The Bush Administration's Support for Gun Control

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It is nice to see partisian differences being put aside for the good of the country.:mad:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/01/24/uk-ordered-to-make-blair_n_83011.html
The Bush Administration's Support for Gun Control
By Paul Hemke

More evidence emerged this month that the gun debate is turning a corner in America.

Only days after signing the first gun control legislation in over a decade, the Bush Administration has now disavowed the most extreme outcomes implicit in the gun lobby's view of the Second Amendment.

In its brief in the D.C. v. Heller case pending in the U.S. Supreme Court, the Bush Administration acknowledges that because of the "unquestionable threat to public safety that unrestricted private firearm possession would entail" that "various categories of firearm-related regulation are permitted by the Second Amendment."

The Brady Center welcomes this surprising development. It demonstrates the problem with the "private purpose" interpretation of the Second Amendment. This view might have sounded good politically to the Ashcroft Justice Department [pdf], but now the Bush Administration realizes that the lower-court decision could "cast doubt on the constitutionality of" common-sense gun control laws like the "federal machine gun ban," the restrictions on firearm possession by felons, and the licensing of gun dealers.

Rather than defend the long-standing view of virtually every Federal court - that the Second Amendment has an obvious militia purpose, and is no barrier to the adoption of gun control laws by legislative bodies responsible for providing public safety and for weighing competing views on the effectiveness of and need for such laws - the Bush Administration brief proposes a "heightened scrutiny" test when the gun control law "has no grounding in Framing-era practice."

This test would consider the "practical impact" on the individual ("including the nature and practical adequacy of the available alternatives") and the "strength of the government's interest in enforcement of the relevant restriction."

This case-by-case approach would permit "Second Amendment doctrine to develop in an incremental and prudent fashion," according to the Bush Administration. Judges in different parts of the country could presumably reach different decisions on similar gun control restrictions based on the different law enforcement challenges in those communities.

Do we really want judges making those decisions rather than democratically-elected legislative bodies? Nine national police organizations have joined the Brady Center's brief [pdf] defending the pre-Heller state of Second Amendment law, which gave this power to communities.

Police and mayors and district attorneys (all of whom are on briefs supporting the District of Columbia) know that gun control laws that make it harder for dangerous people to get dangerous weapons help keep their communities safe.

The Second Amendment should not be a barrier to the adoption of sensible gun laws that help save lives. We're glad that the Bush Administration seems to agree.
 
I'm a conservative and voted for Bush twice...
This would not be the first time Bush has betrayed us all...

:banghead: Pushed for Amnesty for Illegals (aka Compressive Immigration Reform)

:banghead: Allowing Mexican Trucks on US Highways taking jobs from American Truckers.

:banghead: Not Pardoning Border Patrol Agents Ramos and Compean and letting them Rot 23hrs a day in Solitary Confinement.

:banghead: Trying to destroy Americas sovereignty with the North American Union or SPP.

:banghead: Spending money like a drunk sailor on a 3 day pass.

:banghead: And the list goes on and on and on...
 
Bush has been waging a war against the Bill of Rights ever since September 11th, using the horrific events on that day as an excuse to assault the Constitution.

Why should we be surprised when he goes after the 2A? He's already gone after all the others...
 
I'm a conservative and voted for Bush twice...

Don't feel bad.I did much worse.Voted for James Earl Carter in 1976 and Bill Clinton in 1992.
My wife tried to warn me both times.
As I was still in my Moderate,Bleeding Heart Mode,I didn't listen.
She still reminds me every Prez election year of my stupidity.
 
I never voted for GWB. I thank god I never did. What a waste of eight years

Did you vote for Al(I invented the Internet and alerted the World to Global Warming)Gore instead?
Would that have been a better waste of eight years?
 
:banghead:Not Pardoning Border Patrol Agents Ramos and Compean and letting them Rot 23hrs a day in Solitary Confinement.

