The Anti-Gun Mentality

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Demitrios said:
The mentality that, "Guns are bad." usually stems from lack of knowledge, which in turn breeds fear, which in turn breeds self-preservation. Why would someone believe they're preserving themselves by giving up their abilities to defend themselves you say? Lack of education which in turn breeds lack of knowledge. . . see where I'm going with this?
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Yep. We really SHOULD engage ant-gunners socially and do our level best to get them to a gun range and put a mild shooting gun into their hands. Once you get'm to that point then a bit of charm and gentle persuasion should start to get them turned around.
 
Anti-Gun banter is simply anti-American. Most people don't even understand what the true purpose of the 2nd Amendment was. It was created for the people to defend themselves from an oppresive govnerment.
 
I should also add that most people aren't actually anti-gun, as they have no problems with police and military personnel having weapons.

They are not anti-gun; they are pro-tyranny.
 
The "anti" movement is primarily concerned with restricting responsible citizens from legally possessing firearms. This movement occupies the same side of the political spectrum as those who believe violent offenders are, in fact, victims deserving of rehabilitation instead of punishment. The common thread is that of collectivism; responsible firearms owners must be "absorbed" into the collective... and violent offenders similarly need to be re-absorbed, rather than shunned or removed from society. Individualism, whether pursued for good or ill intent, is the true fear of the "anti" mentality. Firearms are just tools. The "anti" crowd *actually* wants to disarm citizens of their freedom.
 
Some of the anti crowd (the sheep, not the elitists) are like Amish people who have never seen a car or heard much how they make life easier, but every day they read about how tens of thousands of people a year die in horrid traffic accidents. Every time there's a multiple car pileup on the Interstate with multiple fatalities it's hyped endlessly by their local media.

Of course, the Amish aren't trying to ban cars last I heard.
 
The "anti" movement is primarily concerned with restricting responsible citizens from legally possessing firearms.
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I think those are the minority. The majority they depend on are the people who actually believe gun control laws reduce crime or at the least take guns out of the hands of criminals. They see things like the news article here last night where a 16 yr old girl was shot to death on the street in broad daylight for nothing (I mean literally nothing, someone got in an argument and she was nearby and not involved in the argument, so he shot her). The next call will be to make the area a gun free zone to "Protect our children".

Those people stricken with fear and grief will be lulled into believing that had they enacted such a law before that the thug would no have been illegally carrying his firearm and would not have illegally shot a innocent bystander.

It sounds like insanity but it is really the methodology the minority anti's take. Without fear and misinformation, they could not get any popular support.
 
I would add the crooked politician who identifies with the criminal and not the victim.
 
Yep. We really SHOULD engage ant-gunners socially and do our level best to get them to a gun range and put a mild shooting gun into their hands. Once you get'm to that point then a bit of charm and gentle persuasion should start to get them turned around.
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Well,this might be a somewhat more difficult task,to undertake,particulary,in the case of a Conservative Party MP,Mr Robert Oulds,whom,was on the recieving end,of some negative comments,after posing with his friends guns in a picture,taken on a cell phone-which was 'leaked to the press'.The Labour Party candidate was the most anti& the Tory party,decided to knuckle under,much in the same way,as the Tories did,post-Dunblane in 1996.
http://www.chiswickw4.com/default.asp?section=info&page=concrime87.htm
Also from a personal note myself:I accidently sent a picture of a replica Remington M31 shotgun,to a distant girlfriend of mine&I recieved polite negative comments.
Whats that picture all about then,she said to me? I said,ery politely to her' Oh,thats a film prop,.which is being used in a student movie.Glad you got rid of it babes,It was a scary thing to look at,followed by xx.Some people LOL.
This is a similar picture I sent her,by accident.
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+1 to what Buck Snort said. My shooting buddy and I turned a seriously anti RKBA woman by taking her shooting after a lot of education/persuasion. She is now a CC holder and never goes anywhere without her pistol.
 
You guys do not need to look very far to find the anti-gun freak close to you. Some of their ilk are right here on this and other gun forms. It is part of the "guns are OK, but only the kinds I own" stupidity.

