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The Hits Just Keep Coming!

Discussion in 'Legal' started by Deanimator, Mar 24, 2007.

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  1. Deanimator

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    That’s what happens when you have an unarmed populace. "Public Officials" with guns will begin to abuse those that don't.
     
  3. Deanimator

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    And if I'm not mistaken, the article SPECIFICALLY states that the men fear retaliation.

    Here's an interesting legal question:

    Can an entire police department be tried [or sued] under RICO?

    Clearly we have MULTIPLE instances of the Chicago PD engaging in a CONSPIRACY to OBSTRUCT JUSTICE.

    I've been telling a leftwing guy in my office about the Chicago PD for a couple of years now. This is only the icing on the cake, and I KNOW there's more to come...
     
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    As weak as the ACLU is on gun issues, with something like this; they would be the perfect organization to lead a lawsuit.
     
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    I'm sure Da Mayor is so happy he insisted on all those video cameras being installed in businesses......:rolleyes:
     
  6. Ratzinger_p38

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    Texas - The ACLU is a fraud. It would be better if it had a hostile take over by Libertarians.

    If you read their website, they support the phony 'collective right' garbage - which I find to be funny because if that were true, then it would certainly apply to the first also! They have an 'absolute' approach to the 1a which I agree with, but they dont support that for the 2nd? I call fraud.

    ACLU was founded by several leftists, including anarchists and communists (such as Elizabeth Gurley Flynn). They are a leftist front group, they have always been reluctant to defend 'rightists' like Neo Nazis.
     
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    Why do you guys have to bash the police?

    They made the best decisions they could under the circumstances.

    They just want to go home to their famillies like everyone else.

    Let's wait and hear their side of the story before we pass judgement.
     
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    Please post the text of the article. Thank you!
     
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    I'd certainly love to hear that sniveling coward Abbate's side of the story... of course I imagine it'd sound pretty much like the crudest rap CD you've ever heard. Given his chivalrous attitude toward women, he's got a bright future with the Taliban or Al Qaeda. I certainly don't want subhuman swill like him in MY country...
     
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    That's probably a copywrite violation. It's why I posted the link.

    I just emailed Bill O'Rielly the link. Wouldn't it be a hoot if he were the first one to broadcast THAT tape?
     
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    Just doing jobs no one else will do.

    Pilgrim
     
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    Excluding climate, sea level, Opra, and wealthy commodity brokerage houses, there doesn't seem to be a whole bunch of difference in NOLA and Chi-Town.

    salty.
     
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    And that is why my wallet contains my Libertarian Party membership card, snuggled up warm and cozy with my ACLU membership card and a buissness card I made up for Pink Pistols. :D

    If libertarians want the ACLU to change, then they need to join it and get active. I always try to remind them that civil liberties means all ten ammendments in the Bill of Rights: Not just the 1st and 4th.

    I've actually considered joining Handgun Control, Inc.... but the Brady's don't give their "members" any vote. Shocking, I know...
     
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    Now I know that not all cops are crooked. It's just that they all look alike to me, and generally speaking, one doesn't have time to get to know them personally while dealing with them in their official capacity. Now if the good ones were to wear white uniforms, while the bad one wore dark blue, maybe that would help.;)

    In the mean time, I treat them like I would any potential threat, keep my distance and try of stay out of sight.
     
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    Why do we bash the police?

    Because the department has been covering the a$$ of a guy who should have never been a police officer and went out, got drunk, and beat up an innocent- and unarmed- citizen. Not to mention that they've done the exact same thing in other bad- cop cases. How that Daley guy keeps getting elected, I'll never figure out.
     
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    Bad cops exist only because the "good" cops let them.

    No. Actually they don't "do it right."

    Every, every department or agency (federal, state, or local) has one or more of these "thugs in blue." The rest of them - ALL OF THE REST OF THEM - are knowing accomplices in the cover ups that occur daily. It is no excuse that "I personally don't beat suspects or other civilians or shake them down for cash or drugs" if you participate in the great blue wall of silence. And every one of them does.

