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The RUGER OLD ARMY Club

Discussion in 'Blackpowder' started by ClemBert, Aug 11, 2010.

  1. rodwha

    rodwha Member

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    The barrel is that of a 45 Colt Blackhawk. The grooves are .452", but it's the chambers that make this size debatable. My chambers measure ~.453-.454" and so these may very well move under recoil. At worst you may get a chain fire.

    But there are some guys who seem to make these work well.

    A fellow had sent me some of his 200 grn SWC bullets, which didn't work well, but I turned them backwards, as I've read of a few guys doing, and used them as WC's, which worked fairly well. I'm wondering if some were just oversized or if it may have been due to dirty chambers as I had been firing a bunch of bullets, though I use Triple 7 and don't see much fouling...
     
  2. ClemBert

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    11. MCgunner 12.madcratebuilder 13. AbitNutz 14. eastbank 15. robert garner
    16. philuk44 17. HUnter58 18. arcticap 19. BullRunBear 20. theotherwaldo
    21. SC Slowhand 22. Prairie Dawg 23. wittzo 24. Tallbald 25. Smokin_Gun
    26. OB One 27. jungle 28. plumbernater 29. daveinvegas 30. JanZ
    31. George Mabry 32. Benmathes 33. Loosenock 34. higene 35. Rock Island
    36. Erich 37. robhof 38. J-Bar 39. Nomad, 2nd 40. TAURUSBOB
    41. martindl99 42. Vermonter 43. wasatch 44. fogg64 45. BConklin
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    71. Cult of 1858 72. Jaymo 73. bigbore442001 74. Engineer Bill 75. azyogi
    76. Dr. Leaky 77. Clermont 78. Indy4570 79. ozarkguy 80. Plastikosmd
    81. mrdo1 82. bax504 83. Constrictor 84. BC Mosaic 85. clepidus
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    91. SUMIKITO 92. ChasMack 93. Larry Flett 94. RugerShawn 95. tdperry
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    121. wap41 122. DurangoKid 123. Yamavira 124. Onty 125. 4speed
    126. legend 550 127. bri1462 128. regniflow 129. CageDodger 130. HPBroker
    131. mattusmc45 132. 303 133. Jersey Joe 134. Psycho 135. Cast of One
    136. sammass 137. jgray 138. bothenook 139. keybuck 140. davepool
    141. whitetailbob 142. eddie56 143. wklaus 144. cane 145. dickydalton
    146. Sumika 147. woodnbow 148. DMZ 149. white smoke 150. karlthev
    151. The-Reaver 152. Beetle-Bailey 153. cwo2lt 154. snakeman 155. BHP FAN
    156. grter 157. aHFo3 158. Joe Meyer 159. Wild Tom Hipshot 160. mntns2oceans
    161. Btc624 162. kendak 163. pardiniman

    :p
     
  3. bothenook

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    ROA's in the wild......
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  4. J-Bar

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    SLEEPY ROAs

    Tucked in for the night...
     

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  5. d-a

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    Can i get added to the ROA club. Here is mine next to my '58 Rem.

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    d-a
     
  6. toolslinger

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    Howdy all y'all. I finally scored a fair to middlin ROA off one o the auction sites. Seeing the prices folks are charging I think I got a good deal at $368.00 including shipping.
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    She seems to be mechanically sweet although with some honest age appropriate for a 1978 era revolver.
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    Unfortunately I seem to have gotten the ugliest set of Italian copy ORANGE grips ever.
    That's ok though as I don't like the grip frame size anyway. I don't much care for the little bitty ,pinky droppin Colt Navy sized handle. I much prefer the Army length
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    I have been searching far and wide for an old style Super Blackhawk frame to no avail. I will, however, adapt and overcome. Note the background wood bits in the pics. I plan on carvin myself out a longer set o grips similar to TALLBALD'S back on page 3.
     
  7. kituwa

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    Nice gun. You could prolly use super blackhawk grips and add a piece of walnut to the bottom making a one piece grip like a 1860 colt. You would have to remove the locator pin in your grip frame and use two screws to hold the grips on. I do have a set of Ajax faux ivory grips that would look better than what you have and also have a pair of the ruger medalions that you could use on the ivory onesor on a set you make if you want to go that route.
     
  8. toolslinger

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    Thanks kituwa. I am a pretty fair woodworker so I will be building a new set of grips from scratch. I would be interested in the Ruger medallions. Please PM with a price.
     
