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The power of a .50 cal Desert eagle taken from a Drug raid.

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  1. cracked junior

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    Third paragraph says it all.



    SEATTLE -- Federal agents busted a drug-trafficking ring that distributed methamphetamine and cocaine from Mexico in Washington state and carried unusually powerful weaponry, injecting a dangerous new factor into drug crime in the region.

    A .50-caliber Desert Eagle pistol, AK-47-type semiautomatic assault rifle and 14 other weapons shown to reporters Thursday were among 23 guns seized in Operation Arctic Chill when 35 search warrants were served in the past two weeks. Also seized were 19 pounds of methamphetamine, a quarter-pound of cocaine, 22 vehicles and $60,000 in cash, and 31 people were arrested.

    The Desert Eagle pistol can "blow a hole the size of a Mack truck through a person," said Leigh Winchell, regional chief of Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

    Arnold R. Moorin, special agent in charge of the Drug Enforcement Administration's Seattle office, said the ring was directed by a cartel in Jalisco, Mexico, and could move 50 pounds of crystal meth and "multiple kilograms of cocaine" a month.

    Drug dealing and violence led by Mexican cartels has been an increasing concern in communities nationwide amid a spate of violence on both sides of the border.

    "Knowing that you have meth traffickers on the street carrying .50-caliber handguns or assault rifles is very sobering and is of great concern to us," Winchell said.

    "This number of weapons is unprecedented" for meth and cocaine raids in the Pacific Northwest, U.S. Attorney Jeffrey C. Sullivan added.

    Rampant violence among rival drug cartels in Mexico "has spilled over ... somewhat to the (U.S.) communities on the border," Sullivan said. "Our concern is that, with these kinds of weapons and with traffickers beginning to carry weapons on a more regular basis, we unfortunately could see the same kinds of things here."

    Bonney Lake Police Chief Mike L. Mitchell said patrol officers were gratified by the weapons seizure but had not seen any less drug-related crime or cocaine and meth dealing and usage since the arrests.

    In addition to the 31 people arrested in the drug case, an undisclosed number were detained for potential immigration violations, Winchell said.

    Raids were conducted in Tacoma, Olympia and nearby communities; Vancouver, Wash.; several Seattle suburbs; and Oakdale, Calif., where Moorin said a "superlab" capable of producing 10 pounds of meth at a time was found in a home.

    Family relationships helped ensure loyalty within the group, Winchell and Moorin said.

    The kingpin was identified as Martin Oseguera-Chavez, 50, of Roy. Also arrested and charged were his wife, two of their daughters, one daughter's husband and the other's ex-husband, and the sister of Oseguera-Chavez's wife.

    Oseguera-Chavez, a Mexican citizen who has likely been in the U.S. for more than a dozen years, will likely plead not guilty to drug charges, said Michael Craig Nance, his court-appointed lawyer. He also was detained on an immigration hold. According to court filings, the investigation began April 10, 2008, after a confidential informant told an Immigration and Customs Enforcement agent that the owner of a store in Tacoma was looking for customers who could buy large quantities of meth.

    The store owner's boss turned out to be Oseguera-Chavez, who told another informant he paid $13,000 to $14,000 a pound for meth and sold it for $18,000 to $19,000 in Washington state, a DEA agent wrote. The store owner has been arrested but not charged, said Lorie Dankers, an ICE spokeswoman.

    Only two or three of those in custody were cocaine or meth users, said Emily Langlie, a spokeswoman for the U.S. attorney's office.

    "They don't take these drugs. They just sell them," Sullivan said.

    http://www.fresnobee.com/641/story/1512949.html
     
  2. alsaqr

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    More hype from the feds. The federal agencies make these dope raids and then spin the case like they just captured every dope pusher in the country. In the end it makes very little difference at all.

    The police chief said it all:

     
  3. Schofield3

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    This of course is speaking in technically sound ballistics terms;


    Glad they were able to keep some drugs from being distributed
     
  4. Tim the student

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    AWESOME!!! I need to get my wife and dog one of those for SD. :uhoh:
     
  5. hankdatank1362

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    They're just churching up the "danger" of these weapons so the bust looks more heroic. I don't think there's a great deal of anti-gun bias here, just showboating. Maybe a litle bias, but mostly grandstanding.

    Frankly, I'm much more impressed with the 19 lbs of meth.
     
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    One would think that a person would have to be initially larger than a Mack truck to qualify for the silly statement made by this Winchell character. Not even steroid-addled baseball players, football players, or TV wrestlers fit the bill. But hype is hype, I guess -- regardless of who peddles it.
     
  7. gondorian

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    I think that he meant matchbox truck ;)
     
  8. jimmyraythomason

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    So WHICH Mack truck are they talking about? An "R" model,and "MH" model or possibly a Midliner? Without knowing the model of the Mack truck,how can I relate to the size of the hole blown by the .50DE?
     
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    If it wasn't for all those government agents preventing weapons being shipped to Mexico these guns would be in Tijuana, not Seattle.

    :evil::evil::evil::):):)
     
  10. Still Too Many Choices!?

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    Drugs and guns are bad, mmkay? Know what drugs and guns have in common? They are the litmus test of true freedom in a society. A test we are failing:banghead:!!

    Still 2 Many Choices!?
     
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    I am glad these officers were able to disarm these criminals and seize the poison that they were peddling.
     
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    Shoot, my forty five only makes Buick sized holes in people... guess I need to upgrade
     
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    It's like an 88 Magnum. It shoot through schools......
     

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    So does that mean I can drive my Honda through a person shot with a 9mm? :neener:
     
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    Furthermore, the drugs captured had an estimated street value of 43 bazillion dollars.
     
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    I think someone can get a really funny blog post out of calling the department up as a reporter to ask questions about the article, and then playing stupid/serious/deadpan asking them to technically qualify that as you don't want to post an article that is ignorant about he firearms used in the case.
     
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    He probably thinks that a DE shoots .50BMG. In which case he would still be wrong. :rolleyes:
     
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    A 1911 AC Mack.
     
  19. Savage Shooter

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    That's sig material right there can I use that?:D:what:
     
  20. feedthehogs

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    Who needs a Dessert Eagle when semtex is available at any gun show.:rolleyes:
     
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    The worst problem is that otherwise uninformed people read this tripe and it gets filed away in their subconscious right next to all the things that they have heard and seen about guns in various movies and TV shows.
     
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    All this time I've been using the wrong targets for my Desert Eagle. Something must be wrong with mine. It just makes these 1/2 inch sized holes in anything I have shot with it.

    Now who has some spare Mack trucks sitting around that I can take to the range???????
     
  23. kirklandkie

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    this should read more like this:
    lol.... but as previously stated, it's pretty much showboating

    -kirk
     
  24. highmountain78

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    Some rather inflated statements that are sure to get press and inflame certain members of congress who shall remain nameless; as if we did not know who they are.

    On the plus side, I am glad they took any dope off the street and that also deserves praise.
     
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    More like about the size of a tennis-ball...........

    .....which is all the larger I can get in water-soaked news-print poor-man's ballistic gelatin) at 9 yards (my back yard). Goes through the first grocery-sack of paper (about 7" thick), and exits at about 1 full inch dia. Enters the second sack and penetrates about 3 to 4" and leaves a nicely distorted impact crater of about 3" in the middle of the wet paper. IMI JHP, retains about 90% orig. weight. Fun gun!! Better than drugs!! Well, wait.......burnt powder IS a drug, isn't it??
     
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