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The return of Iver Johnson

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Slater, Aug 29, 2008.

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  1. Slater

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    Looks like they bought the name.
     
  3. Coyote3855

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    My very first handgun was an Iver Johnson "Trailsman 66," an 8-shot break-top .22 revolver I bought new in 1960 for about $35. It was the least reliable firearm I've ever owned. Back to the factory twice for timing issues (admittedly I shot the heck out of it, but it was never mistreated.) When it still didn't work after two factory visits, I traded it for a Ruger Single Six. Still have it, never a misfire in 45 years or so.

    I'd let someone else be the beta tester on these. Wonder who's really making the guns?
     
  4. damien

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    They are going to manufacture a "Pony 380". Is this going to be based on the Colt Pony .380? It would be nice to have those back in production, they are missed and used ones are pretty expensive.
     
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    If they could somehow make that M1 carbine at a price-point less than $500, I think they'll sell tons of them.
     
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    didn't Iver Johnson take over the 380 that FI sold as the Mod. D,which was a mis que of a Colt 380 made by Star,about 1970 ish. I have a FI Mod. D,great little 380,but heavy for a pocket pistol. jwr
     
  7. rklessdriver

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    I'd bet anything the 1911's are re badged Armscore/RIA's.

    As for the rest of it. I hope these guys bought up Iver Johnsons mfgr tooling as well as the name.

    Their M1 Carbines were pretty darn nice. GI spec every peice of them. I have one I bought when IAI was selling off the last of the orginal Iver Johnson made recievers in the laste 90's. It's a very nice little rifle.

    Now if they do bring back the 380 Pony I'm in for one.
    Will
     
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    when ever i hear Iver Johhson i think of Sirhan Sirhan
     
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    Unlikely. Their Commander-size pistols are the authentic 4-1/4" barrel length. Armscor's "mid-size" pistols are 4".

    Another company in the Philippines, Shooters' Arms (a.k.a. S.A.M.) does offer a true 4-1/4" Commander. These may be made by S.A.M.
     
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    I shot my Iver Johnson pocket pistol TP .22 today. Still shoots well. I wish the new company well.
     
  11. SomeKid

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    Has anyone bought from them yet?

    I am really tempted to jump on that conversion kit and a .45 pistol. Nice prices.
     
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    I still have my Great Grandma's topbreak 32. It is at least 100 years old and not worth much other than sentimental value. She used to sleep with it under her pillow and used it to shoot at bandidos that would cross the border and trespass or steal chickens.
     
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    Just because someone bought the name doesn't make me think of it as a real Iver Johnson.
     
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    I wish them well, and it would be great if they'd bring back their M-1 carbines, but I sure hope they pay more attention to the business than they do to the text on their website (some very obvious typos/misspellings).
     
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    if those prices are MSRP, then cost will be significantly less, and list price may hit around $350 or so. maybe I could afford a 1911, with a new (hopefully) sub $500 M1 carbine, assuming this stuff works well, the only problem I could see is actually getting your hands on one.

    here's to hoping

    Hatchet.
     
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    They're claiming that all their 1911 models are US made, so maybe Essex?
     
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    Trying to figure out what "shiney silver" means. I sure hope the 1911's aren't made of silver.
     
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    Huh, I'm not even 30, but "Iver Johnson" reminds me of a much older reference:

    William McKinley, he didn't do no wrong,
    He just went down to Buffalo but he didn't stay too long.

    The man who shot McKinley, he never took a stand
    He just fired his little pistol when he reached to shake his hand

    And the people they came running round to see what had been done
    They said "You have shot the President with your Iver Johnson gun".


    From the old ballad "Hard Times" about the anarchist Leon Czolgosz assasinating President McKinley in 1901...
     
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    Meh........Just .45's and parts. Or did I miss something?
     
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    That would be my guess as well. Fastest way to get into low priced 1911s. If not Armscor, somebody else in Asia/Pacific.

    Could be interesting. Wonder what it would cost, who would actually manufacture it, and how it would compete against the LCP.

    A certain well known Internet essayist likes his Star .380.

    A little history.

     
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    Little bit of history. Lock Stock and Barrel, Temple City Ca. The owners wife sold Sirhan Sirhan an Ivers Johson. The gun that shot Robert F. Kennedy.

     
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    The triumphant return of the break-top revolver in .38 Colt New Police? Huzzah! :D
    I have an old Second Model from 1908-12 range that was my grandpa's. Sadly, I have never fired it, as the cylinder and top latch are kinda sloppy, and I'm not willing to take a chance with it. Makes a neat wall display in the little wood and glas box I built for it, along with a vintage box of Winchester Staynless ammo for it, on display in the case with it.

    I agree they'd make a KILLING with sub $600 M1 carbines if they can do it. LOTS of people would like to get one that have no real interst in the history of the guns, and thus dont know about CMP, and/or shy away from "surplus" and "old" guns thunking they are old, worn out, poor quality, etc. They could do real well in the ranch rifle, truck gun, HD carbine market I think with such a light, hand semi like the M1.
     
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    I also agree that they could make a killing by reintroducing the M1 Carbine. Also, I don't know if IJ ever made Thompsons, but a semi-auto Thompson, like the Auto-Ord ones but affordable, would also probably be a good sale. You could offer it in wood and .45, and you could update it with a polymer stock and offer in 9mm and .40 S&W. Drum mags and foregrips optional.


    Also, if they made a top-break .22lr revolver, preferably 9-shot, for about $150, that would put Heritage Arms out of business. I mean, single actions are fun, but DA topbreaks are really fun, especially with auto-ejectors.

    They also used to make single-barrel shotguns. I have an old "Champion" .410 that was my grandpa's. I'd love to see them reintroduce these. I don't know if they ever made pumps, but if they did, sell those too. Simple wood, blue steel, .410. Get 'em to Dicks, Gander Mtn, Cabelas, Big 5, and Wal-Mart, and you've got a seller.
     
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    Were the FI and IJ .380 autos the same as the Llama .380, or a different design?

    How do those relate to the Colt Mustang, et al? I thought that Colt had to drop production of the Mustang because they infringed on a Kahr patent. Or am I just confusing multiple 1911-like .380s?
     
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    While a M1 Carbine below $500 would be nice. A Super Enforcer would be nicer.
     
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