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Okay, so I've wasted an hour or so watching videos and looking at pictures :scrutiny:.

I'm not seeing what makes their stock so specially adapted to shouldered bumpfire over any other pistol grip 10/22 stock that had a forward grip. Why can't I take, say a Butler Creek folder, slap a forward grip on it and be good to go? Granted, I've not played with this and have not compared their stock in person with anything else. I could see that maybe they've "perfected" the pistol grip configuration to optimize the effect. It'd seem with some Bubba-ing I could make the interface of the BC stock and the Kidd trigger group work though. Maybe not.

My search over at RFC turned up just two short threads. Surely with all the wackos in there (myself included :uhoh:) someone has played around with the idea.
 
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Okay, so I've wasted an hour or so watching videos and looking at pictures .

I'm not seeing what makes their stock so specially adapted to shouldered bumpfire over any other pistol grip 10/22 stock that had a forward grip. Why can't I take, say a Butler Creek folder, slap a forward grip on it and be good to go? Granted, I've not played with this and have not compared their stock in person with anything else. I could see that maybe they've "perfected" the pistol grip configuration to optimize the effect. It'd seem with some Bubba-ing I could make the interface of the BC stock and the Kidd trigger group work though. Maybe not.

I'll try to answer your questions Magoo.
What makes the Fostech Outdoors AA2, 10/22 stock so specially adapted to shouldered bumpfire over any other pistol grip 10/22 stock that has a forward grip,....is because of several things.

1. The receiver barrel and trigger group are supported by two hardened rods which slide on precision linear bearings, said bearings being situated in a housing which is located and attached in the fore end of the stock.

2. The forward pistol grip is attached to a housing that is attached to the rods which are in turn attached via another attachment piece to the receiver. When forward isometric tension is exerted against the fore end pistol grip, as the barreled receiver/trigger group recoils, it temporarily overcomes the shooter's constant forward tension, but immediately as the recoil dissipates, the shooter's constant forward tension then causes the action to move back forwardly again, thus bringing the trigger back into contact with the finger and the process is repeated....very fast.

There are actually several ways you may operate it to bumpfire. There is a "finger stop" designed to hold your trigger finger in a stationary position so the trigger may contact the trigger finger consistently each time. You may first place your trigger finger on the finger stop and then push forward on the fore end pistol grip thus bringing the trigger forward into contact with your (stabilized on the finger stop) trigger finger, thus functioning the trigger. Or, you may first push the fore end grip forward which brings the trigger forward of the finger stops, and then function the trigger and after functioning the trigger, your trigger finger will naturally contact the finger stop where you keep it tensioned against. Or you may arch your trigger finger and place it on the finger stop in such a way that it doesn't function the trigger yet, but as you straighten out the arch of your finger, while keeping your finger on the finger stop, it then functions the trigger. Any of those several methods will work to operate the bumpfiring mode. There are also several ways to fire single shots in non bumpfire mode. One way is you simply tension harder against the fore grip thus not allowing the recoil to bring the action back, or after firing the first shot, you simply release any forward tension against the fore grip. The stock's butt is able to be tightly held against the shooter's shoulder. Everything I have written above is how it is so specially adapted to shouldered bumpfiring.

You could not do the same thing simply "Bubba'ing" and putting a fore end pistol grip on a Butler Creek stock as you mentioned. The Butler Creek stock is not designed nor able to do what I described above. For you to "Bubba" make your own stock that would do the same thing as the AA2, you would have to not only custom build all the parts I've mentioned, but also have to custom build your own stock with a wider fore end to fit them into. That would cost you more time and money to do that than if you just bought the Fostech Outdoors AA2.

I know it may be hard to visualize what I've described without having one in hand to inspect, but I hope my description answered your questions.


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So do we get an BATFE letter if we buy this like they have with the Slide Fire?
 
Fostech Outdoors has BATFE approval letters available for you to read or download at their website.


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Straight from the horses mouth! (no offense intended, Bill ;))

Thank you for taking the time to answer my questions and prove to me I didn't understand what was going on (big surprise :eek:). After my post I had seen the inner guts picture of the stock and assumed there was more going on than I could Bubba, but it's much clearer to me now.

I'm glad to see your product back out in the marketplace and wish you all the best. I can't imagine the headaches you went through before, but hopefully the reincarnation will at least provide you with some peace of mind/vendication.
 
Fostech Outdoors has BATFE approval letters available for you to read or download at their website.


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Cool, being a lawyer by trade I always find BATFE letters interesting to read...even if denying something good.
 
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