sundance43.5
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I've owned or shot 3 Norinco SKS's, and all were excellent guns.
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greyling22
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my norinco will hit beer bottles at 100yds all day long. good enough for me.
He, however, wants one with more quality and accuracy.
If he wants to improve the practical accuracy from one, I'd advise him to get a TechSights upgrade. I had a 16" barreled Norinco SKS with that upgrade that would group just as well as my Russian SKS without standard sights. I'd feel kind of bad if I had to modify the receiver cover takedown lever on a Russian, though, so I'd advise him to get a Yugo M59/66. I don't think the Yugos are the best style of SKS or most finely made, but we aren't talking leaps and bounds of difference in accuracy between the different manufacturers anyway. Getting the Yugo would probably allow him to get into the game cheaper than any of the other alternatives.
jm
If he wants to improve the practical accuracy from one, I'd advise him to get a TechSights upgrade. I had a 16" barreled Norinco SKS with that upgrade that would group just as well as my Russian SKS without standard sights. I'd feel kind of bad if I had to modify the receiver cover takedown lever on a Russian, though, so I'd advise him to get a Yugo M59/66. I don't think the Yugos are the best style of SKS or most finely made, but we aren't talking leaps and bounds of difference in accuracy between the different manufacturers anyway. Getting the Yugo would probably allow him to get into the game cheaper than any of the other alternatives.
jm
HogManMagnum
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i hate to beat a dead horse here but what about the Tapco 20 rd mags? ive heard they work well on the yugos if u sand away some wood... im looking a yugo sks basically as a SHTF gun, seeing as with the current political situation we might only have less than a year to buy a nice rifle...
i realize this is only cosmetic and only my taste/opinion but i want a rifle with a nice bannana clip, not that ugly triangular thing the sks has... so that said, does anyone have any good experience/recommendations with aftermarket mags on a yugo? i would rather buy chinese but my funds are unstable so im aiming low... am i wrong for wanting a hi-cap yugo SKS for approx $200? or should i just bite the financial bullet and buy an ak?
i realize this is only cosmetic and only my taste/opinion but i want a rifle with a nice bannana clip, not that ugly triangular thing the sks has... so that said, does anyone have any good experience/recommendations with aftermarket mags on a yugo? i would rather buy chinese but my funds are unstable so im aiming low... am i wrong for wanting a hi-cap yugo SKS for approx $200? or should i just bite the financial bullet and buy an ak?
If you have the money, I'd say get an AK, especially if you want the higher mag capacity. Surplus magazines are also cheap so you can save some money by stocking up on those instead of Tapco SKS mags which cost about twice as much.
An SKS is a nice rifle, though. Just buy both.
An SKS is a nice rifle, though. Just buy both.
BigGunsMoreFun
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Chinese or Yugo would be my choice
I have a couple of Yugo's. I find them to be fairly accurate and reliable in unmodified condition. My Dad has a Chinese and a Russian. The Chinese by far outshoots the Russian and the Yugo.
The Russian looks the best and I have heard great tales about what an excellent gun it is but the one my Dad has must be a bad one. On its best day with good, brass cased ammo, it has never shot better than a 6" group at 100 yards. I don't care whose shooting it or how good the ammo is. It's a very inaccurate gun.
I've seen people trick the SKS out with all kinds of fancy stocks, bipods, scopes, trigger jobs, etc ad nauseum and I've never seen one shoot any better for it. I like the old, natural look on old C&R military guns.
As far as magazines, everyone I've seen that tried the removable magazines and all that other "shadetree gunsmithery" to make it hold more rounds has had nothing but problems. I've yet to see one that had a 30 round magazine that would cycle all 30 rounds. I guess it could be poor gunsmithing but I'm thinking it's more likely poor aftermarket parts. :banghead:
Anyway, if I could get a Chinese for a decent price (< $300 ) I'd buy one. If not, the Yugos at J&G are a good deal. The Chinese my Dad has shoots 2" groups at 100 yards. The Yugos I have shoot 3" to 4" groups at 100 yards. I am no sniper so part of the wide grouping could be me. However, I am using the original iron sights and the cheap, steel case Wolf ammo. I tried a scope once and found that I could not keep it zeroed. That bolt cover it mounts to moves around too much.
Have fun with whatever you buy. If you run across a Russian, I'd buy it just to have one whether it shot good or not. It's a great collector's piece and rare these days.
Molon Labe,
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I have a couple of Yugo's. I find them to be fairly accurate and reliable in unmodified condition. My Dad has a Chinese and a Russian. The Chinese by far outshoots the Russian and the Yugo.
