holsters like that I've found are for pistols, not revolvers. I'm not even sure if they make such things for revolvers.
Such a holster could work well for me because while being supported by the belt, the holster itself would hang low and thus not interfere with backpack waist belt use.
Do any of you have knowledge about such a holster for revolvers? Names, models, links, advice, pros, cons...?
Thanks.
Nem
Rollis R. Karvellis
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Nematocyst-870 those pepperroni&baklava sandwich's give me gas
Love the 686 have a 7 shot, now looking for a used one for open sight shooting, the whole sale is $509.00 as of 03-22-07.
Love the 686 have a 7 shot, now looking for a used one for open sight shooting, the whole sale is $509.00 as of 03-22-07.
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