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The new 44spcl Bulldog's (what you think?)

Discussion in 'Handguns: Revolvers' started by Float Pilot, Sep 28, 2012.

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  1. Float Pilot

    Float Pilot Member

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    Has anyone goofed with or own one of the new 44 Special Charter Arms Bulldogs ?

    I am thinking about getting another light weight pocket size blaster...
     
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    I watched a Youtube review on one from a guy who has posted several other helpful reviews. He didn't care for it.
     
  3. firesky101

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    My father bought one as his carry gun. I have shot it quite a bit and am impressed enough to put it on my buy one soon list.
     
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    I own and carry one. Great shooters. I have the pug,excellent thump. $2.50 a shot. Only regret not getting the crimson trace version. Enjoy!
     
  5. Lawdawg45

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    I've carried a Bulldog in one form or another for 20+ years:cool:

    LD
     
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    One thing I could never understand and still cannot is why anyone would buy a 44 Special instead of a 44 Magnum. How much can the difference in weight be and the magnum gives one so many more options when it comes to powerful loads. I DO understand why the special might be and is a better carry load.

    Same story diffent channel. If buying just one revolver i would buy a 357 magnum not a 38. I can still shoot the entire gamut of 38 loads and the magnum cannot be that much heavier.
     
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    Because Charter don' make a Bulldog in 44 mag.
     
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    AND nobody seems to like to shoot the bigger and heavier scandium model 29 S&W with mag loads !:neener:
     
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    I bought a CA Bulldog early this year and I really like it. It's my carry gun on the tractor and in the woods. It takes a little while to figure out the sights, but it's accurate and fun to shoot once you do. :D
     
  10. David E

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    Do you know what a Charter Arms Bulldog is?

    Your assessment makes sense with full size guns, but not so much with the compact and/or lightweight guns.

    Full size, yes. Compact? If I had to decide between a 14.5 oz 642 chambered in .38 Special for $400 or an 11 oz 342 Scandium .357 for $650, I'm getting the 642. If I didn't have to pay for it, it'd be the 342, but I'd never load magnums in it.
     
  11. Jaymo

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    Depends on whether I need/want to shoot mags or spls.
    Generally, magnums are not as accurate with spl ammo as spls are. There's about 1/8" more bullet jump when shooting spls in a mag cyl than when shooting spls in spl cyls.

    Besides, nobody makes a .44 mag the size and weight of a Charter Bulldog. If they did, nobody would be willing to shoot it.
     
  12. Float Pilot

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    Because the little 5 shot 44 special Bulldog is light weight and only slightly larger than a 5 shot 38 special snub-nose.
    It is a pocket gun not a range gun...

    As an Alaskan, I already have all sorts of large magnum handguns. The smallest thing I have is a 4 inch Python.

    I was just thinking about a little jacket pocket gun for trips into town....

    But so far the new Chjarter Arms don't sound much better than the old ones.

    Maybe I will just go buy a KAHR 40 cal belly gun... I just like little revolvers better for jacket pockets. But I was used a 38 Special in a real situation and was not impressed with the results.
     
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    I'd get one.

    I have (and like) the same-sized Mag Pug .357, and only bought it over the Bulldog because of the cheaper and more common ammo.

    I'd actually like the Bulldog more because it doesn't have a ported barrel which I don't particularly care for on a snub-nosed revolver.

    Recommend getting Pachmayr Compacâ„¢ grips, as they look better than the stock ones and have decent ergonomics.

    If not for my current S&W buying spree, I would already own one. Light, reliable, and a lot of THUMP for a small revolver.
     
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    I have one I bought about 30 years ago, and it gives me a piece of mind just looking at those big 220 gr lead bullets. A very reliable man stopper.
     
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    A few folks have recommended a S&W 696 44 special. I do not think I have ever seen one... I wonder how big and heavy they are...???

    HOW ABOUT THE TAURUS model 445 in 44 special It supposedly weighs 22 onces.....????
     
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    The 696 is the same size as the 686 it just has bigger holes and a 5 rnd cylinder instead of six. IIRC the 696 weighs about 34oz unloaded.
     
