What do they put in the water up there? First it's the usual Daley assault on the second amendment:
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=179799
Then they want to ban anything that looks like a military weapon:
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=180333
Now a few months after passing a law giving all communities the right to ban smoking in public, we get a bill to just go ahead and ban it state wide:
http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/ne...A5ACF9B4197851AE8625710F001F718D?OpenDocument
Ok, I don't smoke, I never have. But this is a freedom issue. Why is it the government's business? I don't like being in smoke filled environments, so I don't patronize them. If a businessman wants my patronage, he either has a smoking area away from the area I'm going to use, or he has a nice ventilation system that makes it not noticable. That's the way it's supposed to be, let the market decide. It's none of the government's business.
What's next for the Chicago delegation, a restart of prohibition so the graft money will flow to them even faster then it does now?
Oh, I forgot about the bill to raise the driving age, because some teenagers were killed in a traffic accident where they already had broken the graduated drivers license law and the curfew law ( a person under 17's drivers license isn't valid after the curfew (11pm Sun-Thur, 12am Fri-Sat). Yeah that's the ticket, let's just pass another law to keep that from happening, so in the news articles we can say the poor teenagers broke three laws instead of two...:banghead:
Where do you guys in Chicagoland find these people?
Jeff
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=179799
Then they want to ban anything that looks like a military weapon:
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=180333
Now a few months after passing a law giving all communities the right to ban smoking in public, we get a bill to just go ahead and ban it state wide:
http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/ne...A5ACF9B4197851AE8625710F001F718D?OpenDocument
Illinois may take back smoking decision
By Kevin McDermott
POST-DISPATCH SPRINGFIELD BUREAU
02/07/2006
SPRINGFIELD, ILL.
Illinois legislators re-lit on Tuesday the debate over public smoking, advancing a measure to ban cigarettes in Illinois restaurants and other public places - barely a month after granting local communities the power to decide the issue for themselves.
"It's our responsibility to protect the whole state. . . . We cannot ignore the fact that lives continue to be lost due to secondhand smoke," said state Rep. Annazette Collins, D-Chicago.
Collins' statewide smoking-ban bill won a House committee vote Tuesday night, even as communities around Illinois ponder whether to take advantage of the new state law giving local governments authority to institute their own bans.
That law, which went into effect Jan. 1, would be superseded by the new measure, if it wins approval from the House, Senate and Gov. Rod Blagojevich.
The bill would phase in, over two years, a mandatory, near-total ban of all smoking in restaurants, bars, bowling alleys, casino riverboats and all other indoor public places. The smoking ban also would apply to a 15-foot radius outside the entrances of such places.
The new smoking-ban push Tuesday immediately tipped the fragile truce that smoking and anti-smoking forces reached last year, with the passage of the law that put the issue in the hands of local communities.
"You folks have placed your faith in local government officials, and you're not giving it time to work," Steve Riedel, executive director of the Illinois Licensed Beverage Association, told the House Health Care Availability and Access committee Tuesday.
Since the earlier law went into effect allowing local bans, Chicago and Springfield have enacted such ordinances. Several other communities have considered and rejected them, and others are still under debate.
The new local power has been almost completely ignored in Southern Illinois and the Metro East area.
"Downstate Illinois is against (mandatory) smoking bans. The rest of the state has very little interest in instituting smoking bans," said Garnet Dawn, Midwest director for the Smokers Club Inc., a national smokers' rights group.
She said the fact that so few Illinois communities had used their new smoking-ban powers was the best indication available that a mandatory statewide ban would go against the wishes of most Illinoisans. State legislators "are ignoring what the communities want," she said.
Anti-smoking advocates say it's a public health issue, and as such shouldn't be left to the whims of local politics to decide which restaurant employees and patrons are protected and which aren't.
By some estimates, second-hand smoke kills 50,000 Americans a year. Tuesday's committee hearing included emotional testimony about lung-cancer patients who never smoked but apparently developed the disease from their workplaces.
"Too many non-smokers are forced to cope," said Dr. Craig Backs, president of the Illinois State Medical Society, who appeared at a news conference supporting the new legislation. "Unless we make Illinois completely smoke-free, a large number of Illinoisans remain at risk."
But others say the debate has strayed from just health issues into debates over local autonomy and personal choice.
The view appeared to be supported by the scene Tuesday at the Stagger Inn in downtown Edwardsville, where a table of four men - all non-smokers - put up with the smoke smell of the place to keep their weekly lunch gathering. All agreed they would not support a statewide ban, saying individual businesses should decide whether to allow smoking.
"I think a lot of people wouldn't like it," said Patty Hughes, a non-smoker who manages the bar and restaurant.
For communities such as Collinsville, which hasn't yet debated a local ban, a statewide ban would have the potentially convenient effect of taking local politicians off the hot seat.
"Someone else making the decision is always good," joked Mayor Stan Schaeffer.
But Schaeffer said area residents - even non-smokers such as himself -would probably have philosophical problems with it. "I would think they would believe the decision shouldn't be taken away from the local community," he said.
Other opponents include the casino riverboat industry, which estimates that it could lose 20 percent of its business if boats such as the Casino Queen of East St. Louis had to go smokeless, and lost customers to Missouri boats.
The bill passed the committee 6-4 with one voting present, and now goes to the full House.
The bill is HB4338.
Leah Thorsen of the Post-Dispatch staff contributed to this story.
Ok, I don't smoke, I never have. But this is a freedom issue. Why is it the government's business? I don't like being in smoke filled environments, so I don't patronize them. If a businessman wants my patronage, he either has a smoking area away from the area I'm going to use, or he has a nice ventilation system that makes it not noticable. That's the way it's supposed to be, let the market decide. It's none of the government's business.
What's next for the Chicago delegation, a restart of prohibition so the graft money will flow to them even faster then it does now?
Oh, I forgot about the bill to raise the driving age, because some teenagers were killed in a traffic accident where they already had broken the graduated drivers license law and the curfew law ( a person under 17's drivers license isn't valid after the curfew (11pm Sun-Thur, 12am Fri-Sat). Yeah that's the ticket, let's just pass another law to keep that from happening, so in the news articles we can say the poor teenagers broke three laws instead of two...:banghead:
Where do you guys in Chicagoland find these people?
Jeff