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The REAL Hogzilla!...

Discussion in 'Hunting' started by Smitty908, May 17, 2007.

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  1. qajaq59

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    Oh that's easy.... Just walk him to the house and THEN shoot him. :evil:
     
  2. Art Eatman

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    Cold-blooded practicality: Go back and look at the frontal picture, at the hog's mouth. I don't care if the silly thing only weighed 200 or 300 pounds. You get him deciding he oughta go AT you instead of away, and you can be in deep doo-doo in a heartbeat.

    If a big hog stays in a 200-acre pasture, it's because he's happy there, not because of a normal wire fence of the sheep-and-goat variety. Hogs are quite capable of making a hole to go under a fence. Not many 200-acre pastures have chain link fencing that starts from a foot or two underground.

    Back some forty years ago, ranchers around the Texas Hill Country near Leakey had trouble with feral Russian/domestic-mix hogs. Killing lambs and kids in that sheep/goat country. The hogs made holes under the fences. The ranchers figured out booby-trap fusing, and used dynamite. It rained hog and coyote parts fairly regularly for a couple of years...

    About all you can say of feral hogs is that there's some edible meat. That's the only difference between them and coyotes or prairie dogs. (Except that hogs are far more destructive.) How somebody kills one of the (bleeping) things is about as important as how you kill a cockroach or a housefly.

    IMO, FWIW. :)

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  3. kungfuhippie

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    I always go for the one swat one kill method for flies and roaches.
     
  4. jerkface11

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    Who cares if the pig was in a fenced area? It was 200 acres! Not like you could stand there and see the whole area at once. Plus it was a PIG. If it had been wild it needed to be shot because if it's destructive nature. If it wasn't wild it was bred to be killed. Not like this was some rare species. Or even a native one.
     
  5. TCB in TN

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    The only thing I would like to add to the conversation is this, many boar (especially those with a heavy infusion of Russian blood) will have this gristle plate that covers the ribs, which are quite thick and stout as well. I have personally shot a couple of hogs that my bullet didn't punch through, and seen several others. Especially if you get a less than direct 90 degree shot at them. My first experience with that was a 40 yard shot with a 30-06 that it hit the plate, hit the rib, and glance up and came out the skin at the top of the ribs. It broke the rib, but didn't punch through. Now I didn't see this hog, and don't know if he had the "armor" plate but if he did then even a relatively good shot with even such a powerful handgun would be much less effective than most people would imagine.

    BTW Art is correct, hogs are worse than coyotes, they will kill/eat anything they can, they destroy fence like it is nothing, wipe out crops, and after seeing what they do to a dog that is in the wrong place at the wrong time, I can assure you that they would do a number on any of us that was foolish enough or unable to NOT get out of the way.
     
  6. HeedJSU

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    Aight guys, I guess it's real. Here's the local newspaper story.

    It's Real....Look!

    Justin
     
  7. PotatoJudge

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    The link requires a subscription, can you copy and paste?
     
  8. HeedJSU

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    Hog heaven: Taxidermist confirms monster pig
    By Bran Strickland
    Star Sports Editor
    05-23-2007
    Jamison Stone, left, and guide Keith O'Neal of Southeastern Trophy Hunters stand by the monster pig taken by Stone. The pig weighed in at 1,051 pounds. Photo: Southeastern Trophy Hunters

    DELTA — It's real.

    And it's big.

    It's a really big pig.

    Soon after the story began circulating on the Internet of 11-year-old Jamison Stone's harvest of a 1,051-pound feral hog in Delta, the doubters came out in droves.

    But Jerry Cunningham, of Jerry's Taxidermy in Oxford, says he saw it right after it was taken. And he's the one currently in possession of the poker.

    Cunningham was called on to handle the mounting of the animal. He said they told him it was a giant, and, after laying eyes on the animal, he says they weren't exaggerating.

    “Biggest thing I'd ever seen,” he said. “… It's huge.”

