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The Clunker Photo

Discussion in 'Blackpowder' started by kBob, Jul 14, 2008.

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  1. kBob

    kBob Member

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    If everything worked there should be an attached photo of The Clunker.

    Finally found an ancient battery that would take a charge this am and dashed out to get the morning light.

    I did some fence work over the week end and it gave me the idea for this layout. I call it, "Gone Swimming at the Stock Pond"

    The staples and posts are some products from the fence chores, the knife was made by a friend as one of his earlist kit attempts, the figs came off one of my trees close to the picture site and the hankies out of my hip pocket and glove box of the truck......and of course, The Clunker.

    Man, am I going to be embarrassed if this doesn't work!

    -Bob Hollingsworth
     

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  2. Voodoochile

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    A fine looking piece you have there.
     
  3. shevrock

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    That's a really nice looking gun.
     
  4. mykeal

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    Nice gun and picture both.

    The staples are a bit lost on the red cloth; I'd have put them on the wood plank above the gun so they'd stand out better.

    But, excellent idea about composition and very nice execution with lighting.
     
  5. kBob

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    Thanks guys, complamients are always welcome....

    ....as are constructive critisisms of my photography.:)

    Thanks mykeal. I considered using some of the new staples but thought the rusty ones may look more rustic as well as rusty. I have galvanized staples and also was concerned that they might be a bright annoyance and distract attention from the subject. Almost did that with the fence tool. Somewhere I have a fence tool that is smaller and age browned but gosh if I know where!

    Photo was best of five as I was in a hurry to get the shots.

    Here are the next bests, including a shot from an angle.

    -Bob Hollingsworth
     

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  6. arcticap

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    And here's the photo that kBob didn't want to show us of him cooling off down at the stock pond.
    Now kBob, how do you call that swimming? :neener:

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  7. scrat

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    you know that really is not that bad
     
  8. arcticap

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    BTW, I like the pictures too, especially the knife being in the background.
    Could you show us the rest of the knife? :)
     
  9. shevrock

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    That's a good way to get leeches. o.0
     
  10. Packman

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    Nice pics, but just a thought...I know it's a knife, because a) you said so, and b) I look at a lot of knives, but you sort of lose the point (no pun intended) by not showing the whole knife. I'd say back out a bit next time. Or maybe move the knife down to an angle instead of vertical. Diagonals are dynamic, after all. (Oh, if only my photo teacher could hear me now.)
     
  11. kBob

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    Well like I said it was one of Bill's earlist metal projects, like when he was in college....he recently retired from the USAF and is a manufacture oth things requiring federal tax stamps today and does much better work. The grip does not look as nice regaurding how it is attached as one might hope. I have considered camaflauging his efforts with shortened cutlery rivets glued (epoxied)over his screws.

    If I get another chance to play with the camera this week, I will try to post a picture or two featuring it.

    -Bob Hollingsworth
     
  12. kBob

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    ....and a better knife shot

    Since folks asked here is a shot of the knife from the earlier photos.

    I believe the knife was a "kit" or "parts" from Jantz Supply. He originally cold blued the blade, but appearently did only one coat on a cold or room temperature balde. I have used it to dig in the garden with, cut weeds with, cut a couple of pieces of fence wire, and split kindling. The grips are smooth and very broomstick feeling and slick. He appearently used epoxy of some sort to fill the holes the bolt and nuts used to hold the thing together required. The wood is pretty and I think he said they are actually rosewood. The knife usually stays near the fireplace for last minute slitting for fire starting. The sheath is not shown as it is a crude nylon affair. I have been "gonna" cutt up some old boots in the shop for about fifteen years and cobble up some sort of leather holder for it. Been playing with a stitching awl of late repairing some horse stuff and belts.

    To keep it Black Powder and prevent folks from yelling "Knife! Take it to Non Firearms Weapons!" I have included a black powder cartridge revolver. It is a pinfire 9mm of Euro make that at some point wsa perverted.....um, converted to .38 SW. It was of course carried by a confederate officer of high reguard.:D Actually the story indicated the person that gave it to me ( as in here you might like this) had been told it was used by some ones great great in the War of Northern Aggression, then Great gave it to the field boss to reduce elmloyees fear of Rattlers and Cotton Mouths, that feild boss gave it to son, son could not find ammernition for it and had it locally converted, his son got drunk and grand pa took it away from him, removed the firing pin and gave it to the kids as a toy. If a word of it beyound that last phrase is true I would be amazed. Grip looks awful so its out of the shot.