    So long as any officer (which means every officer more than a week out of the Academy) knows of criminal activity by other officers and doesn't "rat them out," they are no better than the worst bad apple. Imagine selling your soul for $19.95 per hour plus overtime.

    If this is "cop bashing," it's a bashing that is well deserved. Deserved by every one of you cops because all of you participate in the constant, continuing cover-up (unless you are assigned to IAD, in which case I apologize). It's the thousands of "see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil" officers that bring the DISGUST upon the entire LEO profession because it belongs on the entire LEO profession.

    The CPD is just more forthright about using (abusing?) their LEO "privileges."

    [I do acknowledge that there are a few experienced officers who are so focussed on making our streets safe that they really don't know about the s**t that regularly goes on in every department (even the glorious FBI). I'm even willing to "assume" that the LEO's who post on THR are in that subgroup.]
     
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    The Chicago PD has gone way beyond "stop snitching". It's now actively obstructing justice, from Abbate and other cops threatening the victim and her boss, to the CPD itself throwing the original misdemeanor assault "softball" at Abbate, to the actual refusal of the police to intervene in the second criminal assault by offduty police.

    At this point, the Chicago PD has become the sort of "Racketeer Influenced Corrupt Organization" envisioned by the RICO statute(s).

    Two craven assaults by Chicago cops only since December, and who knows what will come to light in the coming week? I haven't actually checked, but I'll bet my local police department hasn't had that many criminal assaults against citizens by officers, since I moved here in '99.

    No police department gets to this point without going much farther, indeed all the way to murder. Have no doubt, it's coming. You'll just have to wait a little while for THOSE stories to come out.
     
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    I know some people, good people, may doubt stories like what happened to me back in '93 at the hands of CPD. However, shake downs, assaults, thefts and robberies against innocent law-abiding (well, we might have all been drinking but we quiet and keeping our hands to ourselves) civilians, "the little people", every week, if not every day in Chicago.

    The proper response to this banditry is a bullet to the brain pan. However, the cops in Chicago know they have nothing to fear from a disarmed citizenry and can do whatever they wish.

    The USA of the Northern District is deeply tied to Daley's machine and will not dare move against CPD. Daley may throw out scapegoats but the problem with CPD is cultural. A corrupt tyrannical government which fosters a corrupt thuggish police force.
     
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    Then Bush needs to fire some of THEM too.
     
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    and to think, I thought it was hard to believe when my girlfriend told me that everyone who gets pulled over for any traffic violation in the Chicago area gets their car searched. . .
     
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    USA is not a them. The USA is a he, Patrick Fitzgerald, you know, the guy that prosecuted Scooter. http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/iln/

    Can you imagine the uproar if Bush were to fire Fitzgerald?

    Daley is dug in so deep (politically) you need a backhoe, flamethrower and an aircraft carrier to get to him (tied in with the Mob, the feds, Blago, corporations, overseas money). No way the USA moves against CPD unless Daley says so.
     
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    He's got nothing to lose. In FACT, it'd be to his advantage.
     
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    Hmm, everytime I read another thread about Chicago, California, or New York City... I have to wonder. :confused:

    The Civil War shows, and the Constitution implies, that a state can not secced from the Union... But can the rest of the states "vote `im off the island," so to speak?

    Other than Jessica Alba, has anything good come out of California in the last 25 years?
     
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    Can you point to any language in the Constitution that states or implies this? I've not seen it. My reading on the topic overwhelmingly demonstrates (to me, at least) that President Lincoln was waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay off base and in over his head in militarily denying the Southern states their right to separate themselves from the Union.
     
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    Please review the Fair use doctrine before propagating another internet myth.:banghead:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_use

    It's perfectly acceptable to repost a news article on a free public board such as THR.

    BTW, I didn't post the Wiki page because it is quite long and would clutter the thread.:neener:
     
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