The Meat Target

[Bang!]

Youtuber Paul Harrel does a lot of testing with different types of ammunition and out of a lot of different types of firearm platforms. Highly recommend his channel. One of the test he does is with “the meat target”. I’ll let him explain it to you in this recent video of his as he will do a lot better than I. The meat target does have some seasonal changes depending on what “parts” are in season or available to him. The meat target is designed to simulate a human target and be a better medium than gelatin for testing. I think it’s interesting in that it has clothes, meat, bone, simulated lung tissue, sometimes leather or pig ears for skin, and that tells more about the effects of ammunition.

What do you think?

Don’t get caught up in the ammunition he’s testing here. He has plenty of videos with the meat target and he’s probably tested your caliber and preferred Ammo. You might prefer to look at those videos to get a better idea of the validity of the meat target as a test medium.

 

[gulogulo1970]

Other than having a lot of tenderized meat for a BBQ, it doesn't seem like a bad test medium. I like his tests. He says here is what I did, you make up you own mind on what it means to you.

 

[Cienega27]

I like his no nonsense videos as well. Thought the one showing the power of the .357 mag was very interesting. It's obvious he knows his firearms.

 

[CLP]

I'd rather cook and eat the meat and shoot jello.

Watermelons is another thing people shoot that makes me shake my head. What a waste. Why not shoot cabbage heads instead?

 

[MidRoad]

I'd rather cook and eat the meat and shoot jello.

Watermelons is another thing people shoot that makes me shake my head. What a waste. Why not shoot cabbage heads instead?

Sounds like you've never had a good golumpki

First time I seen his videos. I liked it. Good test medium,and a straight forward analysis. Will have to check out more of his vids. Thanks.

 

[VoodooMountain]

Paul Harrel is probably the most underrated firearm channel on youtube.
Good stuff. No bs

I have often wondered about the meat target myself but in my mind it is a better simulation than gel and it also keeps the playing field fair as he does the same target for all his tests.

I think bullet texhnology and marketing has been greatly skewed in recent years to illustrate good performance in ballistic gel to please the masses and their dogma.

 

[CLP]

Sounds like you've never had a good golumpki

First time I seen his videos. I liked it. Good test medium,and a straight forward analysis. Will have to check out more of his vids. Thanks.

Are you kidding me? I hail from deep Pittsburgh Polish roots. My Grandma would make a ton of cabbage rolls and my Dad would bring home a cooler full of them destined for our stomachs after a brief layover in the freezer- along with nut rolls, apricot rolls. Fair enough... how about eggplant? Eat the watermelon, shoot the eggplant...

 

[Scooter22]

What a waste of food.

 

[herrwalther]

I think bullet texhnology and marketing has been greatly skewed in recent years to illustrate good performance in ballistic gel to please the masses and their dogma.

Unless someone starts volunteering to get shot for ballistic testing or we start shooting cadavers from medical labs, ballistic gelatin is the best bench mark we are going to get. It is far better than shooting wet pack newspaper for sure.

 

[JR24]

I recently found his channel and have been enjoying it.

Not sure that pork ribs + watermelon with a jacket on it is any better than gel + denim. Then again I'm not sure its any worse.

I do like his delivery and style quite a bit

 

[LoonWulf]

I'd rather cook and eat the meat and shoot jello.

Watermelons is another thing people shoot that makes me shake my head. What a waste. Why not shoot cabbage heads instead?

bah, and waste all that good coleslaw, and sauerkraut?

I hadnt seen this guy yet, thanks for posting the vid.

 

[Danoobie]

IMO, very valid ballistic comparisons. Emphasis on comparison. I think everybody who can
should do a little of their own testing. Regardless of the specific testing medium, It gives you
a better general idea of what a particular round will do, compared to others. Paul
also states that you want to trust what you see for yourself, VS some often spouted hearsay.

 

[Arkansas Paul]

I'm a fan of Paul's channel.
He's a cool guy and has a laundry list of accomplishments and credentials, but he doesn't get up and brag on himself for what seems like eternity like some others do.

