The 'critical mass' attack

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I've fortunately never run into a cyclist(s) with this mentality. I'm willing to share the road with those that respect others safety.

In this incident had it been unprovoked for sure, I would have stayed in the car and tried to drive out if I could. If my car is being breached or it looks like it's going Knight Rider side wheelie, I'm making speed bumps. They have crossed the line.
 
http://critical-mass.info/origin.html
Seems like they pride themselves on breaking the law and causing trouble. Also seems like they don't believe in "share the road" so much as "get off the road, it's ours".


I had heard of trouble from these groups before on the news as shown through the wikipedia references. The confrontations are just bad ideas from CM people. Pepper spray and not leaving your vehicle (and only rolling the window down a little bit if you want to talk to them) seems like the best plan for such a situation.
 
I would like to give a quick viewpoint on Critical Mass. I am an avid cyclist, and ride my bike a lot. I also drive a lot too, when biking is impractical, giving me two viewpoints on the same issue. I have to say that as both a motorist, and a bicyclist, I hate what CM has become. When they started, it was about building awareness, and providing the safety of numbers to go on a bicycle ride in the streets legally. Now it’s a very in your face crowd that wants to go out and stick it to the autos, cause problems, and look like the victims.

I have watched more than one CM ride in Portland from an office window. They will swarm down a street blocking cars, they will roll right up to your car, I have seen them sit on hoods, taunt people through windows etc. I watched them do this to a family, the man driving started to honk when they were sitting on his hood, he was suddenly surrounded and they try to scare you. They were rocking his car, screaming that they were going to flip it over. He tried to inch forward, and they block his path and don’t move, as soon as he bumped into one of their bike tires, it was on. They began to beat on the car with everything they had. He floored it and got out, but they chased him for a while. I waited and the cops never showed up. This is what happens 99% of the time. You only hear about CM issues when it gets so bad that Police and Paramedics get involved.

From what I have seen, I would be more inclined to believe the drivers story. I have heard from others too, that they create a dangerous situation and when someone tries to leave, they let them “bump” into one of their bikes and then feel justified in utter and complete revenge.

This is the scary part, that using your car to force your way out of a bad situation is the correct choice, but its also the choice that makes you look bad on the news, when you run over poor bicyclists trying to have safer streets. Getting stuck in the middle of a CM ride in a car is one of my worst fears, I wont drive anywhere in Portland on the last Friday of the month. Its truly terrorism disguised as activism, and I hope the cops step up to stop it.
 
Its truly terrorism disguised as activism..

We have quite a lot of that around here (Seattle). We have "eco-terrorists' who burnt down newly built "green" houses because apparently they weren't "green" enough - thereby creating even more pollution. We have "animal rights" activists that burnt down a university research facility that had nothing to do with animal research.

And on and on...

Put 'em in jail and let 'em write their manifestos from there.
 
Hmmm...

These yahoos don't seem to have a chapter in Texas. At least not that I've heard of. I wonder why?
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actually several cities have them... Austin especially.
 
Here in FL, the Castle Doctrine extends to your car......with an angry mob, being assaulted and beaten, sure sounds like justifiable shooting time....[people] like that only doom their own cause....maybe they should start paying road taxes to be able to ride on them......
 
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I saw both the driver and the first guy hit by the car on the local news last evening.
The driver says he was afraid and he accidently popped his clutch causing him to lurch forward hitting a rider. This apparently started the attack frenzy full force.
The guy who got hit is a Seattle lawyer, appeared to be mid to late 30's. His bike was a twisted mess and he showed his road rash down the side of his leg and calf. He seemed like a nice and believable guy.
That being said, if he was just a "normal" rider who got caught up in this mess, then it should be a lesson to any other folks that if you get out there with this mob you may get injured or killed. They will continue to provoke this kind of thing until they are stopped by the law.
I think the driver showed a lot of restraint. In this type of situtation your car is really your only defense, he chose not to crush some riders to get out of there. The bike gang should be thanking him!!!!
 
The latest from the Seattle Times

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2008078611_criticalmass29m.html

Tuesday, July 29, 2008 - Page updated at 12:00 AM

Emotions still running high after Critical Mass confrontation

A local cycling advocate says participants in Seattle's monthly Critical Mass rides are doing more harm than good to the bicycling community, after a melee erupted Friday night in Seattle's Capitol Hill neighborhood. Now, drivers and cyclists are trading insults on local blogs and news sites.

By Sara Jean Green
Seattle Times staff reporter

It's supposed to be a rolling protest, a way to show a community just how many of its citizens use two wheels instead of four.

But one local cycling advocate says participants in Seattle's monthly Critical Mass rides are doing more harm than good to the bicycling community — and may even be pushing back efforts to smooth relations between motorists and cyclists.