Ranb
 
Individualism, whether pursued for good or ill intent, is the true fear of the "anti" mentality.
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I think that is an accurate assessment.

Many are "well-intentioned" pacifist types who believe in the inherent goodness in all people. Ironically, many of these do not believe in God - and conversly, do not believe in Evil. They believe that violent criminals can be rehabilitated and turned into kinder and gentler members of society. Therefore, we should not execute them, nor should we have the ability to kill them in an act of self-defense - before they have had yet another opportunity to be properly redeemed.
 
You can't argue with an irrational fear.

Back when I was an anti, my main concern wasn't with getting guns out of the hands of criminals. I knew criminals would always have guns; no way to get around that. What I was concerned with was the "thousands" of deaths caused by accidental shootings every year and of the many "heat of passion" killings that took place during arguments between otherwise law-abiding people. If we could "save one life" then banning guns would be worth it.

It never occurred to me that anyone's life could be saved by owning a gun, and that the number of lives saved might be greater than the number of lives lost. It also never occurred to me that maybe there weren't as many accidental gun deaths per year as I had been led to believe by watching the news.
 
Let us cut right to the chase and skip all the psycho-babble.

Anti's are scared little people, scared from lack of knowledge or even compassion, sheep wanting to be protected or wolves who don't want the sheep to be able to decide they won't be forced to be on today's menu.

Neither group deserves any attention other than that necessary to protect ourselves from their phobias or power grabs.

It really is that simple.
 
Many are just followers not thinking for themselves. They are anti because they belong to a group. For example, they may be an environmentalist, therefore liberal, therefore anti-gun. Someone with a liberal view of one issue will by default be anti-gun many times. They may not have truely concidered the gun control issue. They think "my friends think this way so I will too".
 
Just like all other bigotry, it's based on an insatiable need for control because of a deep seeded inferiority complex.
 
This IS a PERFECT example!
The stupid Effer points a gun at some innocent human then proceds to lecture him about how much smarter he is, how inferior citizens are, and how thier God Given Rights don't count anymore!
Where's the rope?
 
Thank you Buck Snort for the excellent link.

This is a great thread. I'm still confused as to why so many Americans hate firearms and us owners so much.
 
Thank You Bucksnort!!!!! That article was fantastic, and should be a mandatory read for all types of people. I had never seen it before today, but I sure wish I had.
 
All four of the positions supporting prohibition of firearms ownership have one thing in common - exertion of control. That is what prohibition of firearms ownership is ultimately about - only the motives differ.
 
Many are just followers not thinking for themselves.
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This is absolutely true.

My experience in over thirty years of debating anti-gunners is that the rank and file can't do anything except parrot slogans. They literally have NO understanding of the subject or indeed of what they're saying to you. Ask them, "What does that mean?" and you'll either get rote repetition or a deer in the headlights look of terror. There's [often imperfect] memorization, not understanding. They don't question what's told to them and in turn don't expect to themselves be questioned. When they are, they're at a total loss. At that point they either repeat themselves endlessly, flee, or resort to insults.. and if you're the wrong color, ethnicity or religion, frequently bigoted insults of the crudest sort. I know, I've been there.

The lowest common denominator types don't have actual beliefs, merely talking points which they receive from others. They don't know what they're talking about or even care. They want to fit in and be "popular" with likeminded individuals.

When confronted with their own ignorance, many will continue to toe the party line. A few will get tired of being embarrassed for somebody else's benefit.

You're HIGHLY unlikely to change the mind of a "movement" anti-gunner, just as you're not likely to change the mind of a "movement" Holocaust denier. You MAY change the mind of a sheep, but not all that often. What you CAN do is show the fence sitters that they're being lied to. That DOES work. I've seen it over and over for decades. The honest person HATES being lied to and will turn on those whom he thinks are deceiving him.
 
Classic anti gun Woman. 67 year old nieghbor lady is anti gun and keeps her dog in a cage at night. No yard lights on during the night. This a a ultra high crime area. Even the police said she was stupid. :banghead:
 
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