    The other stuff in the shot are pecans from my tree, a hoof pick for the horse and the wood plank "paving" infront of my polebarn. Light is natural morning and back lighting/fill was provided by hanging a white towel over a set of mounting block steps ( Susan needed steps to get up on the horse when expecting) just out of the picture. I continue to use the older Sony Cyber shot 1.3meg because I like it.

    -Bob Hollingsworth
     
  13. kBob

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    really the picture this time

    Blast during my longwinded post THR timed out and I dropped the attachment when resigning in.

    Let's try again.

    -Bob Hollingsworth
     

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    You really know how to take a beautiful picture, especially by making it look like you used the knife to crack open that pecan.
    Mmmmm, it looks mighty tasty too! :)

    Maybe you shot those pecans right out of the tree with your revolver? Naw! That would be a waste of bullets. You must be hanging around that nut tree just to see if you can shoot a few pecan pilfering squirrels. :D
     
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  15. kBob

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    @#&**@#!!!!

    Or words to that effect.

    The new cylinder bolt stop dropped right in.

    Worked with the gun broke down to the frame with other parts.

    new trigger/bolt stop spring was too long to allow trigger to function.

    trigger spring screw fit perfect.

    Filed off a hair or two width of the trigger leg of the too long spring.

    Worked by hand using thumb to put pressure on the hammer.

    Assembled gun.

    Hammer over rides trigger (but timing seems great, if all I want to do is slip shoot or fan and I don't do either)

    Might I have ruined the temper on the trigger/ bolt spring with a few minutes of filing with a fine file?

    Dixie Charged $7.50 P&H for those three parts. The billing folded to the same ssize as the parts envelope was thicker. The two specials news prints were MUCH larger and everything came in a 6x3x2 inch box

    Over a quarter of the cost was shipping and handling.

    -Bob Hollingsworth
     
  16. mykeal

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    Nope.
     
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    Had a few minutes to drag out the clunker yesterday.

    It appears that the bolt spring is to long on the bolt side as well in that it presses on the bolt very near the axis of the screw. I tried bending it but the hump in the spring still bares very close to the axis of the pin.

    On closer examoination the bottom of the grip frame is shorter than the Cabela's 1851 brass .44, the frame is shorter, the cylinder is shorter.

    As stated before other than italian proofs for year XXX the only unique marking is "COM" in a rectangle under the loading leaver on the lower barrel flat.

    Possibly this is something I am not going to find parts for.......

    I am considering cutting of the bolt spring hump and bending the dickens out of the resultant stub to place tension near the nose of the bolt directly under the bolt slot.

    Suggestions?

    -Bob Hollingsworth
     
  18. NobleSniper

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    Is that a Breveat Lefachuex in the background with the knife??
     
  19. whosyrdaddy

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    Based on this description, it sounds like you could have the spring installed upside down.
     
  20. kBob

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    NobleSniper,

    Its a 9mm and a Sybil Wurl Vet!

    The LeFrog (that's what I call it) has seen better days. It naturally came with a no detail story of having been used in the War Between the States which is absolutly not provable.

    The wood grips are con and replaced with what appears to be some sort of plastic, some one suggested it was melted clorox bottles poured into slugs and then filed down to more or less fit.

    At some point it was "convereted to .38 S&W ( not Special the old top break favorite) and a hole drilled through the breech face which has since been wallowed out. The nose of the hammer was cut off and the hammer reshaped to appearently take a S&W type firing pin wna retaining screw ( missing) and the main spring is broken. Oddly the timing still seemed dead on when a sliver of popsicle stick was duct taped to the tewo halves of the spring to allow the gun to "function"

    I keep meaning to whittle some better grips but have been discoraged with ever finding a workable replacement hammer and spring.

    Oh and it is missing its lanyard ring.

    The price was right. SOme one gave it too me.

    If there is interst I might beable to do some photos in the future (comming week is spring break for the kids so I will be busy)

    -Bob Hollingsworth
     
  21. kBob

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    whosyrdaddy,

    While I was born in Indiana my family quickly moved back to Florida.

    Nope, the long flat side of the spring goes on the trigger side and the short side with the hump goes on the bolt side. Unless my other 1851 repro-not works with the spring backwards.

    But I may try it backwards at this point......

    -Bob Hollingsworth
     
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    looks real nice to me.
     
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    kBob glad to know im not the only one here in the swamp. I like that pistol and I really like that knife. Been looking for something like that for a while now for a rig I am building for myself.
     
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    WOW those are beautiful!
     
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