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The better Model 60?

Discussion in 'Handguns: Revolvers' started by Mastrogiacomo, Jan 17, 2005.

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The better gun

  1. Model 60 2"

    21 vote(s)
    38.9%
  2. Model 60 3"

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  1. Mastrogiacomo

    Mastrogiacomo Member

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    I'm thinking about which S&W to get. Should I opt for the 3" or 2" version? Thanks.
     
  2. Sistema1927

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    1) What will you use this revolver for?

    2) Which meets your needs better?
     
  3. Mastrogiacomo

    Mastrogiacomo Member

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    Right now, just for the range probably and the home. However, I'd like to get a revolver that would work with carry when I get to the point when I'm able. I'm not sure if I should just build on my 3" revolver collection or get a good snubbie first.
     
  4. Black Snowman

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    Personally I really like the 3" guns and I think the 60 is a tad big and heavy for most pocket carry so might as well get the extra inch of sight radius and a few more FPS. If around the house it's going to be in a pocket holster then get the 2".

    JMHO, YMMV, etc . . . ;)
     
  5. Mastrogiacomo

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    Since carrying doesn't appear to be an option right now, I'm leaning towards the 3" as I think I might be more accurate with the longer barrel. I do current own a Detective Special, so maybe I should just concentrate on the 3" revolvers?
     
  6. Old Fuff

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    If I understand correctly, you have or are getting a Colt Detective Special. This should take care of your snubby needs. For the purposes you outlined a 3-inch model 36 would be the better choice; but take a hint and get some larger grips, unless the revolver you get happens to come with some. They only increase the size of the gun slightly, but make a big difference when it comes to shooting. Think along the lines of what I believe is on the Colt.

    Also be aware that because they aren't as popular as the short snub-gun length the 3-inch guns are often found on the used market for less. Something you should take advantage of.
     
  7. Mastrogiacomo

    Mastrogiacomo Member

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    I have the Colt DS. I was thinking of getting a three inch revolver, namely for my father whose hands sometimes makes racking the auto slide difficult.
     
  8. sm

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    As Usual - Old Fuff nailed it.

    Another tidbit is the extraction is more positive with a longer rod on the 3" .

    That little bit of bbl is not really a problem , the cylinder is, so is the grip.

    Akin to a full size 1911 versus a Commander size, the bbl length is negligible - that stock / grip area is the same.

    Carry cash, play dumb, and 3" RB guns will follow you home. Good holster and belt for carry...you will not have a problem in carrying.

    Your dad will find the 3" "balances better and shoots better" than it is supposed to. He "might" let you shot it after he shoots it ...if you are a really good daughter...I mean really good. Like buy lunch . :D
     
  9. Mastrogiacomo

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    I'll probably get the three inch in the GP-100 and model 60 and let him choose which one he likes better. Knowing my father, I might not see either revolver again.... :eek:
     
  10. Ala Dan

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    If I understand correctly you are speaking of the new S&W model 60
    in .357 magnum, correct? If so please allow me to add another choice
    to the mix. How about the hammerless model 640 .357 magnum from our
    friends at Smith & Wesson? At the shop where I work, we have both the
    model 60 and the 640 NIB; and this really would be a tough decision for
    me. I don't think barrel length would really matter that much; and weight
    is within one-half once of each other.

    BTW, we also just got in a NIB Ruger KGP-141 in the new darker gun
    metal gray finish. This thing is a beauty in its own right! :D

    I sometimes carry an older (79-80 vintage) Smith model 60 in .38 SPL.
    With the rubber bantam grips, it makes for an excellent carry piece.
    I also just acquired a 2" factory nickel S&W model 10 from late 1972
    or very early 1973, that has seen duty laying in a dresser draw for
    the last 12-15 years. Its been shot very little, as there is NO cylinder
    ring formed yet. For $150 OTD, you can't beat it! ;)

    Best Wishes,
    Ala Dan, N.R.A. Life Member
     
  11. Mastrogiacomo

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    Thanks for the recommendation, Ala. I don't particular care much for the hammerless, double action guns. I sold my 442 for that reason. I like the hammer as it allows me to really modify my practice at the range and gives me the option to using the single action only if I choose.

    I have shot the Ruger you mention -- it really is sweet but as I have the 4" 686, I'd like to go with a 3" barrel this time. Also, I'm sure it'll work better for my Dad. I know I'll like which ever revolver he rejects... :D
     
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  13. Mastrogiacomo

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    I'll be sticking with the 3" thanks. :p BTW, I did check out the 640, how hard is it to pull the double action gun and who could I send it to lighten the trigger if I went that route?
     
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    One important difference in the 2" and 3" barrels is ejection of the spent cartridges, the 2" barrel model will not clear empty 357 cases from the cylinder for reloading, the ejector is too short, the 3" will, if you need to reload in a hurry that is a tremendous difference.
     
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    Mastrogiacomo -

    My wife has a .357 Mag 640 which has had a trigger job - very smooth, non-staging pull of about 4-5 pounds. Very easy to shoot accurately.
     
  16. Mastrogiacomo

    Mastrogiacomo Member

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    Where did she send the gun for work? Was it expensive?
     
