The Maryland AWB of 2007

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The TAx bill is a bad one and can be lit up but as I understand it to try to turn it into an AWB would not be germane wrt the original bill...not that it would be impossible but......the reason it was in Ways and Means was b/c it was a Tax.....AWB would require it to go to Judicial....

Not impossible and you're right we need to get on the Ways and Means Committee Members..

Here's a link to contact info for them.....write those e-mails/letters folks

http://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?t=729
 
nico,

jpk1md has the right read on this. I had lunch with one of delegate friends a couple of weeks ago and he says that attaching an AWB to the tax bill would violate the single subject rule. They'll have a fight on their hands within the House of Delegates if they try to amend it in that manner.

If they try that, I'm sure that we can persuade someone to further amend the bill with a CCW amendment......what's good for the goose is good for the gander.
 
more on Brochin (Gazette)

A lot of chest thumping going on . . . where have I heard whining about an "up or down vote" before?

http://www.gazette.net/stories/031607/polinew191330_32328.shtml

Friday, March 16, 2007
Reporters Notebook: Brady Campaign is gunning for Brochin unless he toes its line
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Gun control advocates, emboldened by their success at defeating an opponent in November, are now targeting a Baltimore County senator whom they see as an obstacle to a proposed assault weapons ban.

‘‘We want to pass the assault weapons ban. We don’t want to have to replace a substantial part of the state legislature, but we know the people of Maryland want overwhelmingly for this to pass,” said Peter Hamm, the Brady Campaign’s communications director. ‘‘It’s business.”

In the Brady crosshairs is Jim Brochin, who sits on the Senate Judicial Proceedings Committee, which is considering the ban.

The campaign purchased airtime on WBAL radio in Baltimore for ads in which Brady President Paul Helmke says the bill would ban military-style assault rifles criminals are using to outgun police.

Brochin, the ad says, ‘‘is the key vote needed now to pass this bill.”

In an interview, Brochin said the ban unfairly hurts law-abiding gun owners. ‘‘If you can get criminals and bad guys to register their guns, sign me up,” the second-term senator said.

If the assault weapons ban were important, Brochin said the Democratic majorities in Congress would reinstate the federal ban. ‘‘They know gun control doesn’t work, and everybody wishes it did,” he said.

Gun control is what cost John Giannetti his Senate seat last year, Hamm said. ‘‘We announced we were making it our mission to unseat him. We unseated him twice,” Hamm said.

Giannetti voted against the ban in JPR and lost the 2006 Dem primary to Jim Rosapepe. Giannetti then changed parties to run against Rosapepe as a Republican. He lost again. Rosapepe is one of the co-sponsors of the assault weapons ban, which was submitted by Sen. Mike Lenett.

Brochin should let the bill reach the Senate floor, Hamm said. ‘‘Senator Brochin is entitled to his vote, but he is not entitled to block the full Senate from voting for this thing,” he said. ‘‘If he wants to vote his conscience, he can vote his conscience when the full Senate votes on this thing.”

Although at least five other JPR members oppose the ban, the Brady Campaign is only targeting Brochin. ‘‘We’re never going to land Alex Mooney because he’s a strange visitor from another planet,” Hamm said. But the organization is willing to use its might on others.

‘‘Whoever blocks this bill in the Maryland legislature is going to earn our opposition. And we’re going to be committed to that opposition, and we’re going to be invested in that opposition,” he said. ‘‘The soul of Senator Giannetti deserves that. ... He should not have died in vain.”:rolleyes:

— Douglas Tallman
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Last time I checked, Rosapepe said Giannetti lost because of energy deregulation (can't find the link to the article, PGP may have mentioned it somewhere).
 
And they say we are close minded crazy people:uhoh: Brochin has seen the light, and now the Bradys are trying to make an example of him, if nothing else Im sure he will appreciate our personal thank you letters. I think they will be more meaningful than the robotic hate forms the bradys are probably sending. We must support those that support us.
 
Invite

Good idea on the invite to the swing voters to come and shoot. Hopefully, you can get some media attention. Try to line up one of thos hot looking female newscasters. They are the real reason O'Reilly's ratings are so high:what:
 
Hatchet Job

:evil: Considering that the Brady Bunch will try to ruin Sen Brochin for his honesty, did any of the 5 senators who voted against SB43 win their elections by close margins? Should it be that any of the , GANG OF FIVE, won by under 4% or 5% then we should get after conservatives and gun owners in their districts to come out in the next election and support a gun rights candidate. That means canvassing the precincts, and holding public rallies.
 