    According to Mike Stone, Jamison's father, the hog weighed 1,051 pounds.

    It was weighed at the Clay County Farmer's Exchange in Lineville. Workers at the co-op verified that the scales used, basic truck scales, were recently certified by the state. However, no workers from the co-op were present when the hog was weighed.

    Stone, a Pickensville resident, said the hog was also measured two different ways. Suspended from rear hoof to snout, he was 10 feet, 7 inches. From snout to tail, it was just more than 9 feet.

    The only measurements that can currently be verified — because the hog is in post-processing mode — are sizes of the hog from the shoulder up, the method that the Stones are using to preserve their trophy. Cunningham will have to use those measurements to create a form for the mount, as prefab mounts do not come that big.

    The circumference of the hog's head (across the ears) is 54 inches.

    Around its shoulders, it's 74 inches.

    And the length of its snout — from its eyes to the end of its nose — is 11 inches.

    “I couldn't believe it,” Jamison said after he first saw it. “It was the size of a cow. It was huge.”

    Perhaps as astounding as the size of the hog was how the story got out — or didn't. The old adage of news traveling fast in a small town wasn't quite the case.

    Driving around the dusty backroads of the rural community of Delta, story of the monster pig wasn't widely known. Even in nearby Lineville, the picture that appeared on the front page of Tuesday's Anniston Star was the first many people had heard about it. But in cyberspace, the news has traveled a great deal faster. And let's just say people have gone hog wild.

    In attempts to do something nice for his young son, Mike Stone created a Web site, www.monsterpig.com, to help show off his kill. He also created it to help cut down on the time of sending e-mail out to family and friends.

    However, the simple concept of the Web site has grown into much, much more.

    At the site is a simple recount of the animal, its size and what was used to harvest the hog. It also includes pictures, a way to contact Jamison and some of the e-mails he received — good and bad.

    According to Stone, the host for the Web site (www.godaddy.com) said the number of requests — or hits — totaled 1,246,464 as of Monday.

    Calls have come all the way from California, where Jamison appeared on a radio talk show. According to Mike Stone and the Web site, Jamison has gotten words of congratulation from Rickey Medlocke of Lynyrd Skynyrd, country music star Kenny Chesney, Tom Knapp of Benelli firearms and Jerry Miculek of Smith & Wesson.

    The hunt

    Just as it goes with skinning cats, there's more than one way to harvest a hog.

    Some track them with dogs. Some wait them out in tree stands, and others — braver ones — stalk-hunt the creatures.

    The Stones, manned with guides Keith O'Neal and Chris Williams, chose the latter when purchasing the hunt from Eddy Borden of Lost Creek Plantation.

    It wasn't Stone's first time hog hunting at the preserve. Not long before his son's harvest, he had taken a feral swine himself. At the time, he said he was quite proud of it.

    “It was about 600 pounds,” he said. “I thought it was massive at the time.”

    After using the stalk-hunting method, the weapon of choice was a modified .50-caliber pistol that had been modified with a holographic scope and a ported barrel to cut down on some its recoil. It was also packing a 350-grain Horaday bullet.

    They ventured out and found the hog, and that's when the ordeal started.

    To kill the massive beast, 16 shots were fired — all by Jamison. Approximately nine landed. They tracked — and sometimes were forced to avoid — the hog for more than three hours.

    Just how big again?

    The elder Stone says all he really knew was it was a big pig. Just how big it was — with respect to records — he didn't know.

    “It was a pretty uneventful thing until the day after,” Mike Stone said. “I hadn't seen a lot of pigs up close. I didn't know it was a monster pig. I just knew it was a big as a cow.”

    It wasn't until the day after the hunt when Stone received an e-mail from a friend informing him that, some time ago, Hogzilla had been found to be only 800 pounds (in a National Geographic documentary on the hog). Chris Griffin, who killed the Hogzilla, had said it was in excess of 1,000 pounds.

