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the BP mouseguns club.

Discussion in 'Blackpowder' started by Busyhands94, May 20, 2011.

  1. Busyhands94

    Busyhands94 Senior Member

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    Very nice set of pistols!
     
  2. kBob

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    Levi,

    Now there is your next project, scale up that NAA Smoke Gnat loading tool to be used on your big Remmie. Clean up the design by playing with it and sell them. For that matter go ahead and build one for the 63 Remmie as the major problem with the Piettas is supposedly the loading system breaking as it is tiny. DO LET ME KNOW how that works out as I a getting tired of the mallet loading system. I seat the balls level with a mallet to cut the lead rings on the Single Aught buck shot then after all that work is done finish seating them on the pistol with the loading lever.

    -kBob
     
  3. 72coupe

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    Does this tiny thing qualify?
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    It looks a lot bigger in this picture than it really is.
     
  4. MCgunner

    MCgunner Senior Member

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    Aweful big mouse. Sure that ain't a kangaroo?
     
  5. MCgunner

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    Mine's a brasser, but I did, for the heck of it, chrono a 60 grain conical at 900 fps with a full compressed charge of 777. A steel gun could shoot it all day long, but I'm not sure about the brasser even though it's a Remmy. If I had to carry the gun, I'd go for it, though. :D That bullet has a very sharp point, should penetrate well. I got the mold from Dixie Gun Works years ago, brass mold, casts one RB and one conical. More often than not, when i shoot it, I just shoot 00 buck over pyrodex. :D
     
  6. Busyhands94

    Busyhands94 Senior Member

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    What does the pyrodex get? I think Lee makes a mold for .31 revolver conicals, I have seen one guy on Youtube load his with hollow base wadcutters, from what I could tell they looked pretty heavy and would do some major damage if they hit a bad guy.
     
  7. MCgunner

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    Pryodex gives me something over 700fps, close to 800 with a ball.
     
  8. 72coupe

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    McGunner I can wrap my hand around the cylinder and frame and my index finger and thumb touch. I can't do that with any other revolver I have seen.

    It is 36 caliber but still a very small pistol. Its that 6 1/2 inch barrel that makes it look big. Amazingly accurate, even I can keep 5 shots in the black at 25 yards on the rapid fire pistol target.
     
  9. MCgunner

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    I guess the jury is out on the definition of a "mouse gun" in BP terms. :D I generally think of NAAs, .25ACPs, .32 Seecamps, NAA Guardians, P3ATs, etc, but stop short of subcompact 9s and snubby .38s when I think of "mouse guns" in the traditional sense. And, hey, I ain't one to be exclusive. :D
     
  10. gym

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    Now do you fellas carry these BP guns for self defense, if so are they reliable. And what about the ammo, is it a stopper, or does it depend on the type of led mixture used. I have no idea what the capabilaties of these weapons are so excuse my ignorance. Always open to new things, I thought they were more for collectors than shooting. But every day I find I know less than the day before.
     
  11. romel

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    This is my Colt 1849 Pocket of the Uberti, 3" barrel
     

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    Romel that thing is really short! Do you load the cylnder off the gun?
     
  13. RevolvingGarbage

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    Heres my pocket poofer,

    Iver Johnson Safety Hammerless (1898), .38S&W
     

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    Am i small 'nuf ?
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    pocket pistols

    Here are my entries 2 colt 1849 pocket pistols & a Wesson & Leavitt early model pre colt lawsuit.
     

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    BADUNAME30 Senior Member

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    Jist great. I had to go and open this thread.
    I now know that ENABLERS come in all sizes.
     
  17. Busyhands94

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    Romel, RevolvingGarbage, wap41 and Jim... you're all in the club! :)

    Guess I should post my latest BP mousegun here. It's an old Iver & Johnson American Bulldog second model. It is chambered in .32 S&W, but will handle BP .32 Longs just fine. The name "American Bulldog" is rather fitting, as this gun sounds like a dang .38 Special!

    The story behind this piece? It was bought back in the late 1800's by a gentleman who used it to defend himself from a criminal. So somebody might have actually been killed with this gun, kind of macabre! So after that was over appearantly the po-po chief at the time took it from the crime scene, but didn't steal it. He later gave this revolver to the seller's great grandfather. His great grandfather carried this handgun as a train conductor, and later gave it to the seller's father. His father kept it on a shelf with a box of bullets in the drawer when the seller what a kid. If he or any of his siblings touched it, they'd get the belt or mum's hickory switch. Now that's good parenting.
    Then later on when the seller's dad went home to our eternal father, the seller put it on Armslist so he could buy a new Sig Saur. I bought it for $100 IIRC.

    The next owner of the gun would be me. When I got it, it was double action only. So I made a new sear spring. There was a HUGE cylinder gap, so I tightened this revolver up. The cylinder wouldn't rotate everytime you pulled the trigger, so I made a nice shiny new hand for this revolver out of steel and hardened it. I shoot this piece all the time. She's 114 years old and this gun is still being loved and well cared for. And shot! :D
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    I got a breaktop that should be here next week too. It's a Thayer Robinson and Cary in .32 S&W.
     
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    This .22 C&B bar hammered DAO pepperbox is the most mouse-worthy one I've got.
    Haven't played with it in years. Regular percussion caps don't fit the nipples without squeezing them down a lot and I always had a lot of ignition trouble with it...I've always had a sneaking suspicion that there is a particular toy capgun cap that's supposed to fit.
     

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  19. Busyhands94

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    I have seen those Gold Rush .22 pepperboxes, and have always wanted to get one! They do look like they might need to be played around with, but I bet with some modifications you could get it to fire reliably.
     
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    I've been trying to find out what the capacity is for the .31 pocket pistols. How much 3F can a full chamber (Rem and Colt) hold?
     
  21. wap41

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    .31 cal load

    13 gr of fff is recomended
     
  22. rodwha

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    But what is it's max? Were you to fill the chamber what could it hold?

    I really like the 1863, but wonder if it can do more than punch holes in paper or water bottles. I like the 1863 over the 1862 by a small margin.
     
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    I hope this thread goes on far ! I'll join as soon as I can post a picture of my home made,totally from scratch, .25 cal bp pistol. I always wanted to make one without the help of getting a kit or buying parts like a trigger or barrel/stock etc. * Hey Levi you should post a picture of that cool little bp pistol you made a while back (the one you showed on YT that you took apart and assembled.I thought that was pretty slick to make that. ron
     
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    Ron: What do you feed your homemade .25? What kind of powder capacity does it have? Cool!
     
  25. Busyhands94

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    Raa-7, are you talking these little BB shooters?
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    I still love to play with these. You can shoot BB's with caps, or a pinch of birdshot! ;)
     

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