I think this is the same Paul Harrell.
http://www.wallowacountychieftain.c...reed-of-manslaughter-charges-in-troy-shooting

 

[Bfh_auto]

I watched several of his videos. It's a nice break from the look at me talk people.

 

[hdwhit]

Bang! asked:
What do you think?

Ballistic Gel provides a uniform, readily available medium that provides for consistent, repeatable comparisons. As a substance that allows researchers as well as hobbyists the world over to conduct tests that can be replicated by others, it is wonderful stuff. As a predictor of how a bullet will perform inside the human body it is all but useless.

The "meat test" may have its limitations, but it does at least simulate the various tissues that a bullet may encounter inside the human body and in that respect probably offers a much more realistic idea of the performance of a bullet.

I've often posted that it would be more realistic to shoot into a slab of pork than a block of reconstituted cow hooves and Mr. Harrell here goes well beyond that. I'm impressed.

 

[hdwhit]

CLP wrote:
I'd rather cook and eat the meat and shoot jello.

So long as you didn't make the mistake of assuming that what the bullets do to the jell-o has any relationship to what they would do to your target, that sounds like a plan. What's on the menu?

Why not shoot cabbage heads instead?

Why pick on the humble cabbage? Entire civilizations have subsisted for hundreds of years on diets of which the cabbage was a principal part.

 

[murf]

he is good. i watch his vids all the time. i even agree with most of his opinions!

murf

 

[Merle1]

Youtuber Paul Harrel does a lot of testing with different types of ammunition and out of a lot of different types of firearm platforms. Highly recommend his channel. One of the test he does is with “the meat target”. I’ll let him explain it to you in this recent video of his as he will do a lot better than I. The meat target does have some seasonal changes depending on what “parts” are in season or available to him. The meat target is designed to simulate a human target and be a better medium than gelatin for testing. I think it’s interesting in that it has clothes, meat, bone, simulated lung tissue, sometimes leather or pig ears for skin, and that tells more about the effects of ammunition.

What do you think?

Don’t get caught up in the ammunition he’s testing here. He has plenty of videos with the meat target and he’s probably tested your caliber and preferred Ammo. You might prefer to look at those videos to get a better idea of the validity of the meat target as a test medium.

I think it is more realistic than a lot of "tests" I have seen.

 

[Merle1]

What a waste of food.

not if it is expired.....

 

[Scooter22]

not if it is expired.....

Who lets pork ribs expire? Eat um!

 

[Sauer Grapes]

I've watched a lot of his videos. Love the ''meat target''! How realistic is it? ''You be the judge''.

 

[Trunk Monkey]

This is one of his best videos (IMO). In a couple of his videos he shoots from 60 yards away.

 

[Goosey]

It might be interesting to see what the bullets do to the meat targets, but since the meat targets and the items they are composed of are not consistent, the results won't be repeatable, and can't be compared to one another.

 

[jmr40]

Shooting meat, live goats, hogs, human cadavers, etc. certainly isn't new. All of that has been tried at various times for at least 100 years. It is generally considered a poor way to compare bullets since no 2 shots will encounter exactly the same thing. Shooting ballistic gel has proven to be a far more accurate predictor of how bullets will perform since all of them hit exactly the same thing.

I'd take with a grain of salt the advice of someone claiming to be a firearms expert who doesn't understand that.

 

[Mark 40]

Ballistic Gel provides a uniform, readily available medium that provides for consistent, repeatable comparisons. As a substance that allows researchers as well as hobbyists the world over to conduct tests that can be replicated by others, it is wonderful stuff. As a predictor of how a bullet will perform inside the human body it is all but useless.

The "meat test" may have its limitations, but it does at least simulate the various tissues that a bullet may encounter inside the human body and in that respect probably offers a much more realistic idea of the performance of a bullet.

I've often posted that it would be more realistic to shoot into a slab of pork than a block of reconstituted cow hooves and Mr. Harrell here goes well beyond that. I'm impressed.

agreed.....
I've used ballistics gel to compare rounds in order to see which one performs best from a given firearm.
And as you say, the meat target offers yet another aspect, a more realistic idea of performance.
Good stuff.