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The Nanny State Strikes Again

Discussion in 'Legal' started by Desk Jockey, Apr 5, 2006.

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  1. Desk Jockey

    Desk Jockey Member

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    The kid showed poor judgement, but a conviction for photos taken in his home, with parental permission to handle the firearms???

    We live in scary times, my friends.

    Minor convicted for posing with weapons
     
  2. crazed_ss

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    Well.. that certaintly is regrettable.
     
  3. exar

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    Regardless of the legality of your actions, you shouldn't go around doing stupid stuff for the entire world to see.
     
  4. crazed_ss

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    Yea.. sounds like the kid was just showing off on the internet. Not very smart. The whole "Angel of Death" thing would concern me though.
     
  5. SaintofKillers

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    I think the state getting involved is excessive and unnecessary.

    The last thing this kid or any other kid for that matter needs is the state telling them how to live their lives.

    Dad should have given him a good slap upside the head for doing something foolish.

    But then the nanny state would come in and prosecute the father for child abuse.
     
  6. exar

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    This is not the first arrest that has come from My Space. Over the last few months many teens have been arrested for sex, drugs, and guns. I will never understand the need to commit felonies and brag about to as many people as possible. One kid made the claim that he made over 100k a year by selling drugs and took pictures of himself with the drugs and guns. He is now in jail. Stupid, so stupid.
     
  7. Desertdog

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    What ever happened to the Right To Keep And Bear Arms? I think the NRA, GOA and all the rest of the pro-gun groups should have their lawyers lining up to file appeals.
     
  8. Sindawe

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    Whisky Tango Foxtrot?

    From the linked article in Prav- I mean the Rocky Mountain News...
    :confused: I don't have access to Colorado's statutes at the moment, but if the law does indeed state the point I have emphasized, just what law did the kid violate and why the frell was he prosecuted and convicted? :confused:

    As a Colorado resident, I offer my deepest apologies for the apparent idiocy of the prosecutor and any jury in this case. :banghead:
     
  9. Desk Jockey

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    True. But if the photos depict no illegal activities, then how can you be convicted of a crime? The kid was stupid, but he didn't break the law. He had parental permission and was in his home.
     
  10. Erebus

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    Looks like a complete over reaction to me. Should be easy to get overturned on appeal. That is assuming that the quoted statute is correct.
     
  11. Clean97GTI

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    "That doesn't mean juveniles could run around the house and do whatever he wanted with the gun," Boatright said,

    correct me if I'm wrong your honor, but thats not really what happened...is it? The boy, who had permission to handle the guns, took a few pictures and posted them on the internet.

    Bad ruling and I hope it gets thrown out.

    The judge set a $5,000 bond, but ordered that the boy must be evaluated and a safety plan drawn up before he can be released.

    a safety plan? Does Colorado law allow for something like that...a ruling that dictates how a person must keep their guns? :scrutiny:
     
  12. bigun15

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    So basically the situation is: Teenager has pictures of himself with guns on his Myspace. They are recognized as being his parents guns, but he gets arrested.

    Umm...I'll be back in a couple minutes...:uhoh:
     
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    Where is the crime, exactly?
     
  14. Kodiaz

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    Hmm this sounds like tyranny to me.
     
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    Hmm, whatever happened to 'until proven guilty'?

    They had the pictures... and thats it. For all they know the parent was standing beside the kid.

    This was a stupid arrest and a pitiful attempt to 'make the schools safer'. Instead it has resulted in one mistake ruining someones life.
     
  16. Desk Jockey

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    TFA says:

    Apparently, it's illegal to put your finger on the trigger of an unloaded handgun.
     
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    Based on the information in the article, it appears that prosecutors and judges in Colorado act not on the law, but what they think the law should be.
     
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    That does indeed seem to be the case, as the prosecution of one Laura Kriho shows.
     
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    This wasn'ta violation of the law. CO law means a minor can wield guns if permitted by their parents
     
  20. GruntII

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    But the system ain't broke.:confused:
     
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    Does Colorado law spell out exactly what 'permission' entails?
    Does the law state that 'permission' doesn't include taking pictures of yourself?


    So this kid was arrested and has been in jail for two months and now has a criminal record for... taking pictures of himself doing something perfectly legal? :confused:

    They just want to hang him in the public square and make an example out of him.
    It appears the smoke from Columbine still lingers in the air.
     
  22. DRZinn

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    So the law allows it, but he was convicted anyway? On what grounds?

    :barf:

    Worst part of the whole thing.
     
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    JeffCo is not required to abide by the laws of the state of Colorado or the Constitution of the United States any more than Boulder, or the City of Denver.
     
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    Wow - that is just so outrageous! Are we meant to be mindreaders when serving on juries now?
     
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    That father needs to grow some balls, appeal the conviction, and get the guns back in the house.
     
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