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The kindness of strangers

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by jamesbeat, Mar 1, 2009.

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  1. jamesbeat

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    I'm from the UK but I'm on vacation in LA at the moment.
    Obviously I am unable to shoot handguns where I live, so I was pretty eager to do some shooting while I was here!

    For ethical reasons, the ranges in CA have a 'buddy rule', whereby you can't go alone and hire a gun in case you intend to commit suicide.
    While this is a sensible rule, it put me in a tight spot because the friend that I am on vacation with isn't particularly interested in shooting.

    When he read a post by me on this forum about this dilemma, a very nice chap called Michael took pity on me, and he took me shooting today :)

    He drove a long way to pick me up from my hotel, took me to Angeles outdoor range and let me shoot up all his ammo.
    He wouldn't accept anything from me in return except the satisfaction of enabling me to shoot for the first time in around 14 years.
    Good to know there's still some nice folk around.

    I had a great day, thanks Michael :D
     
  2. ThrottleJockey

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    Now, when you go back to the UK, DEMAND that they give your guns back!!! And remember that we support you on this side of the pond.

    I'm really glad you had a good time.
     
  3. wrc376

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    good people rock!
     
  4. azhunter122

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    If that was in LA just imagine how nice the rest of the country is! lol
     
  5. Gamera

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    Come back and see us!
     
  6. jamesbeat

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    Well all being well I'll be moving to Ohio soon, so hopefully today was a taste of things to come :D

    Throttlejockey, there is a campaign in the UK demanding an end to the ban because it is demonstrably useless, but if you lived there, you'd understand that there is no hope whatsoever. It would be political suicide for a politician to even suggest it.

    As Michael rightly pointed out today, there were well over 100 people at the range today, and not one of them was going to go home and kill someone.
    Unfortunately, the idea that guns and violence/criminality being inextricably linked is the prevalent one in the UK.
     
  7. ThrottleJockey

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    I am aware of the campaign, I was just trying to get your gander up so to speak. Sort of a motivational thing:)
     
  8. jamesbeat

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    Nah, I'll just move to the States instead, not only do you already have handguns, you also have IHOP :D
     
  9. Kind of Blued

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    That brought a smile to my face jamesbeat. I'm glad you got to have that eperience. We can't wait to have you as a fellow American who understands part of what the country is about.

    If you ever make it to Colorado, you can expect the same treatment.
     
  10. Sunray

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    jamesbeat, most North American shooters are just like that. It's not 'pity'. Helping another shooter is a normal thing.
    "...For ethical reasons..." Nope. Silly CA laws.
    "...I'll just move to the States instead..." Don't opt for CA. Their laws are more daft than Canadian laws. Vermont would be a good place if you like snow. Look into the State gun laws. Our American cousins get to comply with U.S. Federal, State and sometimes municipal laws. Florida is ok, except for the hurricanes. Georgia, North Carolina and that general area is good too. Ohio will do nicely. Here's synopsis of Ohio laws. http://www.nraila.org/statelawpdfs/OHSL.pdf
    There's a shop in Las Vagas that'll rent you an SMG with no 'buddy' requirement. Cheap, it ain't though.
     
  11. coloradokevin

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    No offense, but why do all of the foreigners seem to move to Ohio? I'm originally from Ohio, and I lived there for about 25 years. I guess I just honestly never understood the draw to the state! Still, by the time I finished college I had known people in that state from 22 different countries!

    Do yourself a favor, move somewhere exciting! Try: Colorado, or Oregon, or Alaska, or Vermont, or Hawaii (okay, HI is too anti-gun, but they are still better than the UK). Ohio has jobs, a great lake, great food, and even a fairly decent gun culture, but the outdoor scene just never quite did it for me!

    Anyway to bring this back to topic, I'm glad you enjoyed shooting, and it is nice to hear about someone in the shooting community reaching out to another!
     