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    I have a 696. I'll try and get a picture up tomorrow. But, its very much a belt gun. 3" L frame. Its pretty chunky.

    And, out of production for years. Pretty pricey now. If you can find one, you may be looking at around $800 for a nice one.
     
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    Oh,,, so there would be no huge carry advantage over my 4 inch Python.

    Even my old 2.5 inch model 19 was not exactly the worlds smallest revolver. Too bad I shot it and it's two sisters to death... Oh for the days of free issue ammo.

    Now that I am getting to be an old geezer, I just need a little suprise for trips to the bad city...
     
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    Or more in some places. I have been seeing some sell at $1000 or more. Been carrying a 696 daily since 1996 and it is not a lightweight gun but with a good belt and holster it is really not bad. The 696 was IMO the best idea S&W has had in many years. The market was not big enough for S&W apparently. .44 Spl. is one of our greatest cartridges.
     
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    You might want to go look at a Ruger SP-101. I'm getting the feeling you just may be a revolver guy. I carry a 3" Model 65 alot of the time, since those are out of production, they too are getting pricey. The SP-101 is pretty easy to find, smaller than the 19 you wore out and a darned fine little gun. I think enough of them to own two of them.

    Added thought: I love the .44 Special and Magnum...and the .41..Theres few calibers I don't like for one reason or another, but, really, I'm not sure whatever is on the receiving end would be able to tell the difference between a .44 Special or 158 GR .357 Magnum. The SP-101 is the absolute lightest gun I would want to shoot full house Magnums out of. All stainless, its a tank.

    My department is still pretty liberal with ammo. I can shoot up around 100 rounds a month excluding quals,and no one will say anything. But, the only thing they have in stock is .40. I bought a couple off duty guns in .40 for that exact reason, to use somebody elses ammo.
     
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    Here's a pic of my 696,
    http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=64627&d=1190868351
    I really like the 696 but I think it's a bit more than you are looking for.
    I have handled the newer CA Bulldogs and I was not impressed with it. I would like to shoot one perhaps that would change my opinion ?
    I like sgt127 suggestion for a SP101 357 mag. that would likely be my choice.
     
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    Yeah it looks like the CA- Bulldog idea is fading... I know I looked at them a back when the first came out a couple-three decades ago... And back then I just stuck with my old 2.5 inch round butt Model 19.
    I used to have an old S&W Bodyguard as a jacket pocket gun but it was eventually shot loose. (evidence gun that I had to give back when I retired) Plus standard velocity 38s in a snubie are marginal.

    Since I have a couple N-frame in 44 special and a couple SAA Colts as well, so,,,I thought a pocket gun in that chambering might be interesting. And I already have the brass and dies...
    And yeap I have other N-frames in 45 colt, 45 auto, 44 mag and even 38-44 Outdoorsman.

    I guess Taurus makes a model 445 in 44 special... it is supposedly the same size as a model 19 but they only used a 2 inch instead of a 2.5 inch barrel... BUT I have never owned or shot a Taurus
    What S&W should have done was made a K frame 5 shot... But their lawyers probably made them use the thicker L frame.

    My wife carries a KAHR CW9 that works very well and is pretty concealable. I just prefer a revolver for that sort of thing and like big slow moving pieces of lead.
     
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    While a little 45 auto is the correct cartridge for a bad night in the big city.

    I am not all that nuts about using an Auto-loader when I am down to my last chips.

    Wheel-gun advantage in a close up tussle...

    1. Can be fired repeatedly while the muzzle is in contact with the target or target's clothing. Try that with an auto...

    2. Can be fired with a bent (or injured) wrist without causing a malfunction.

    3. Does not need two hands to get back into action in case of a round misfire or malfunction due to wrestling around with your target. Just cycle to the next chamber via trigger pull.

    4. With a hammer-less,(or bobbed hammer) can be fired from inside the jacket pocket with a good chance that it will work at least one more time.


    YEARS AGO ,, S&W should have come up with the 40 or 41 Special. There is a reason why the old 41 Colt was pretty popular in belly guns over 100 years ago...
     
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    Could you please report us your experience if possible?
     
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