The next President

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I'd vote for Howard Dean or Bill Richardson... epecially Richardson- I really hope the Democrats stop being friggin' morons for a moment and vote for someone like Richardson in the primary. If Hillary or someone similarly horrible is the Democratic candidate, I'll have to throw away my vote with the Libertarians. I'm assuming the Republicans will run some "moderate" scumbag like McCain or Gulliani (Think: supports gun control and police state authoritarianism. Bush's flaws, multiplied by 20.)
 
I dont see any good presidential candidates yet. - beerslurpy

I am at a loss too. Has there ever been "a good presidential candidate"? Seems to me you take what you are offered. Frankly, I think really good people are nuts to want the job. First, it's a death wish, and secondly you won't be able to do or say anything "right". The press thrives on negativity, sharks responding to blood in the water. Good stuff isn't news. Where there isn't bad news, they create some. Where there is a sound policy, they portray it as demonic, pandering to antiestablishmentarians. Sniping at the President is a blood sport.

Just a reminder to those in this thread that the original request was for someone electable. He or she cannot be unattractive, must be refreshingly articulate, and cannot be ultra conservative or ultra liberal. Selecting someone based upon litmus tests for what type of Supreme Court nominees they might pick would be an aberration. If that's what happens, this country is truly broken. I think form will win the election, not substance. Thus the Presidency will not make as much difference as people seem to think. Senate races continue to be the most important elections for this country. Those Senators up for reelection in 2006 may well have enough momentum from a win to run for President in the following year. Granted Senators are rarely successful candidates.
 
I'm hoping Condi can be convinced to run. I'd like nothing better than a president who hasn't spent decades angling and coniving for the job. Harry Truman is an excellent example and one of my personal heros despite my Republican orientation. Eisenhower was a general who never held elected office, and he was an OK president. Grant kinda sucked.

Ron Paul or Tom Tancredo are viable possibilities.

Werewolf's agenda in post #23 exactly mirrors my ideas for how to set things right in this country. Not only would I vote for him, I'd go door-to-door AND send $$$$$!!!

Hey, Werewolf, I'd be happy to serve as your VP. I wasn't a general, but I was a Master Gunnery Sergeant. Anybody who's ever been in the military knows that the senior NCO's actually run the show and get things done. Generals just have "big picture" ideas, the senior NCO's convert ideas into action.
 
meef said:
Case in point - Dwight Eisenhower.
You forgot Washington, Jackson.
Then of course there was the infamous US Grant
So it could go both ways.
 
Regarding the founders:
they also never imagined such rabid stupidity.
Actually they did...

Which is why back then one had to be a land owner to vote. The landed gentry were in general well educated and had a vested interest in the well being of the nation.

Now the only vested interest most folks have is in how much they can steal out of the pockets of those that actually produce something. The designated thieves and redistributors are our elected officials.

And thus like all the other democracies in history went so goes ours - the people have finally figured out they can vote themselves into prosperity by stealing from the public coffers filled by those who actually produce something other than hot air.
 
Well stated and very interesting point Werewolf. And something I overlooked, actually I agree completly.

Part of the problem I agree is that people with no intrest of the country are now allowed to make decision's. In fact, that could care less if the country goes belly up and will expect someone to bail them out like someone has all their live's. So long as the goverment take's care of them like a lil baby, they could care less if the people in power are capitalist's (esspecialy don't care for that because they have no intention of earning something where a capitalist socity really help's them), comunist, socialist, faciest, or any other ist that could come to your mind.

Course. You can't revert to that system. Cause then oh my god you'd be denying minority's their right to vote. Because of course, minority's are the only one's that find themselve's in impoverished situation's. Maybe not have to be a land owner. But perhap's something to insure you have at least a basic understanding of politic's other then one guy is a Democrat so he must be for taking care of me and the other is an evil republican.
 
"And thus like all the other democracies in history went so goes ours - the people have finally figured out they can vote themselves into prosperity by stealing from the public coffers filled by those who actually produce something other than hot air."

And if this is so--and I think it is--our priority should not be trying to find an electable candidate for ALL but rather to figure out how we can segregate the producing citizens from the non-producing politically. If we do not draw a line around the values we cherish we will wind up being diluted into nothingness, maybe in as brief as one generation, maybe even less with a little help from Hillary and her friends.
 
Werewolf,

1) I would suggest putting us back on the gold standard.

2) Get rid of the Federal Reserve Bank and hand the responsibility of "coining money and setting the value thereof" back to the Congress per the Constitution.

3) Withdrawl US membership from the UN, make the bastages pay all their parking and traffic citations, deport them to Zimbabwe or other hellhole of their choice and sell off all UN assets.

4) Liberate Canada.
 
And if this is so--and I think it is--our priority should not be trying to find an electable candidate for ALL but rather to figure out how we can segregate the producing citizens from the non-producing politically. If we do not draw a line around the values we cherish we will wind up being diluted into nothingness, maybe in as brief as one generation, maybe even less with a little help from Hillary and her friends.
Unfortunatly, that can't be done without force. And selling that that sort of force is what needed is going to be next to impossible.
 
Ok, why not? You *promise* you'll step down after?

Yep, or you can personally shoot me.

I suspect that after 4 years of complete and total control of the country and complete and total scrutiny by the press, I'd be ready to shoot myself.

Smoke
 
Next President

Condi Rice would be nice - and scare da hell out of the left. What, a woman, an african american woman from the poor South, highly intelligent, highly educated - and the woman can respond to a question far better than most. Hilary's nightmare, I say, especially if her (Condi's) Veep is a caucasian male from the South or the East.

"Where is the weapon with which I enforce your bondage ? You give it to me every time you open your mouth. -Frank Herbert
 
Don't buy what?

That the fed's will use force to keep a state from breaking off? I doubt very highly a state will actually be allowed to leave the union peacefully.

Or that it will be hard to sale forceably leaving? Sure, some people will cheer it. On the course thing's are going it might be doable. But in a lot of state's you are goign to have a hell fo a time getting that to fly.
 
White Horseradish said:
Jesse Ventura. He might not fix everything, but he's sure to shake things up. :neener:

No 3d party will ever win, the statist establishment media would never allow it, nor to mention would the electronic voting machines. :neener:

Ventura didn't even support concealed carry. And the guy who ran for Governor under the Reform Party didn't even support Concealed Carry during the election, only the Republican did and he won.

Talk about being out of touch...
 
"Ventura didn't even support concealed carry"
But he supported hooker's. Some would count that as a fair trade.
 
It's becoming obvious who is positioning themselves for a run right now: McCain, Giuliani, Hillary, New Gingrich, Bill Richardson, Mitt Romney, and a few others I've missed.

None of them are acceptable. No Republican I've seen can win. Except Condi Rice.

It's been over fifty years since we've had someone who previously hadn't held elected office be president. If the Republicans had any gonads at all, they'd start grooming Rice now.

It would be the most exciting race in US history.

If they run McCain or Giuliani, I'm staying home.
 
If they run one of those to, I am becoming either a libertarian or constatutionalist, depending how conservative I feel on that particular day.
 
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