1911Tuner
<SNIP>The Hi-Point pistols fill a niche. Several actually. Most of them function just fine, and they're accurate enough to keep a body alive when there are people who are actively working to end it. There are an untold number of people who would be alive today if they'd had a Hi-Point handy when The Beast came to call. There are young women who have been forced into the trunks of their own cars who would have been very thankful had a cheap Hi-Point been stashed in that trunk. I wonder how many scoff at those RG revolvers that sold for 35 dollars in the 80s...and then I wonder how many people are alive because of an RG.
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They buy them for a little peace of mind in a nightstand or a glove box or for an old man to place on top of a refigerator...just in case. They're for a single mother who hustles tips as a waitress and can barely keep the lights turned on...and she wants something there to let her sleep a little better at night because she can't afford an apartment on the "good" side of town.
150 bucks ain't such a bad deal if you think about it.
+1 for a post-pistol carbine test.OK, after this test is ran with the H-P pistol, how about another test with an H-P carbine in one of those carbine courses?
John Wayne-
I'm not sure this would be the best test for the gun. Steel challenge is based purely on speed, and you're comparing two relatively different guns. When I shoot in steel challenge with two different guns of good quality (S&W revolver and XDM), the revolver is still noticably slower. Doesn't mean it's a bad gun, or that it's any less accurate. What I'm saying is that if the Hi Point is slower, it doesn't mean it's inferior.
I would think that as long as the Hi Point functions correctly, doesn't give too many stoppages, and doesn't adversely hinder the speed of the shooter, I would call it a win for the HP based on price. This is still a great thread and a great idea--I would be interested in seeing how other budget guns do, like the Kel Tec P11, S&W Sigma, Taurus 24/7s and so on.
OK, after this test is ran with the H-P pistol, how about another test with an H-P carbine in one of those carbine courses? Like a 995 or 4095? I have a 4095 and bought a 995 for my grandson, and man are those things fun!
Just priced some Hi Points in my area.......$200 for the 9mm and .45
for $200, someone on a budget is far better off with some quality milsurp pistols. makarov, pa-63, cz-82, tokarev, etc.
Harmon; what makes you think that a Hi-Point isn't a "Quality" gun? Is it because the new price on the pistol is about $150? (That's what a new 9mm hi-point costs here at our local gun shops). You say words like "ACTUAL QUALITY GUNS". Where is your proof, or even anecdotal evidence, that Hi-Points aren't "QUALITY GUNS". Like most people with an opinion of Hi-Points, very few have actually owned one, let alone even shot one. Props to justin for going for an Informed opinion, and not one of ignorance.for $200, someone on a budget is far better off with some quality milsurp pistols. makarov, pa-63, cz-82, tokarev, etc.
and that's my problem with hi-points. for about the same cost, or only a bit more, you can get some milsurp pistols that are actually quality guns. were i gun-less and in a severe economic situation, i think i'd eat ramen noodles for a couple weeks if necessary, so that i could afford a milsurp pistol instead.
You say words like "ACTUAL QUALITY GUNS". Where is your proof, or even anecdotal evidence, that Hi-Points aren't "QUALITY GUNS".
My 2 favorites are my 1989 West German SigSauer P220 45acp and my CZ-82 9mm makarov.
why bother with a hi-point? For someone in the know, I just can't see getting a hi-point over a milsurp pistol.