"Critical Mass isn't doing Seattle any good — it's a rolling party," said Chris Cameron, director of the bicycle-commute program for the 10,000-member Cascade Bicycle Club. Critical Mass rides are held monthly in cities around the world to draw attention to cyclists' road rights.

A melee erupted Friday night in Seattle's Capitol Hill neighborhood between a motorist and a group of Critical Mass cyclists. The driver and cyclists blame each other for escalating the incident into a violent clash that sent two men to local hospitals, two men to jail and a battered Subaru Impreza to an impound yard with $1,500 in damages.

Since then, the fight has gone online, with drivers and cyclists trading venomous insults — and offering differing versions of events — on local blogs and news sites.

Depending on who you talk to, Mark, a 23-year-old travel agent who lives on the Eastside, is either the aggressor or the victim at the center of Friday's altercation. But Tom Braun, a Seattle attorney who was run over by Mark, said the cyclists didn't provoke the fight that started when Mark floored his Subaru into a group of people.

Mark, who asked that his last name not be published because he is afraid for his safety, said Monday he found himself and a friend in an unfamiliar part of Seattle about 7 p.m. Friday as they headed to pick up another friend to go out to dinner.

Mark said Monday that he saw the mass of bicyclists and thought he'd accidentally driven into the Seafair Torchlight Parade route, so he pulled into a parking spot along Aloha Street to allow them to pass. But he said when he tried to pull back into traffic, he was blocked by cyclists who positioned themselves around his vehicle.

He admits he was angry and frustrated at being delayed — but panic and fear soon took over as the cyclists started rocking his car, saying they were going to tip it over. Mark said he revved his engine but didn't think his car was in gear. After it stalled, he restarted the engine in order to get away but says he didn't realize he hit two cyclists.

"I completely panicked and I was scared," he said. "I just felt completely cornered and threatened."

But Braun, the injured attorney, said it was Mark whom he saw acting "aggressive and belligerent" when Braun, who had been riding at the back of the Critical Mass pack, crested a hill on Aloha Street.

The Subaru was parked perpendicular to the street, and was backed over a sidewalk and someone's front lawn, said Braun, 36. He stopped and stood straddling his bike to watch as the cyclists tried to calm the driver.

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"He was screaming the whole time and yelled something about being late for a [dinner] reservation — and he floors it, he literally floors it into a bunch of people and I took the brunt of it," he said.

A woman was also hit but jumped free, he said, and a man jumped onto the hood of the car to avoid being hit. But Braun — and his bike — got pulled beneath the vehicle.

"I was trying to hold onto the front and the bumper. I was pinned under the car, struggling for my life," he said. When Mark made a sharp left, a tire ran over Braun's right leg, but somehow, he managed to roll free of the car.

He didn't see what happened next.

But that's when, Mark said, he was mobbed by the cyclists, who shattered his windshield and rear window, dented the sides of his car, slashed his tires and tore off his driver's side mirror. As he stepped out of the Subaru, someone smashed something hard across the back of his head. He later learned it was likely a bike lock. Doctors stapled the wound closed.

"I didn't start the incident — they provoked it," Mark said. "I freaked out and overreacted. I should've turned my car off and waited for them to leave."

Mark said he thinks at least some of the Critical Mass riders were looking for a fight: "They were obviously equipped and intending to get in confrontations with motorists." Still, he's sorry others were hurt: "I want to apologize to the people I hit."

Though Braun declined medical treatment at the scene, he later went to the emergency room. No bones were broken but doctors are monitoring him for possible internal bleeding, Braun said.

A Seattle police report echoes Mark's version of events, but Braun said the officer who took his statement seemed to have already made up his mind "that this mob of crazy cyclists attacked this driver out of the blue." Even after hearing Braun's story, the officer told him: "Well, this is the way it's getting written up," Braun said.

Two cyclists — a 23-year-old and a 24-year-old — were booked into the King County Jail on suspicion of malicious harassment, a felony charge connected to the damage done to the Subaru. Both have since been released after posting $1,000 bonds, jail records show.

Seattle police are looking for a third man who is suspected of assaulting Mark with a bike lock, said police spokesman Mark Jamieson.

Like Braun, others who witnessed Friday's altercation are still shaken and say Mark should also be charged.

"I wish I didn't see this whole thing on Friday ... because it's terrifying to see someone intentionally driving into a group of bikers, and zooming off with a person on top of the car," wrote Esra, a Critical Mass participant, in an e-mail to The Seattle Times on Monday.

"I think tire slashing was a brilliant idea, but I wish nobody hit the driver on the head," wrote Esra, who asked that his last name not be published because of a fear of backlash. "I still believe, and will fight for it that driver wasn't the 'victim' and he started this whole mess, and he should be charged for what he did."

Jamieson said police commanders will look at how Critical Mass events are conducted. The investigation into Friday's incident is ongoing, and Jamieson couldn't say Monday whether Mark is likely to face charges.

