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The Remington 870 of handguns?

Discussion in 'Handguns: General Discussion' started by dehughes, Aug 19, 2009.

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  1. dehughes

    dehughes Member

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    Hello all,

    Maybe I should have said "the Ruger 10/22 or Marlin 60 or Remington 700 or AK or FAL of handguns?"

    Basically, I'm looking for this in a pistol: Something that is a classic, proven design, crazy reliable, still in current production, easily repaired/maintained and has parts easily sourced for it, in a common caliber, and is easy/comfortable to shoot. I suppose that last one depends on how it feels in my hands, but I'm looking for a pistol that meets the above requirements. I reaaaaly like how the Springfield XD9 feels in my hands, but kinda wonder if it is too complicated (little parts indicating this and that and showing this and telling you that) and would be better off with something dead simple. I'm a fan of "less is more" when it comes to engineering....simpler seems to often be better in life, so I'm leaning somewhat Glock despite the greater comfort of the XD.

    I'm accumulating a "gun base" (no specific use other than covering the bases...pistol, small rifle, shotgun, large bolt rifle, etc..) and am trying to get the basics...hence the Remington 870/Ruger 10/22 reference, as those are kind of my benchmarks within their type/caliber. As it stands now I have an old Springfield .30-06 and a new Remington 870 Marine Magnum, but would like to get a pistol as well as a .22 rifle to fill out the bunch. I'm kinda leaning towards a pistol ...almost purchased a CZ 452 rifle this week as I don't have a .22 yet, but thought a pistol might be the smarter choice to get first.

    Your recommendations are most welcome.

    Thanks!
     
  2. cyclopsshooter

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    1911 man, it is the ultimate toy box and the most reliable as long as stupid stuff isnt done to it
     
  3. scurtis_34471

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    There is no need to worry about the reliability of an XD. They have been torture tested to death and are incredibly durable and reliable. I personally have about 5000 rounds through my XD-40 without a single malfunction.
     
  4. Myles

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    I'd say 1911 or S&W K-Frame Model 10 or Model 66.
    They are the classic examples of autoloader and revolver; they go bang when you pull the trigger, while still being an attractive piece.
     
  5. dehughes

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    Right on. So:

    1911
    XD
    S&W K Frame 66 or 10

    I'll look into those again. However, does anyone make a less-expensive, yet not "cheap", 1911 variant?
     
  6. cyclopsshooter

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    The most bang for your buck will be a used 80 series colt

    others will say taurus, rock island, springfield- springfield is a pretty good gun but stay away from rock island and taurus

    and a smith is a smith, unless it has a lock
     
  7. uh-oh

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    Armscor/ Rock Island Armory makes a great 1911 clone for the budget-minded shooter.
    BTW, the Beretta 92 has been around for decades, has walked the walk with probably billions (if not trillions) of rounds fired through them, and is standard issue for numerous police agencies worldwide, not to mention the United States military. Used with standard ammo, it will probably outlast the average gun owner.
     
  8. BCRider

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    If you're after basic guns that have some history behind them then the XD is still a newbie with a shorter history. Not that it's in any way a bad or complicated gun. But that didn't seem to be where you are heading.

    For your case there's two handguns to add to your basic and somewhat historical collection. A 1911 and a revolver. To keep the historical connection the 1911 should be a genuine Colt. And the S&W should be a K frame model 19 with the option of an N framed 27 or 28 if you intend to shoot a lot of magnum through it. Both of these guns are basic, all metal and have a long background of history in America.

    On the other hand if you like the feel of the XD and it shoots well under your control then just buy the darn thing and don't worry about it. There's lots of XD folks out there that are using them without issues and, being a current production gun, there won't be parts availability issues for at least the next decade or more.
     
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    I nominate the Ruger GP100 in .357 as the "870 of handguns".

    Solid. Easy to operate. Fun to shoot. Great for self-defense, plinking, target shooting and hunting. Shoots .38 special and .357 magnum. Great first handgun.

    1911 is a bit less of an all-around gun, but certainly a close second.
     
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    S&W K Frame.
     
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    For the money....the K frame - pick a model......
     
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    Ruger Security Six (Or GP100 for current production guns)
    S&W 686
    S&W Model 10
    Glock 17
     
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    1911 and FN HP-35 aka the Browning Hi-Power. Classics that are hard to not love. Also very fond of the CZ 75.
     
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    Remington 870 = Smith & Wesson Model 10!
     
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    Glock. End of story.

    I don't even own one.

    SIG P226 or 1911 if you don't like the Glock's grip angle.
     
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    All of the guns mentioned are excellent choices, and I have shot or own most of them.

    When something goes bump in the night I'm reaching for the XD..........If for some reason the 870 isn't there:D
     
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    Glock 34 in 9mm would be my pick.
     
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    Wow. Thanks for all the recommendations. To be clear, I'm NOT "collecting" guns so much as looking for solid, reliable, great pieces to buy, use, and KEEP FOREVER. I'm a musician and have spent soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo much money over the years on guitars and amps and tubes and speakers and drums and cymbals and microphones and gear that is "good", but not that kind of intangible, mysterious "great"...that kind of great that you just know when you pick it up and hear it for the first time. I've known what history has deemed "great": Fender/Marshal/Vox...Martin, Gibson, etc...yet I tried the latest-greatest and the fancy and the shortcut. If I'd have just bought the best and cried once, I'd have saved myself hundreds if not thousands of dollars on the "experimental" purchase. I'd like to avoid this same mistake in the realm of firearms...

    This isn't to say "oh yes, I want to drop $3k on a pistol", but rather to say that I'm sure I could put $600 or so into a great piece and never have to replace it due to impracticality/uselessness/poor quality/etc.. I want the Fender Telecaster of pistols. ;)

    So yes, Sig P226 has been on my radar, but I've seemed to stay in the $500-ish range of the Glock 17 and Springfield XD for some reason. The 1911 seems cool, but maybe too much $$$ for the fancy models. Is there a "basic", non-pretty yet equally as functional and well built 1911? I don't need pretty so much as I need "never regretted buying it". Revolvers are, for some reason, not attractive to me. Can't explain...seem to gravitate towards semi-auto, though I know that goes against the "simpler is better" ideals I swear by. Ah, the inconsistencies of my own nature...
     
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    Ruger GP100 or Security Six

    You can beat the living daylights out of these things and they'll come back for more.

    I had an old 870 that I used for everything. It was indestructible. I wish I had never sold it.
     
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    S&W 686?

    Not a semi-auto, reliabile, has a lot of history, and packs a lot of power.

    Can't really see comparing a semi-auto pistol to a pump shotgun, but if I had to I'd probably say 1911 as well.
     
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    1911 and Glock both fit the bill, regardless of their own dichotomy.

    If you want something specific out of your 1911, chances are, there's already a way to do that. Ditto with the Glock.
     
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    agree with rx-178, my two favourite pistols a 1911 and glock, both reliable, accurate, durable, easy to repair or mod, and comfortable (for me anyway). go with a springfield or colt 1911 and whatever glock that suits you and you will not be disappointed.
    ps xds are pretty much as good as glocks in my book so they are a good way to go too
     
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    Cheap, ugly, readily available 870=Glock 17 or 19


    1911 or BHP= Auto 5 or Win M12. :D
     
  24. dehughes

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    Nice... :)
     
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    I think by definition it can't be an auto, so - S&W Model 10
     
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