    “When all that happened, I looked over at my wife and said, 'This is a big deal,'” he said. “Hogzilla wasn't even as big as the one Jamison killed.”

    State records on feral swine are not kept by the Alabama Department of Conservation.

    According to biologists, pigs such as Hogzilla and this one are not the norm. Average free-roaming feral swine grow to modest sizes compared to this beast.

    “You might get a boar that weighs 300 or so,” said Dr. Jim Armstrong, Extension Wildlife Specialist and Associate Professor for Auburn University's School of Forestry and Wildlife Sciences. “That's a big pig.”
     
  9. HeedJSU

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    And it didn't require a subscription for me...I just went to the main page...
    www.annistonstar.com and found it from there.

    I don't take the star.

    Justin

    EDIT: Sorry guys, I was at school on their wireless when I found the page, I guess that's why it didn't require a a subscription. sorry again.

    Justin
     
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  10. welldoya

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    I don't care who's hog it was or how big the area was - there is no reason to not kill an animal quickly and humanely. I'm no tree hugger, I've been hunting for 45 years and have killed everything from doves to deer to hogs.
    Yes, hogs are killed everyday in slaughter houses but I'm pretty sure it doesn't take hours to do it. These people were in this for bragging rights and were either too lazy or too inept to actually hunt like true hunters.
    Anybody who would follow a hog around for hours and let a kid take potshots at him with a gun he has no business using is not a hunter.
    It's people like this that give hunting a bad name.
     
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    Boy kills hog bigger than Hogzilla!!!

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070525/ap_on_fe_st/monster_pig_3;_ylt=AqziA.aDfRjHvtBzRSy1fZ8E1vAI

    MONTGOMERY, Ala. - Hogzilla is being made into a horror movie. But the sequel may be even bigger: Meet Monster Pig. An 11-year-old Alabama boy used a pistol to kill a wild hog his father says weighed a staggering 1,051 pounds and measured 9-feet-4 from the tip of its snout to the base of its tail. Think hams as big as car tires.


    If the claims are accurate, Jamison Stone's trophy boar would be bigger than Hogzilla, the famed wild hog that grew to seemingly mythical proportions after being killed in south Georgia in 2004.

    Hogzilla originally was thought to weigh 1,000 pounds and measure 12 feet in length.
    National Geographic experts who unearthed its remains believe the animal actually weighed about 800 pounds and was 8 feet long....

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    Do I hear an echo?









    RRRRepeat
     
  15. CountGlockula

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    Year supply of bacon and ham. Mmmm.

    That thing is huge!!!
     
  16. kingpin008

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    That can't be real.
     
  17. Steak

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    What in the Heck is in the water down there in Alabama?

    That is one big swine!
     
  18. PRazz

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    Need some help dragging THAT out of the woods. Is that pig for real?
     
  19. meef

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    :what:

    Now there's some food for thought for the people who are always posting asking things like "what handgun caliber for bear", etc.

    Eight times... three hours......

    Hmmm......
     
  20. lacoochee

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    Photoshop is soooo cool. :scrutiny:
     
  21. imprezagm4

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    Oh my goodness... must be fake... listen to this.

     
  22. Guns R Tools

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    It's large one but the boy is posing little far from the pig to make it look much bigger than it actually is.
     
  23. pdowg881

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    You can see he is far behind the hog and resting his arms on his knee.
     
  24. brighamr

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    I wonder how many shots it would've took with a .50 BMG to the head....

    And yes IMO, the boy is strategically placed to make the hog look larger than life
     
  25. Hazzard

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    The S&W .500 has an overall length of 15". Using that as a point of "perspective", the hog in the picture would be nearly 5' from the top of it's back to the underside of it's belly. On it's feet, that would make it over 6' tall at the shoulder. I'm not disputing that the hog weighs that much, just that the picture was taken for maximum effect.
     
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