The Russian looks the best and I have heard great tales about what an excellent gun it is but the one my Dad has must be a bad one. On its best day with good, brass cased ammo, it has never shot better than a 6" group at 100 yards. I don't care whose shooting it or how good the ammo is. It's a very inaccurate gun.
I've seen people trick the SKS out with all kinds of fancy stocks, bipods, scopes, trigger jobs, etc ad nauseum and I've never seen one shoot any better for it. I like the old, natural look on old C&R military guns.
As far as magazines, everyone I've seen that tried the removable magazines and all that other "shadetree gunsmithery" to make it hold more rounds has had nothing but problems. I've yet to see one that had a 30 round magazine that would cycle all 30 rounds. I guess it could be poor gunsmithing but I'm thinking it's more likely poor aftermarket parts. :banghead:
Anyway, if I could get a Chinese for a decent price (< $300 ) I'd buy one. If not, the Yugos at J&G are a good deal. The Chinese my Dad has shoots 2" groups at 100 yards. The Yugos I have shoot 3" to 4" groups at 100 yards. I am no sniper so part of the wide grouping could be me. However, I am using the original iron sights and the cheap, steel case Wolf ammo. I tried a scope once and found that I could not keep it zeroed. That bolt cover it mounts to moves around too much.
Have fun with whatever you buy. If you run across a Russian, I'd buy it just to have one whether it shot good or not. It's a great collector's piece and rare these days.
Molon Labe,
Joe
magnumman44
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If anyone needs a Norinco, I have one in a monte carlo synthetic stock for $299 + shipping to your ffl. If you want pics, pm me your email addy!
Harve Curry
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The Russian SKS do not have chrome lined bores. In general, does that make the more or less accurate?
magnumman44
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My Norinco is sold
Harve Curry
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I've owned and shot 4 sks's The first was wore out and I sold it. Then I got 3 when the price was down below $80. We shot them from a table and got 1 1/4 inch groups with all 3 at 100 yards, Chinese ammo. Two Chinese, one was pinned, one milled, and the Russian one. The one I kept is Russian unchromed bore and I put it in a Choate adj stock and haven't touched it since. I also put a fixed 20 round magazine on it and it always feeds, so far.
aka108
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Owned 3 Russians and 1 Norinco. Sold the Russians and kept the Norinco. Simply more accurate.
Limeyfellow
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+1, all SKS manufacturers but the Yugos have a thin chrome lined barrel. Of course for most people it didn't really matter, but at the time the Balkans didn't have much in the line of chromium deposits and weren't on the best of terms with the Soviet Union who wouldn't allow shipment of the stuff or many other ore supplies. That is why Yugo SKS' are bulkier in general. It was believed that this would make them last longer and take more abuse.
Harve Curry
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Then I got one in the minority that's unchromed. Thanks for clearing that up.
In general, can chrome make a rifle bore more or less accurate?
In general, can chrome make a rifle bore more or less accurate?
MachIVshooter
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Theoretically, it reduces accuracy. But my chrome-lined Armalite M-15 shoots just as well as any other AR carbine I've played with.
Then I got one in the minority that's unchromed.
Harve, I think there were early Russians that didn't have chrome-lined bores, and you might have one of those. Possibly got some kind of Sino-Soviet frankengun that didn't have it, too.
jm
Harve, I think there were early Russians that didn't have chrome-lined bores, and you might have one of those. Possibly got some kind of Sino-Soviet frankengun that didn't have it, too.
jm
Squidward
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Iirc
I'm no expert but if I recall correctly Russians before 1953 were not chrome lined.
I'm no expert but if I recall correctly Russians before 1953 were not chrome lined.
Oohrah
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Own both a Norinco and a Russian. About equal in accuracy (3 to 4" )
Scoped the Norinco and as someone said the looseness of the dust
cover may be the reason for only an improvement to around three inches.
Not really designed as a target with a mid range caliber, I suppose it does
what it does.:banghead: Operation like my Mini 14, none have jammed.
The Ruger in the .223 is also not noted as accurate rifle will average
2.5" groups with occasional better ones. Close up battle rifle would most
likely lean toward the SKSs Both SKS are chromed barrels.
Probably pick an all around rifle in a higher performance caliber
Scoped the Norinco and as someone said the looseness of the dust
cover may be the reason for only an improvement to around three inches.
Not really designed as a target with a mid range caliber, I suppose it does
what it does.:banghead: Operation like my Mini 14, none have jammed.
The Ruger in the .223 is also not noted as accurate rifle will average
2.5" groups with occasional better ones. Close up battle rifle would most
likely lean toward the SKSs
Both SKS are chromed barrels.Probably pick an all around rifle in a higher performance caliber
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