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I think everyone should have a .38 Special snubnose revolver. They make the best "always guns." My favorite is the Smith M649, but lots of others fill the bill too.

Snubbies are easy to conceal, so you can carry them daily, or just slip one in a pocket to answer the door late at night. They use a cartridge with more oomph that the .32 or .380. Ammo is easy to find, almost everyone that sells ammo has .38 Special.
In winter, outside, a .38 snub in a coat pocket is easier to reach than anything on the belt under the coat. The same applies while driving.

I have some pocket pistols and have carried them occasionally. The M649 just works better for me, however.
 
Not being a fan of revolvers, it cost me quite a bit of $$$ to find out that what you say is true (for me at least ;) )

Mine's a S&W 642. Although it's bigger than most pocket autos I've tried, the curves and contours give it a much different (and much less obvious) print signature than a blocky, squared semi-auto. It looks like keys in my pocket, rather than a thick wallet.

I'm planning on trying ankle carry with it, for times when I'll be sitting quite a bit and can't get to my "other" CCW.
 
For years I owned lots of tiny guns: those NAA things, and .25s and .22s. And I carried a couple all the time.

But I started to have real doubts about these guns' abilities to stop an attacker. And, realistically, I think a .38 spl +P is about as mimimal as I'm willing to go (tho' I mostly use a 940 for this duty - like the quick reloads from moon clips out of a medicine bottle).

Fortunately, with a proper pocket holster, a J-frame is as easy to carry as any of the tiny guns I ever owned. And it hits hard enough so that you're sure it will count. With those new ultra-lightweight Smiths out there . . . I just can't see a downside (unless it's the $$$! :) ).
 
Well Put ACP230

For years I searched for the ultimate small and powerful automatic.

Then I re discovered a S&W Model 38. Goes with me everywhere now.

And for heavier lifting there is a S&W 940 that rides in a holster.

The ultimate utiliity of the revolver is what appeals to me. Point and shoot. No safety, no order of arms to deal with, just go.

And being under 15 oz loaded is a real plus for the Model 38:D
 
I spent a good amount of $$ to find out that my j-frame really fits that need very well. My plan now is to "upgrade" to a hammerless version...probably a 640
 
I aiways hava a NAA mini revolver in 22 in my pocket, when peopel giggle and say "its only a little 22 it wont stop an attacker" I offer to shoot them in the face with it...everyone declines.

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My "always" pistol is a Colt Combat Commander. Its always on and has never been a problem to hide, at least for me. Its flatter than a revover, and really not that much bigger and to me easier to hide and carry. Even the reloads are larger and more compact and easily hidden in a pocket if necessary. Has a nice, big, fat bullet too. :) I actually feel more self conscious with my Baby Browning in my front pocket, than I do having my Commander under a light shirt.
 
Mine's the S&W Model 638, Bodyguard Airweight.

It weighs 14 oz., and is rated for +P ammo. - my choice: the +P, 158 grain LSWCHP by Winchester.

The shrouded, snag-free hammer, allows me to safely perform a cylinder rotation check.
 
Guys, all I know about revolvers is how to shoot them and a basic understanding of how they work.

Is there a hammerless snub-nosed revo like you talk about, but in .357?
 
So let me ask a question. Why go with a snubbie revo limited to +P 38 Special, why not go with one in 357Mag instead? When comparing the two, the guns are virtually identical in size, weight, etc, yet the 357 model, say 340, shoots a wider/more powerful range of ammo.
 
A .357 going off in a snub is something I care not to experience again---I think you'll find most others will agree. Too much gun---so why pay the extra $$ for a .357??

back to topic---

While I have a 637-----my G27 is what always comes with me------more shots---bigger caliber.
 
So let me ask a question. Why go with a snubbie revo limited to +P 38 Special, why not go with one in 357Mag instead? When comparing the two, the guns are virtually identical in size, weight, etc, yet the 357 model, say 340, shoots a wider/more powerful range of ammo.
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-A .357 going off in a snub is something I care not to experience again---I think you'll find most others will agree. Too much gun---so why pay the extra $$ for a .357??
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The only advantage of the .38 snubbie over a .357 Magnum is the size and weight. Generally most .38s are a little smaller and lighter especially with the new titaniums. Most are the 5 shot variety. If you are going to buy a snubbie, get a light weight model. If you buy a blue steel or stainless steel model, then you are better off going with a .357 magnum. A lot more firepower for usually an ounce or 2 increase in weight, and most are 6 shot models. I personally prefer the .357 and carry a Rossi 462. It's 26 oz., 2"bbl,6 shot and 6&1/2" long. The equivalent snubbie in .38+P from Rossi (model 352) is 24&1/2 oz. 5 shots, 2"bbl and the same overall length. BTW, the price was exactly the same for both models at $285 plus tax. There isn't that much difference in recoil between .38+P and .357 magnum. With the .357 you can always shoot .38 specials or +Ps if you can't deal with the recoil, but you always have the choice.
 
I went with the 38 becuase that is all I plan on shooting in the lightweight frame. I din't want the .357 even though I could fire 38's in it becuase of the additional ring of carbon build up do to the case length difference which is a pain in the but to clean.
 
Snub's

I have a couple of CZ'S I like them both. Very reliable. Also a couple of Bulgie Mak's, they always work. A couple of weeks ago I started looking for a snub-nosed revolver. I found a NIB SS Mod 60 made in 76. It was from an estate sale. Price was right. I feel very lucky to have this fine revolver. It is always handy.
 
Isn't it amazing that gun folks will find even the most minute details to argue over? It sure makes for entertaining reading though.

My always gun is the fantastic little S&W 642 .38 Spl. +P.
DAL
 
my always gun is my new Kahr MK40. I guess I'm just an Auto guy. the day I picked it up, I kept it min my pocket for hours, and my roomates didn't even notice it until I pulled it out to show them. and that's with out a pocket holster. it should be even more concealable with the right holster.I've shot some of the scandium and titanium j-frames, and all I can say is *ouch*:what: not fun to shoot for me, and I would rather deal with a little more weight, and get something that I don't mind practicing with than going ultra light and barely shooting the thing. though, I shot a titanium smith .44 special, and that was pretty fun! though it was a little bigger than a j-frame. I think it's the model that Tamara has. might pick up one of those if I have a little too much cash burning a hole in my pocket.
 
Since buying the 340PD it goes with me everywhere usually in a DeSantis pocket holster. The hammerless design never snags my pocket, and the light weight is practically unnoticeable. I use +P hydra-shok and feel the recoil is not an issue.
As far as the price goes, the 340 was only $20 more than the 342 Ti in 38+P. I spent that $20 to get the Scandium alloy frame, more so than the ability to shoot 357.
 
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