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The best 9mm FMJ ammo?

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by bg226, Dec 24, 2009.

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  1. bg226

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    What is generally considered the best 9mm FMJ in quality and reliability?
     
  2. 481

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    I don't believe that there is any "one best" 9mm FMJ loading.

    If you are looking for high quality practice ammunition, I'd recommend trying any of the domestically produced "generic brand" ammunition like Federal's American Eagle, Winchester USA or Remington UMC.

    There are also quite a few foreign manufacturer ammo selections available like Sellier & Bellot and Fiocchi (among others) that will do just as well.
     
  3. CJ

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    Sorry, but best for what purpose? Punching clean holes in paper? Highest velocity? Best at low recoil? What exactly are you wanting to do with it?
     
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    For range purposes, I've found Remington UMC to be the most accurate and consistent of typical "range ammo."

    For SD if I HAD to use a non-expanding FMJ, I might go with something loaded a little hotter than the UMC tends to be. I believe S&B is usually a bit hotter but I'm not sure.
     
  6. Jed Carter

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    Winchester white box works everytime, no failures. Remington UMC green box has had 3 failure to feed in Glock G34, bullets set too shallow, Federal American Eagle I have limited experience with but no failures. S&B very reliable but accuracy issues, same with Wolf (fliers). Speer very reliable and accurate, but again, limited use by me. I like Winchester for the price Speer and Federal tied for next and UMC my choice when the others are not available.
     
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    Very interesting that you say that. UMC is my first choice. Wow. Different experiences.

    So long as we can agree that Winchester Widcat is the WORST .22lr ammo ever made, then we can still be friends.;)
     
  8. Onmilo

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    I like German made GECO but it is getting very hard to find in the USA now.
     
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    I like blazer brass and the cheap federal from walmart. Then the Remington umc and American eagle. I absolutely can't stand WWB it's the most consistently dirty ammo out of the brands I've purchased.
     
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    I have no 9mm experience, but I usually use Speer Lawman with good results in .45ACP. I would expect the 9mm version to be of similar quality.
     
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    well the worst i've used is remington umc. gotten whole boxes that weren't crimped at all and the bullets would sink down into the shells with a light touch. UMC is also the only brand that i get dud rounds with. that stuff is garbage. i would never use wolf or any other steel case ammo either.

    best stuff: federal champion, sellior&bellot, winchester white box, speer lawman, blazer brass, and federal american eagle. federal champion being the cleanest.


    pmc bronze and magtech aren't bad either, if that's all you can find.
     
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    My favorite, when I can get it, is PMC bronze ammo 124gr FMJ.. most consistent in overall, short/long distance, accuracy IMHO..

    Less expensive than either WWB or Federal 115gr FMJ

    Federal is the cleanest of the bunch and consistent accuracy is there, as well.

    OMMV,


    Ls
     
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    I've heard great things about the Remington "green box" which not the UMC. WWB and NATO ammo.

    Federal = American Eagle?
     
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    remington green box is UMC--same garbage.

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    The allegedly good Remington stuff "green box" is numbered R9MM3 (115gr) and R9MM2 (124gr) and it is not UMC. The box is yellow and green. I do not have any to take a pic.
     
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    take a closer look at the pic i posted, notice the "UMC" on the front of the box underneath the remington logo, my friend.

    green box was supposed to be umc with better quality control, but it's the same garbage with a different box.
     
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    For defensive use against animals in the woods. I need the most premium 9mm FMJ. Not the cheap stuff.
     
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    FMJs are, for the most part, "the cheap stuff". :D

    Don't get me wrong, I am not saying that FMJ ammo is junk, just that FMJ ammo is typically the least expensive ammo to be found.

    About the only distinction to be made within the "class" of FMJs is that some are just a jacketed round nose lead cores that are clad in guilding metal (Cu 95%/Zn 5%) and then there is, what amounts to a "bonded" FMJ, as produced by Speer, called the TMJ (Total Metal Jacket) bullet.

    Speer's TMJ manufacturing process differs in that the lead core is not inserted into a pre-formed metal jacket, but rather the jacket material is plated (via electro-deposition during immersion in an electrolytic bath) "one molecule at a time" onto the bullet's lead core, creating a molecularly "bonded" union between the bullet's core material and its jacket material.

    This makes a TMJ jacket/core separation all but impossible and offers (at least theoretically) a more durable overall construction than a conventionally manufactured FMJ bullet. The TMJ is loaded in the CCI Blazer (Brass and Aluminum cased) ammunition lines.

    The Speer TMJ is about as "premium" as you are going to get within the "class" of FMJs, for what little difference it might actually make.
     
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    To say what's the best is hard - I shoot a lot of blazer brass and have been happy with it. I've also been pleased with S&B.
     
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    The best full metal jacket ammo for me are the ones I reload myself!
     
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    for best geco ammo. clean accurate . however rare. Currently aimsurplus has it in stock. Now made in Switzerland white box /gecco. around 11.27 a box.
    good luck.
     
  22. 19-3Ben

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    OOHHHHHHH now that's a different story.

    In that case you want something loaded hot, heavy, and with a flat point.
    The velocity is for energy obviously, weight to smash through bone, and flat point so that it crushes a little bit instead of slipping through.

    If I were in your shoes there is nothing I would rather have than this stuff.
    Tailor made to fit your needs.
     
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    What kind of animals?

    For run-of-the-mill gophers, coyotes, wild dogs, possems, and skunks, even an occasional couger, a good JHP is far better then FMJ.

    If it's bigger or tougher then a couger, you need a bigger gun!

    And anyway, the most dangerous animal in the woods is walking on two legs and wearing a wife-beater t-shirt!

    Again, JHP is far superior to FMJ for that use too.

    rc
     
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  24. Hawthorne2k

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    What he said. FMJ is range ammo, jacketed hollow points (JHP) is for self-defense.

    That is, unless you're living somewheres that considers hollow-point rounds to be some kinda evile killing machine, at which point you may want to look into Federal's EFMJ (Expanding Full Metal Jacket) ammo or something similar. A local gun shop would be able to give you pointers as to what is and is not illegal in your area.
     
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    I had a round out of a pack of 250 that was set deep in the case.

    Check each round before loading it into a magazine- I give each round a once-over to make sure the bullet is set to the correct depth, the primer is set correctly, and nothing else looks funny about the round.
     
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