That is actually my single biggest reason for being very upset with him currently. I can understand the desire to appease both sides of the fence along the amnesty line. I don't agree with it, but if his line of thinking is that "they are here, and our economy would collapse if they were kicked out" is not that far off of the truth.

However, no one in his administration has even commented on the Ramos and Compean situation, and I am positive they are very aware of it. He is putting the message out there that we will NOT be enforcing our borders whatsoever while he is in office.

If the 2 agents were wrong in what they did, they should have been fired for sure, but 12 year in solitary away from their families for PROTECTING OUR G***AMN BORDERS?! In my opinion those men were heroes for doing something I wouldn't have the balls to do (combating illegal mexican drug cartels), and Bush's administration hasn't even given a reason why he will not pardon them.

And don't tell me that it is not a big enough issue for him to address personally, because as I stated it affects the whole southern border with Mexico.
 
in before lock

maybe this is Bushie's way of reddeming himself to the public at large before leaving office.
 
Cmdr. Gravez0r is correct if we don't keep this one between the lines and out of the ditch. Stay on topic.

Think before you post.
 
I've had enough of the past 16 years of bush/clinton regimes. If we elect hillary it will just be another 4 or 8 wasted years.
 
E-mail sent:

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Dear Mr. President:

Shame on you. SHAME!

Your Department of Justice has just submitted a brief to the Supreme Court in the Heller case supporting the "right" of the government to impose numerous (unspecified) regulations on firearms use and ownership in the United States.

SHAME!

Please review your oath of office. Please review the Constitution of the United States, in particular the Second Amendment, and then read the report prepared on the subject of the Second Amendment by the Department of Justice shortly before Mr. Ashcroft's resignation.

The Second Amendment is crystal clear: The right of the People to keep and bear arms SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED. What is a regulation if not an infringement? The government cannot "regulate" a right without infringing that right. The Second Amendment is clear and unambiguous. It is incomprehensible that a Republican President would or could allow his Department of Justice to openly attack the very Constitution you swore an oath to protect and defend.

In the name of America, I call on you to instruct your Department of Justice to withdraw that brief. It is unacceptable to "the People."

Very truly yours,
{Aguila Blanca} (Veteran)
 
Well you did vote for him. I TOLD YOU SO.

See what voting for the lessor of two evils gets you.
 
President Bush-- Please Read

I do solemnly swear that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States."

This is your oath of office, which you have sworn before the American people on two occasions. I added emphasis. I wish you would do the same. If the Solicitor General's brief in D.C. vs Heller is truly the best of your ability, may God help us.
 
I find it really ironic that the media has been letting up a tad recently (i.e. the guard or whatever she was at the church wasn't labeled as a redneck murderer), my military friends don't like guns and only tolerate having to qualify with an M-9, and a republican from Texas is promoting gun control...I think the end is near.

In before the lock.
 
I voted for Bush once! Second time I'd seen enough and voted Constitution Party with a clear conscience. I may be force into doing so again.

I had hoped Bush would have been better but he's showing us his true colors and he...

aww.. I better hold my tongue about him and other liberals.


Too bad America it was nice knowin' ya!
 
"various categories of firearm-related regulation are permitted by the Second Amendment."

Where the F*** do you get right to regulate out of right to keep and bear arms?!?!?!:banghead::fire::fire::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::cuss::cuss::cuss::cuss::cuss:
 
I'm voting for a republican, Bogie - Ron Paul. He's the only one, though.

Biker
 
Well the fruit never falls far from the tree. George Bush senior joined the NRA to get elected then turned against them after election. Alot of bad things was said about senior and his son isn't about to forgive and forget. I still believe we are in Iraq because Sadam tried to kill senior an junior wanted revenge, and got it.

I look for real drastic gun control measures before Bush leaves office. I hate to say it but Bush will prove me right.

jj
 
Not a day goes by that I don't feel ever better about not voting for Bush in 2004, and I lived in a state with only two choices.

No, I didn't vote for Kerry, either.

It sure is nice not having to shave with my eyes closed.
 
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