Brochin was in a squeaker in the general, IIRC, but in the primary I don't think so. Giannetti had made a bunch of bloopers and unpopular votes (the ICC did him in more than anything else) that even without the Brady Bunch's help he probably woulda been done in--he was a nicer person, a better person, sponsored or wrote a lot of important bills (he wrote the biodiesel bill, a huge win for MD), but Rosapepe had about 5 times as much money to spend on the campaign.

Money, unfortunately, wins elections.

Giannetti fought hard, but in the race against that jackanape Rosapepe, he was in a 100 yard dash with Rosapepe starting on the 90 yard line.

Hopefully that won't be the case with Brochin.
 
Money

Money is a very sobering reality Helmetcase. Somehow we are going to have figure out ways to help finance Gun rights candidates. There is no telling how much the Brady Bunch can garner from other far left liberals. How much money do the Brady Bunch have to throw against Brochin?
 
‘‘Senator Brochin is entitled to his vote, but he is not entitled to block the full Senate from voting for this thing,” he said. ‘‘If he wants to vote his conscience, he can vote his conscience when the full Senate votes on this thing.”
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In that case, why not just do away with committees, since no legislator has the right to keep a bill from getting to the floor of their respective house.

‘‘We’re never going to land Alex Mooney because he’s a strange visitor from another planet,” Hamm said.
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Maybe we should send this quote out to the pro-gun reps so they can see the antis' condescension firsthand.

‘‘The soul of Senator Giannetti deserves that. ... He should not have died in vain.”
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someone needs to smack this guy
 
I read that and thought "they're all a bunch of five-year-olds".

It's as if the representatives said "you can't have your gun ban because it isn't fair to alll of us" and the brady's are replying "BUT WE WANNA! YOU'RE MEEEAAANNNN!!! STUPIDHEADS!"
 
YAY!!!

Ding Dong the witch is dead for the year!

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/lo...ar16,0,3818418.story?coll=bal-local-headlines

A Senate committee yesterday rejected a ban on assault weapons, effectively ending the proposal's chances for this General Assembly session.

The Judicial Proceedings Committee deadlocked 5-5 over the ban, which means the bill will likely not get a full vote on the Senate floor. With no corresponding legislation in the House of Delegates, that means the issue is almost certainly dead for the year.





Two Baltimore County Democrats - Sens. Norman K. Stone and James Brochin - joined three Republicans on the committee to kill the bill.

"The only people we target in this bill are law-abiding citizens who use these guns for target shooting or competitions," Brochin said. "I wish gun control worked, but it doesn't make any sense."

The bill, which was endorsed by Gov. Martin O'Malley, would have banned the importation, sale or possession of 45 types of semi-automatic handguns and long guns in Maryland.

The federal government's assault weapons ban ended in 2004, but most of the guns covered by that legislation still face stiffer regulations than other firearms under Maryland law.

Attorney General Douglas F. Gansler and the Maryland State Police testified in support of the bill, but the state Fraternal Order of Police opposed it, saying the law would be difficult to enforce.

The push to enact stricter gun laws in Maryland got stronger after the Washington-area sniper shootings of 2002, but efforts failed under former Gov. Robert L. Ehrlich Jr., who opposed an assault weapons ban.

Supporters had hoped that O'Malley's backing would make the difference, but the result this year was the same.

O'Malley spokesman Rick Abbruzzese said the governor is disappointed, but he said he could not say whether the governor will pursue the issue in the future.
 
Well. Happy St Patricks Day! St Patrtick rid Ireland of snakes and Gun rights advocates rid the MD Senate of a few snakes on Senate Bill 43.
 
Congratulations on beating back the barbarian hordes for another year. I am going to untack this thread since the bill is now dead; but feel free to continue the conversation in this thread.
 
Phew! It was too close for comfort. Unfortunately I'm afraid we'll be back here next year. What I worry about is they'll realize they over-reached bigtime, and they'll try a scaled down version that wins over a couple on the fence types.

As your sig notes, the price of political indifference is drastic and deleterious to freedom.

Stay alert, all.
 
Any news on the Gun tax/surcharge issue? Will this come up again for discussion or will it get lost or die quietly?

We should all thank Mr Levy and the Cato Institute for their effort to end the handgun ban in D.C. We might politely let them know(Cato-Libertaians) that the tax that the Anti-gunners are trying to promote runs against the spirit of the Libertaian point of view.

P.S. They are great people but don't vote for a third party.:neener:
 
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