  9. ClemBert

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    06. adaptandovercome 07. 461 08. junkman_01 09. lonewolf5347 10. rcflint
    11. MCgunner 12.madcratebuilder 13. AbitNutz 14. eastbank 15. robert garner
    16. philuk44 17. HUnter58 18. arcticap 19. BullRunBear 20. theotherwaldo
    21. SC Slowhand 22. Prairie Dawg 23. wittzo 24. Tallbald 25. Smokin_Gun
    26. OB One 27. jungle 28. plumbernater 29. daveinvegas 30. JanZ
    31. George Mabry 32. Benmathes 33. Loosenock 34. higene 35. Rock Island
    36. Erich 37. robhof 38. J-Bar 39. Nomad, 2nd 40. TAURUSBOB
    41. martindl99 42. Vermonter 43. wasatch 44. fogg64 45. BConklin
    46. Howdy Doody 47. bushrod2 48. rdstrain49 49. FirinFlatTop 50. rem1858
    51. straight-shooter 52. edorfox 53. KevininPa 54. Ringo1234 55. pohill
    56. The Don 57. jeepcoma 58. Dave Markowitz 59. Chazz 60. andrewstorm
    61. Steel Wheels 62. Legionnaire 63. NineMilePete 64. 94RUGER 65. Acorn Mush
    66. R.Ganister 67. Boom-stick 68. Buddy 69. Ghost Dog 70. BML
    71. Cult of 1858 72. Jaymo 73. bigbore442001 74. Engineer Bill 75. azyogi
    76. Dr. Leaky 77. Clermont 78. Indy4570 79. ozarkguy 80. Plastikosmd
    81. mrdo1 82. bax504 83. Constrictor 84. BC Mosaic 85. clepidus
    86. did 87. gunboat57 88. Malachi Leviticus Blue 89. Blue Hill 90. Power Keg
    91. SUMIKITO 92. ChasMack 93. Larry Flett 94. RugerShawn 95. tdperry
    96. Rettech 97. renoman 98. tk1971 99. Curator 100. Dan Carey
    101. Old No7 102. Muddydogs 103. Oldnamvet 104. 6.5x55swedish 105. crazysccrmd
    106. Jim, West PA 107. rodwha 108. Varmiter 109. Indian Outlaw 110. Patocazador
    111. Fingers McGee 112. h0use 113. Huntingsaddles 114. GregP42 115. esims
    116. Doak 117. BubbaGoose 118. FreddyKruger 119. Calvados 120. ruger357
    121. wap41 122. DurangoKid 123. Yamavira 124. Onty 125. 4speed
    126. legend 550 127. bri1462 128. regniflow 129. CageDodger 130. HPBroker
    131. mattusmc45 132. 303 133. Jersey Joe 134. Psycho 135. Cast of One
    136. sammass 137. jgray 138. bothenook 139. keybuck 140. davepool
    141. whitetailbob 142. eddie56 143. wklaus 144. cane 145. dickydalton
    146. Sumika 147. woodnbow 148. DMZ 149. white smoke 150. karlthev
    151. The-Reaver 152. Beetle-Bailey 153. cwo2lt 154. snakeman 155. BHP FAN
    156. grter 157. aHFo3 158. Joe Meyer 159. Wild Tom Hipshot 160. mntns2oceans
    161. Btc624 162. kendak 163. pardiniman 164. d-a 165. toolslinger

    Welcome d-a & toolslinger! :):)
     
  10. imforguns

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    Just got this one today!

    Enjoy your forum!

    Here is one I just got today.
    It was manufactured 1973.

    Thanks!

    Jim C
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  11. toolslinger

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    Nice find. You got the cool Bianchi holster too!
     
  12. EmGeeGeorge

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    Just got it. Unfired, no turn line.
     

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  13. J-Bar

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    Hope you will correct that as soon as possible!!
     
  14. EmGeeGeorge

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    Yeah, prolly tomorrow assuming the shop/range has .457 balls.
    Ordered some treso nipples too.
     

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  15. rodwha

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    Does anyone have some cast Lee 220 grn conicals they can measure the length of?
     
  16. Rojelio

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    Yep, they're about .595" long.
     
  17. MRRAGPICKER

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    I hope the pic works. !st time here.
     
  18. rodwha

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    Nice job on that pistol!

    I'm guessing it's about 4" of barrel? Have you shot BP through it and noticed unburned powder expelled?

    I've been thinking something like what you've done would be good on an 1858, but many feel that wouldn't leave enough barrel to properly burn powder on a fair charge of 30-35 grns (3F).
     
  19. MRRAGPICKER

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    thanks, Yes I have fired it with BP. Actually I use the Hogdon 30 grain solid pellet. It does spew fire. I'll have chronograph numbers next week. I built that revolver out of a 7.5" barrel and upper frame. I had to buy everything else from ROAparts, gunpartscorp, gunbroker, midway, ebay and brownells.
     