  12. jamesbeat

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    I meant 'ethical' reasons as opposed to legal reasons, I believe it's not actual law, rather just the done thing in CA ranges.
    I suppose it does have some merit, if I owned a range I'm pretty sure I wouldn't want someone to use it to commit suicide there. CA is hard enough on firearms owners already without having something like that in the media!

    It's definitely Ohio, I don't think my soon to be wife would appreciate it if I moved thousands of miles away from her :D

    I have heard of the full auto ranges in Vegas, and I intend to make a pilgrimage there one day.

    It seems that I'm pretty lucky to be moving to Ohio, the gun laws aren't too restrictive. I think I'll be doing my CCW application too. I don't know how much I'll actually carry, but it'll be nice to have and Ohio seems to have reciprocity agreements with a decent number of other states.
     
  13. Highland Ranger

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    PA has ranges that rent full auto guns as well in case you don't have time to go to Nevada (vegas) you can go to the state next door.
     
  14. Steve N

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    Where in Ohio are you moving to? Members can let you know the close ranges.
     
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    Hey hey, I welcome you to Ohio. When you do move to Ohio, you should join OFCC (Ohioans For Concealed Carry). One of the best groups fighting for our rights here in Ohio. The forums are an excellent source for laws and info regarding Ohio, as well.

    What part of Ohio will you be moving to?
     
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    Ohio is a great state, and we will be happy to have you.
     
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    Jamesbeat: What part of Ohio are you moving to?

    There are undoubtedly some members from our wonderful state that would gladly hook you up with some range time when you get here--

    If you are anywhere near the Akron or Canton area I can let you have some fun with a few goodies of mine at the range--
     
  18. Duke of Doubt

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    The trouble with England isn't so much that they ban guns once in awhile. The trouble with England is that they physically DESTROY their guns, and have to replace them with decent American stock, which they then destroy yet AGAIN a few decades later. My family loaned some extra guns to England in 1940, years after England banned guns for the second of three tries at tyranny. We never did get them back; England destroyed them a decade ago. We're not doing this again. If England wants to break their guns and become a nation of sissified ball-gagged rubbermaids, that's their business. I'm tired of trying to help them.
     
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    Duke I had just read last night where NRA members sent their privately owned guns to england during WWII, I was wondering if and how they were returned..guess that gives me a little insight in the matter
     
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    fd62: "Duke I had just read last night where NRA members sent their privately owned guns to england during WWII, I was wondering if and how they were returned..guess that gives me a little insight in the matter"

    The NRA effort was part of it, to supply the British Home Guard. Some Americans also did their own part, thinking England had learned its lesson and wouldn't do something so stupidly vicious and irresponsible as to break its own guns again. But they did. Next time somebody from the Continent decides to take on the Brits, I say have at it. My whole state is populated with dispossessed French-Canadians and Irish, who love to see the Brit Brats take a beating.
     
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    Hey, some of the coastal cities skyline changes every few years. Our buildings are continually upgraded to the latest architectural standards and looks and the other 49 states help us pay for it thru federal assistance grants.
     
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    I have a standing invitation for any of our friends who live in other countries to go shooting with me if visiting or passing through Arkansas. I don't have any machine guns but I have most other popular gun types and you are welcome to try anything I have on hand.
     
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    "It would be political suicide for a politician to even suggest it."

    Maybe its time some politicians did that there and here. You know, that "Lives, Fortunes, and Sacred Honor" thing. Unfortunately its not enough for us to just say that we want more freedoms. We need to let our elected "Ofishills" know that we will back them (with time and money) if they will stand up for what is right, even against their own party. :cuss: RINOs
     
  24. Larry Ashcraft

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    Want to make a Brit grin?

    Hand him an M1! :D

    [​IMG]

    OK, this THR member is technically a South African who now lives and works in the UK. He visited my town a couple of years ago, and we had a great time both shooting and visiting.

    I'll let him identify himself if he wants to. ;)
     
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    Be sure to check on the laws governing firearms ownership by resident aliens - some states have very restrictive regulations.

    But Welcome to America!
     
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