Regardless of what happens in court, Cameron of the Cascade Bicycle Club said everyone involved behaved badly and is responsible for escalating the situation.

"The motorist should face charges, absolutely — he was in a 3,000-pound weapon that accelerated and hit somebody," Cameron said. "It was hooliganism on the cyclists' side, a mob mentality. They overreacted."

Still, he thinks tension between motorists and cyclists has actually decreased in recent years as drivers have become more accustomed to sharing the road with bicyclists.

Friday's clash "was an aberration," said Cameron. He said local Critical Mass rides haven't done anything to improve conditions for the riding public.

"It's kind of a merry pranksters event in Seattle versus the rolling protest I believe the original founders of the movement wanted to communicate," he said.

A Web site about Critical Mass events around the world — critical-mass.info — states that the monthly rides along urban streets are "intended to be a celebration, not an opportunity to cause trouble.

"Those who want to try to tie up traffic as much as possible and be confrontational with motorists are missing the point," the Web site states. "We can assert our right to the road without being rude about it. Focus on the ride, not on the cars that also happen to be on the road."

Sara Jean Green: 206-515-5654 or [email protected]
 
but panic and fear soon took over as the cyclists started rocking his car, saying they were going to tip it over.

This is what I was referring to with the "real threat" remark. I don't doubt that the driver was afraid, but I do doubt how reasonable his fear was. They're not going to be able to tip a car over. Everybody knows CM is just out to start fights. So like a politician or an agitated drunk you agree with them and calm them. Unfortunately you're not allowed to just kill them.

"I freaked out and overreacted. I should've turned my car off and waited for them to leave."

That is the tactical lesson here. He's absolutely correct. If you start bumping, arguing or pepper spraying it will just invite more trouble. That goes for any mob of drunks or protestors. Or drunk protestors.
 
I watched them do this to a family, the man driving started to honk when they were sitting on his hood, he was suddenly surrounded and they try to scare you. They were rocking his car, screaming that they were going to flip it over. He tried to inch forward, and they block his path and don’t move, as soon as he bumped into one of their bike tires, it was on. They began to beat on the car with everything they had.

If that was me, and my pregnant wife (soon to be mother of our first child) was in the car with me, I promise you I would take that as thread to my and my familly's life. Then I've got two words for those commie-bike-riding-cut-down-on-polution-stinking-hippies: HUMMER & GLOCK.

God just thinking about a bunch of a**holes like that atacking a familly makes me so angry.

EDIT TO ADD: first guy to break the window and stick his filthy hippie hands inside my car would take a bullet in the eye. If the mob didn't disperse in 0.5 seconds after that, body parts would be jammed between asfalt, rubber, and metal. God this makes me angry, I've seen hippies like that in NYC and wanted to floor it sooo much!
 
They're not going to be able to tip a car over.

Want to bet? I remember about 25 years ago a neighbor of mine found his car upside down in his driveway. I have little doubt that his car did that on it's own.

Newer SUV's with their high centers of gravity are probably pretty easy to tip. You might not be able to get it completely upside down, but I bet 10 or 15 people could easily tip it onto it's side.

I'm curious.. many posters in this thread have mentioned how pepper spray would come in handy in this type of situation. I don't understand how one would safely deploy the spray while seated in a vehicle with an angry mob gathered around. If you deploy in the car, you'll get the brunt of it. If you roll the window down and try to deploy into the mob, you'll either get the spray taken away (and used against you) or dragged out of the vehicle.. or both.

There are very few realistic methods to deal with an attack of hooligans. Unfortunately, the most effective is probably "drive thru".

Those who compare the actions of Critical Mass to organized open carry events don't get it. Open carry gatherings are peaceful assemblies which don't infringe on the rights of others. There appears to be nothing peaceful about Critical Mass.
 
They're not going to be able to tip a car over.

Of course they could have tipped the car over. In addition, they demonstrated they were willing and able to...

...slash his tires with knives...

...smash his windows...

...split his head open with a bike lock (i.e., assault with a deadly weapon)...

And you doubt for one moment how real his fear was? I'd say he had several real reasons to fear for his life.
 
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his is what I was referring to with the "real threat" remark. I don't doubt that the driver was afraid, but I do doubt how reasonable his fear was. They're not going to be able to tip a car over.

How do you figure that? Every time the Bulls won the championship, police cars got flipped in Chicago. Any idea what the weight difference is between a Crown Vic and a Subaru Outback wagon? I bet it favors the Subaru.

It doesn't take all that much.
 
Then I've got two words for those commie-bike-riding-cut-down-on-polution-stinking-hippies: HUMMER & GLOCK.

