Within the last two months I purchased two handguns - a Beretta APXA1 (which came with a $100 rebate) and a Stoeger STR-9F (which came with a $75 rebate on a $232 gun). Got me to wondering - is there a glut in the firearms market today? Seems like a lot of sales incentives out there now.
The current gun sales environment
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gwpercle
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When you have to pay more for the Essentials ( it's the economy and inflation) that leaves less for things like new guns and ammo . The dealer's have to move them with "incentives" ... the dealer can't pay his bills unless he moves them .
It will all get better as soon as the New Man fixes the economy!
I've seen the roller-coaster ride many times over the last 60 years ...Boom ... then ... Bust , the natural cycle of things .
Gary
It will all get better as soon as the New Man fixes the economy!
I've seen the roller-coaster ride many times over the last 60 years ...Boom ... then ... Bust , the natural cycle of things .
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The LGS has been selling lower end cheaper models, people just don’t have the extra money.
I bought a Stoeger STR-9, for my first 9mm, pretty nice gun for the price IMHO.
roval
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if you get email from the online ammo/sporting goods. almost every week there is a "sale" of some sort with free haz mat or shipping but never both. colt revolvers have a rebate of $50 to $100.
roval
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i hope my lgs starts lowering prices. a used cz p01 with only 1 magazine is $600. a brand new one from grabagun is $630.
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We elected a Republican president, and Republican majority in congress. Everyone who likes guns can breathe a sigh of relief that, probably, there won’t be a whole lot of new gun ban drum-beating for at least two years. Which means that realistically for my wallet, there’s no reason to go buy a new toy now that will still be available in a few months… and might be cheaper, too.
Of course, those who make their living in the industry probably have mixed feelings. Partly they’re relieved that there will still be an industry for them to make a living in…. And no ominous threat of new burdensome regulations is a good thing. But partly I’m sure they can’t help but be dismayed, since Obama and Biden were fantastic gun salesmen.
Color me happy to see prices dropping with expectation of more of the same, as “peace” means a time of fully stocked shelves and reasonable prices even on oddball caliber ammo and nice guns. But it is a little inconvenient too since I would like to sell a few duplicates.
Of course, those who make their living in the industry probably have mixed feelings. Partly they’re relieved that there will still be an industry for them to make a living in…. And no ominous threat of new burdensome regulations is a good thing. But partly I’m sure they can’t help but be dismayed, since Obama and Biden were fantastic gun salesmen.
Color me happy to see prices dropping with expectation of more of the same, as “peace” means a time of fully stocked shelves and reasonable prices even on oddball caliber ammo and nice guns. But it is a little inconvenient too since I would like to sell a few duplicates.
PWC
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Seems that this is what we have been hoping and waiting for the last 4 yrs. Now, if the powder and components will just do the same.
I believe Biden's/Dem gun sale program will continue for awhile until America begins to feel safe again.
I believe Biden's/Dem gun sale program will continue for awhile until America begins to feel safe again.
JFrank
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You’ll be paying 25% more for imported products after the ‘new man’ causes a tariff trade war that gets passed on to the consumer.
Omaha-BeenGlockin
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I have extra money but there's nothing out there that interests me or that I don't already have one (or two) of----also looking for a new truck but I'm in no hurry and the manufacturers haven't come to their senses on pricing----there's no way I'm paying over 50k for a new vehicle if even that much---so they can starve until they get real---my little truck has a lot of years left in it.
Smokin Gator
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Or they will buckle and do what they need to do to avoid the tariffs as it appears is already happening. Trudeau speaking with Trump today.
General Geoff
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Absolutely, yes. It is a buyer's market right now, especially with BF sales going on. Probably the lowest prices on new, high-production guns in 20 years or longer, adjusted for inflation.
And while that's great for those who can splurge a little to get guns they want for a steep discount, it's gotta be really hard on the manufacturers, distributors, and retail FFLs who are probably just breaking even on sales these days. Things can only stay cheap for so long before production is ramped down or stopped altogether to allow for demand to catch up with supply.
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I'm not a statistician but I would guess gun sales track with people's notions of how steady their disposable income is or will be, whether accurate or not.
Guns are a niche consumer product with a limited market too, so I'd expect incentives to catch up to slumping sales faster than they would with other goods. Items with extraordinary markups to begin with, get "discounted" all the time. That's why furniture is on sale for every holiday. Guns, from what I've always heard, are low margin so there's probably not much room to cut deals unless the seller is a volume dealer.
Guns are a niche consumer product with a limited market too, so I'd expect incentives to catch up to slumping sales faster than they would with other goods. Items with extraordinary markups to begin with, get "discounted" all the time. That's why furniture is on sale for every holiday. Guns, from what I've always heard, are low margin so there's probably not much room to cut deals unless the seller is a volume dealer.
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Can confirm, guns are a low margin item, especially new manufacture ones. Things like plastic high cap 9mms, ARs and those inexpensive bolt actions everybody makes these days are all commodity type items. Shops make their margins on used guns and accessories, not new Sig and Wesson 9mms. Even before the election, supplies were increasing and then sitting at the shops around here. I should go make the rounds and see how busy my friends are right now, I suspect they're having a bit of a lull as everybody takes a step back.
My LGS is full to the brim with used stuff. Prices are just ok right now. Since the election ammo prices for black Friday have come down a bit. I'm in the I'm going to buy what I want while I can mode. I'm not getting any younger and time is flying by quickly. Started buying higher end stuff, you know stuff I always wanted.
lilguy
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In Illinois we got a sweeping gun ban recently . 1/2 the FFLs put outa business in last few years. Trumps SCOTUS picks are our last chance, but I am not holding my breath.
I'm in a unique position. There is nothing out there that interests me that I don't have an equivalent of. To top that off, my available "shooting" time has taken a hit due to care taking privileges (won't say duties, 58+ years married and she's worth every minute). I could be interested in a 1911 but as I have a Commander size Kimber, that can wait. Five completed builds or restorations are waiting on range time and two more waiting for shop time.
I'm blessed rather than in want. But at 80, I'd better get busy.
Happy Thanksgiving to all.
I'm blessed rather than in want. But at 80, I'd better get busy.
Happy Thanksgiving to all.
Howland937
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Two locally owned gun shops somewhat near by and a couple of chain type. Chain stores' gun counters are dead and half the time don't have any employees. One LGS is sitting on piles of new guns that aren't moving.
Last weekend, stopped in the other LGS which typically has 100-120 used guns in stock and maybe 30 new ones. They had about 30 new guns and about 30 used ones. They asked if I had any I was looking to sell cheap just so they could fill the cases.
My anecdotal assessment:
Guns with reasonable prices are still selling.
Guns at MSRP or MSRP+ are not.
People still aren't giving away the guns they panic bought the last couple of the years.
Last weekend, stopped in the other LGS which typically has 100-120 used guns in stock and maybe 30 new ones. They had about 30 new guns and about 30 used ones. They asked if I had any I was looking to sell cheap just so they could fill the cases.
My anecdotal assessment:
Guns with reasonable prices are still selling.
Guns at MSRP or MSRP+ are not.
People still aren't giving away the guns they panic bought the last couple of the years.
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....for sure. Especially since the increase in price along with any shortages of guns, ammo and reloading components had nothing to do with politics, but consumer demand and panic buying. Not only do the LGS have a glut, but now, so do many gun owners. The gun climate for years has been fueled by fear that the "guberment" was going to ban certain weapons and accessories. This along with the conspiracy theories that the "guberment" was buying up all the ammo(even lowly .22RF) so the public couldn't have any, led to folks buying whatever they could find for whatever price was on it. Hopefully, that climate has changed.
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