  17. Old Fuff

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    This is an example of an older S&W model 36 with a 3 inch barrel. Notice the grips, that has changed the small round butt to a larger square butt configuration. While the revolver is slightly bigger it is much easier to hold onto and shoot - especially in double action. One drawback of the J-frame guns is the small handle, which while easier to conceal make the gun harder to control during recoil. This is one answer when circumstances don't require concealment, although it works fine out of a IWB holster.
     
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    Old buddy old pal, old mentor...*ahem*

    Err..umm...err..I took a "glance" at that there 36, I think you should really send that one to me...for learning purposes of course.

    Noticed the stocks, thumb latch...blue...some other stuff too...puhleeese. :D
     
  19. Old Fuff

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    Oh no ...

    You wouldn't want it ... Really ...

    The former owner begged me to take it, seeing that it wasn't rated for ++++P ammunition and had that unpopular barrel in addition to being blued. I plan to polish all of that off and tell everyone its stainless - until it starts turning brown.

    Those grips came from CDNN Investments, and were expensive ... something like $2.95 as I remember - but I might be wrong. Shipping/handling is $10.00 by the way, so I was forced to buy several pairs ...

    The reason they are so light is because I'm in the process of refinishing them. They'll be darker when I get done.

    You are much better off with that old K-frame you've got. This one only holds 5 cartridges, and that's hardly tactical in anybody's book. Why what will I do if I get jumped by 25 or 30 of those drug and people running border jumpers?? (Answer: quickly withdraw under fire). And do you have any idea what it's like to be caught in public asking for an IWB holster for a (gasp) 3 inch J-frame??

    No, I couldn't live with myself if I stuck you with it. If the word got out my reputation would be mud ... :evil: :D

    Now Tuner on the other hand .... :evil: :evil: :scrutiny:
     
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    Mastro, for any revolver action work, my unvarying recommendation is Clark Custom Guns. I've had several revolvers treated with their Service Action Job, and it's wonderfully good. They're not cheap, but then, you get what you pay for!
     
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    Old Fuff.

    If you'll send me that ugly old Model 36 I'll only charge you $5 to take it off your hands.

    You know how fragile and undersirable those old flat latch guns are. They're just not very tactacal. What with them being made out of that old fashioned heavy steel instead of one of these new wonder-metals.
     
  22. sm

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    Forgive me. Seems as if the Old Fuff is - once again - being his usual Reprobate Self. :D

    Being as I am on " Probationary Reprobate Status" ...err... I may be a few years younger than the Reprobate...but I ain't that stupid. OH I have LOTs to learn...I admit that- I may be dumb - not stupid.

    There is that something spl about a 3" that handling "reveals", besides the extraction and all.

    See I too have taken a set of stocks, used a knife to whittle to tweak the fit, used emery to smooth before finshing out. Notice how those stocks in Reprobate's pic fill the gap b/t grip and trigger guard? There is a reason , same one folks use Tyler's .

    I always recommend folks buy the newfangled stuff, with uber capacity in uber materials...oh part is the Reprobate dealie....and mostly because I am selfish and want the OLD guns for me...

    Old Fuff forgot I know how to bribe, lie and decieve. Lets see...do I start with Fried Pies, or the Pic Of Sophie Loren ? :evil:
     
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    I've got and use both. The 2" is great for the pocket, the 3" is better for everything else.
     
  24. Old Fuff

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    BluesBear:

    I would do as you request, but I regard you much too highly to stick you with this obviously over-the-hill revolver when it would be much better if you obtained something made from the latest "wondermetal" (plastic polymer or whatever). These at least you can load with somebody's "Super Ultra-Magnum Max-Blaster ammunition that will stop a B.G. if it passes within a half-mile of said person. As it is, you would have to actually hit your intended target, and that wouldn't be tactical unless you taped a flashlight to the barrel. However I do appreciate your generous offer. :uhoh:

    Sm:

    For the reasons stated above I must also decline your suggestions, although your last words clearly indicate how far you are willing to go to obtain this piece of antique firearms technology. I should have never posted the picture, but in a moment of weakness I decided to showcase the grips to illustrate that these little revolvers can be much more controllable if the user has something more to hold on to. I am devastated to learn that you might be doing the same sort of thing, and to prevent any more of this unfortunate behavior I suggest you move to the U.K. where handguns are banned (except for criminals of course) and I understand that “knife control†isn’t far behind. There you may be able to obtain counseling and treatment to overcome your distasteful propensity to whittle on wood handgun grips and other probable bad habits. :evil: :D
     
  25. sm

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    Sorry man- ain't gonna happen. :D

    You are just upset I used hand methods to tweak the fit on the stocks instead of grabbing a Dremel tool or the Foredom Flexshaft. I Had to learn hand methods to finish metals...granted the Dremel was not even around back then - the Foredom was though. Still it too a l-o-n-g time before I was allowed to even touch a powered tool.

    I know you were testing me - probably a "pop quiz' on this Probationary Status you have bestowed upon me.

    FYI - I may be able to rid another poor soul of an antiquated steel wheel gun.
    I have selling the fire out the "custom" grip screws for Glocks, Keltecs, and other such polymer one pc frame guns.

    If you build it - they will buy it. :evil:
     
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