Look, a lot of people on the roads make me angry too, and for good reason. Some have nearly killed me. But after the fact, I don't get to ride up on their flank and shoot them in the back of the head. Hatred, even righteous hatred, does not open the way for application of deadly force. You have to view things in the circumstances. And the circumstances of a CM mob are unfortunately very well known. They don't kill people, and they don't present a deadly threat. They're just really annoying. If you really want to nail them videotape the whole thing while calling 911. YOU should remain cool and clear-headed, as this driver now admits.

police cars got flipped in Chicago.

Not by CM. These guys are well known and predictable. They WANT to start a confrontation and they WANT to be martyrs to their cause. Just smile and wave and call the cops. Don't argue with them, don't get in a punchup with them and don't try to run them down because they're making you late. It's the same rule you should use for angry drunks.
 
They don't kill people, and they don't present a deadly threat.

C'mon Cos...With all due respect, hitting somebody with a bike lock and splitting their head open IS most assuredly a deadly threat. And threatening to turn someone's car over is not only possible, it could also be considered a deadly threat.

How can you even suggest otherwise?
 
Then I've got two words for those commie-bike-riding-cut-down-on-polution-stinking-hippies: HUMMER & GLOCK.

Luckily the attitude in Seattle is a little different than that. And it's a lot more High Road.

And threatening to turn someone's car over is not only possible, it could also be considered a deadly threat.

Being in a car while it is turned over by a mob is life-threatening?

I don't have any love lost for these guys, honest. But I'm way more tolerant of a moron's right to act like a moron. Perhaps that is how I've managed to avoid any serious confrontations. If my life is threatened I will act accordingly. Otherwise, I'll wait a few minutes while the Critical Asses ride by.
 
Living in SF, I've been stuck behind these hipster ****s before and absolutely loath them.

I have no problems giving cyclists a wide berth and sharing the road with them. I live in a fairly heavily cyclist trafficked neighborhood and a few of my friends use bicycles as their daily transportation.

That said, if I decide to start blasting through the stoplights with my car, I get pulled over. Why aren't these clowns treated the same way?

These worthless monkeys DO give cyclists a bad name. If they showed they can share the road with cars (like stopping for stop signs/lights in groups), I think they would be able to further their cause. However, is this what they want to accomplish? Of course not, they just want to party and live the PBR swilling poor life that only those who grew up in privilige seem to enjoy (the poor don't).

I hate to say it but the only way this is going to get any better (read: more under control) is if it gets worse first. Our mayor in SF isn't going to lift a finger to control these clowns. I actually DO wish they would start rioting and causing more of a ruckuss. It would suck to own one of the cars that gets torched but at least that would FINALLY be a nice excuse to send the RIOT squad in to bludgeon the whole dirty mass of them.
 
Being in a car while it is turned over by a mob is life-threatening?

I would say yes. I can envision several ways that being in a car and having it flipped over could endanger ones life. Also I think that a reasonable person would feel a grave threat from an unruly mob that was attempting to flip their car.
 
Being in a car while it is turned over by a mob is life-threatening?

Everyone, go and read my post again. YES, it is a deadly thread to a 21 weeks pregnant woman (my wife as of today), or a new born (my son 4 months from now). Flipping a car over could easily cause my wife to miscarry, or could seriously hurt a newborn, who btw have no muscle strength or control to keep their head up straight... resulting in potential spinal cord damage.

My words were "and my wife or newborn in the car with me".

And yes, they are a bunch of stinking hypocrites! Noticed how the violent ones are always the hippies with peace signs all over their bodies???
 
Being in a car while it is turned over by a mob is life-threatening?

You should use the "emoticons" when you joke like that.

Of course it's possible to flip a car over. Of course it could be considered a deadly threat for the occupants. Any mob that would even threaten to turn an occupied car over is capable of further violence - as amply demonstrated by their further acts of violence.

I won't publicly state what I would do if I found myself and my family inadvertently caught in those circumstances - but you may be able to guess.
 
Being in a car while it is turned over by a mob is life-threatening?

Obviously the mob wants to turn over your car to give you upside-down hugs.

After all, any mob who flips your car with you in it is in absolute control of their emotions, and has a strong group dynamic towards loving interaction with the person who is the focus of its group activity.
 
hitting somebody with a bike lock and splitting their head open IS most assuredly a deadly threat.

That was only after he screamed at them, bumped one of them down and got in a fracas with the mob. As he's acknowledged it wasn't a smart thing to do. I'm not saying the mob was in the right, I'm saying that he made tactically poor choices that caused a reaction from the mob.

THIS is the wisdom to take and put in your pocket:

"I freaked out and overreacted. I should've turned my car off and waited for them to leave."

I'm not blaming him or saying he should be charged, just that he made tactically poor choices. These would have been doubly poor had he been carrying and a hundred fold poor had he shot and killed someone. If you're packing you have to go out of your way to avoid all confrontations, even if that means swallowing your pride and letting the fools have their day.
 
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