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The Roommate did something dumb today!

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by vis-à-vis, Feb 27, 2007.

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  1. vis-à-vis

    vis-à-vis Member

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    The background of this is I decided to open carry my Glock today.

    I was in the doorway to the Kitchen talking to my roommate Charles as he was doing the dishes today. As we were talking someone started grabbing hard at my gun and I jumped into threat mode. My arm clamped down in order to retain the gun and I moved to put him in front of me. It was my other roommate being 'funny.' When I did that he let go and I just said to him as seriously as I could, "Do you want to die?!"

    I did not appreciate that and I am pretty sure he now knows that not only is that stupid and not safe, but that I could have shot him or he could have shot me! :banghead:

    Anyone ever done that to you?
     
  2. ShackleMeNot

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    I'm not asking to be an ass but how old are you?
     
  3. CountGlockula

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    Never happened to me but: Horseplaying (or playing grab arse) and guns don't mix.
     
  4. GunNut

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    He won't do that again.:D

    I'd watch who you open carry around, friends think it is funny to touch your stuff.

    Steve
     
  5. Geno

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    That would be uncomfortable

    Even in my own home, I try to keep my pistols covered 24/7. Why? Several reasons. First, the don't potentially intimidate family. Also, others (guests) are unaware. Unfortunately, roommates will be roommates. People mature at different rates, and he was probably simply being light-hearted. For me, I feel that what people cannot see, they are not inclined to grab. Glad nothing went too far out of line. Bullets errantly-fired are a lot like words carelessly-spoken...once they depart the point of origin, they can't be put back. Glad everyone’s o’kay.
     
  6. exar

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    Not to me personally, but I have heard that same scenario repeated countless times. I think it might possibly be the #1 "prank" to pull on someone who has a gun showing. Why? Anyone with reason and logic will never know. This is a real problem for anyone, but especially police. Police deal with many retards on a daily basis.
     
  7. vis-à-vis

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    I am 23. Why?
     
  8. Big Calhoun

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    No, no horseplay. I do open carry inside my home but it's only me and the wife. Outside the home or when guests are over, strictly concealed. It's not a topic of conversation, it's not a 'show and tell' moment....just drink your tea, shutup, and pass me the remote. :D
     
  9. gunsmith

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    your roomate

    is an idiot.
    Is he on medication?
    being that you were doing dishes you should have clobbered him with the fry pan!
    I'm serious, it's not assault if he was grabbing your gun.
     
  10. JohnL2

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    If anyone did that to me there would be an extremely high likelihood that they would be belted in the face.
     
  11. gunsmith

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    carry a knife weak side

    when people grab your gun , stab them in the hand.
    They stop doing that.
    invest in a good retention holster.
     
  12. bogie

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    Guys, you need to EDUCATE the people around you. Given that most of the folks in the world, a lot of you guys included, have gained most of their information from television, we've got a long way to go.

    Now put your pen... er... gun somewhere where they can't play with it.
     
  13. MRIman

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    An elbow to the nose will do the job.
    A broken nose,and a pair of black eyes go
    a long way. He will not do it again.
    Been thier,done that.

    MRI
     
  14. Geno

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    Look into some dress vests

    I frequently wear vests. I have some that are casual, some that are fancy! They come in cotton, silk, leather, you name it. They look great, are toasty warm and keep personal items like your firearms concealed. Being that you’re in Kentucky, chilly, it won’t look too out-of-place.
     
  15. rustymaggot

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    why were you open carrying around the house with your friends there? and why do you keep friends like that around?

    +1 on smacking him as hard as you can when he grabs for the gun. stabbing your friend is a bit much in my mind but hey, its your call.
     
  16. vis-à-vis

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    He is 27 and we are all gun owners and all have been in Christian ministry. We tend to lean toward maturity and this was a rare slip for him in the area of anything irresponsible. He's a good roommate and so I'm not going to send him packing on this one. The threat of death was plenty for him, I believe.
     
  17. Geno

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    Voice of reason

    Maybe I'm missing the intended jokes here, but in case I'm not, let me be a voice of reason.

    Our friend, here, was wearing his pistol. Those who have encouraged inflicting pain on the roommate, at least in Michigan, if you are in possession of a firearm at the time you commit a crime, it becomes and instant felony...i.e. assault.

    Now, if I am over reacting, I sincerely apologize. We need to exercise reason. I would hate for the antis to look in here and see us encouraging violence with carrying.

    JMHO,

    Doc2005
     
  18. Mandirigma

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    Had it happen about a month ago at work. Had a guy at work decide it would be "fun" to sneak up behind me and grab my knife. All he got for his trouble, as the knife stayed in its sheath, was my heel stomped into his foot and an elbow to his throat (wasn't aimed, just thrown) and I spun with my arms raised to fight.

    "Dude I was just playing" was the answer I got. I just looked him dead in the eye and said "Don't"

    Just to make sure, I'm not condoning violence. What happened was an automatic response. Too many years of training, and a broken OODA loop. I didn't think about what I was doing, I just acted. I actually even dropped what was in my hands to free them up.

    He makes noise whenever he is behind me now. Whats is interesting is the looks on peoples faces who saw what happened. A couple of them even saw him sneaking up on me. One of the girls got mad at me "Why did you have to hit him?" I just pivoted and showed her my knife. He went for that.
     
  19. Baba Louie

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    No

    There is no horseplay when deadly weapons are concerned.
    You know that.
    I know that.
    Now, even your roommate knows that.
    I'd prefer to calmly discuss it beforehand whenever that's a possibility, but it sounds like he heard the short, quick version.

    When you say "open carry" was it IWB carry w/ grip exposed or OWB?
     
  20. Dorryn

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    I carry Condition 1. No friend I have would be so stupid to even joke about it. ;)
     
  21. ShackleMeNot

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    I asked how old you are to get a gauge of your frame of reference with how long you have carried and the probable age of your roommate.

    Many people think open carry is superior to concealed because they can access the gun faster and some like the statement of having an obvious gun on their hip.

    Open carry also has at least one serious down side. Everyone knows you are carrying a gun and you need to be in control of what other people are doing around you at all times.

    Your roommate needs to understand that he shouldn't joke around when it comes to guns but you also learned a cheap lesson that open carry invites stupidity that you have to be ready to handle.

    Last, I don’t think saying, “Do you want to die?!” has any value in a situation where you didn’t really need to kill anyone. Were you really going to shoot him?
     
  22. Aguila Blanca

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    Find new roommates.

    Quickly.

    The ones you have are irresponsible ... and stupid. Bad combination.
     
  23. Standing Wolf

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    I'll second that.
     
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    I know that what you say is true, but I'm still astounded that anyone can think that grabbing a cop's gun as a "prank" is a good idea. Sounds to me like an invitation for the application of extreme Darwin Principle.
     
  25. Aguila Blanca

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    You're not overreacting, Doc, you're just plain wrong. Since when is self defense a crime, even in Michagan?

    If I have a lethal weapon strapped to my body and someone is trying to take that lethal weapon away from me ... my life is in danger and I am entitled to defend myself using the degree of force necessary. Since the weapon being grabbed is a lethal weapon, I am justified in using lethal force to defend myself. A broken nose is nothing compared to what the idiot could get.

    "Just horseplay" you say? Yeah, but suppose the idiot fumbles as he grabs MY gun out of MY holster. That gun is next to MY body, and I am as likely as anyone to get shot if the idiot happens to grab the gun by the trigger.

    Sorry, but I don't think using force to retain control of MY gun would constitute assault. The idiot's grabbing my gun is the assault ... his action places me in danger of immediate death or serious injury.
     
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