  20. ClemBert

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    01. ClemBert 02. Eights 03. kanook 04. kwhi43@kc.rr.com 05. mykeal
    06. adaptandovercome 07. 461 08. junkman_01 09. lonewolf5347 10. rcflint
    11. MCgunner 12.madcratebuilder 13. AbitNutz 14. eastbank 15. robert garner
    16. philuk44 17. HUnter58 18. arcticap 19. BullRunBear 20. theotherwaldo
    21. SC Slowhand 22. Prairie Dawg 23. wittzo 24. Tallbald 25. Smokin_Gun
    26. OB One 27. jungle 28. plumbernater 29. daveinvegas 30. JanZ
    31. George Mabry 32. Benmathes 33. Loosenock 34. higene 35. Rock Island
    36. Erich 37. robhof 38. J-Bar 39. Nomad, 2nd 40. TAURUSBOB
    41. martindl99 42. Vermonter 43. wasatch 44. fogg64 45. BConklin
    46. Howdy Doody 47. bushrod2 48. rdstrain49 49. FirinFlatTop 50. rem1858
    51. straight-shooter 52. edorfox 53. KevininPa 54. Ringo1234 55. pohill
    56. The Don 57. jeepcoma 58. Dave Markowitz 59. Chazz 60. andrewstorm
    61. Steel Wheels 62. Legionnaire 63. NineMilePete 64. 94RUGER 65. Acorn Mush
    66. R.Ganister 67. Boom-stick 68. Buddy 69. Ghost Dog 70. BML
    71. Cult of 1858 72. Jaymo 73. bigbore442001 74. Engineer Bill 75. azyogi
    76. Dr. Leaky 77. Clermont 78. Indy4570 79. ozarkguy 80. Plastikosmd
    81. mrdo1 82. bax504 83. Constrictor 84. BC Mosaic 85. clepidus
    86. did 87. gunboat57 88. Malachi Leviticus Blue 89. Blue Hill 90. Power Keg
    91. SUMIKITO 92. ChasMack 93. Larry Flett 94. RugerShawn 95. tdperry
    96. Rettech 97. renoman 98. tk1971 99. Curator 100. Dan Carey
    101. Old No7 102. Muddydogs 103. Oldnamvet 104. 6.5x55swedish 105. crazysccrmd
    106. Jim, West PA 107. rodwha 108. Varmiter 109. Indian Outlaw 110. Patocazador
    111. Fingers McGee 112. h0use 113. Huntingsaddles 114. GregP42 115. esims
    116. Doak 117. BubbaGoose 118. FreddyKruger 119. Calvados 120. ruger357
    121. wap41 122. DurangoKid 123. Yamavira 124. Onty 125. 4speed
    126. legend 550 127. bri1462 128. regniflow 129. CageDodger 130. HPBroker
    131. mattusmc45 132. 303 133. Jersey Joe 134. Psycho 135. Cast of One
    136. sammass 137. jgray 138. bothenook 139. keybuck 140. davepool
    141. whitetailbob 142. eddie56 143. wklaus 144. cane 145. dickydalton
    146. Sumika 147. woodnbow 148. DMZ 149. white smoke 150. karlthev
    151. The-Reaver 152. Beetle-Bailey 153. cwo2lt 154. snakeman 155. BHP FAN
    156. grter 157. aHFo3 158. Joe Meyer 159. Wild Tom Hipshot 160. mntns2oceans
    161. Btc624 162. kendak 163. pardiniman 164. d-a 165. toolslinger
    166. imforguns 167. EmGeeGeorge 168. MRRAGPICKER

    Welcome imforguns, EmGeeGeorge, MRRAGPICKER! :):):)
     
  21. davepool

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    Do you use a wad over the pellet? What cap are you using?
     
  22. MRRAGPICKER

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    No, but I do use a felt over powder, haven't had any problems with the pellets. I use #1075 Vorderladen-Zundhutchen caps. I've got a couple of cans of em. I don't know if you can still get them, I've had enough to do me for a while, I haven't looked for them lately.
     
  23. SUMIKITO

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    MRRAGPICKERS nice belly gun..........

    That's a nice shorty ROA you have there MRRAGPICKER, mind telling us more on how you went about with the birds head grip and all the parts, fitting etc. Cool gun. I have a spare fixed sight ROA I'd like to turn into one like yours. :)
     
  24. MRRAGPICKER

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    Well, I’ve had the “stock” ROA for over 10 years and was always wanting to get the 5 1/2” version to make a cool set. Then the prices went sky high. So I decided to get a 7 ½” barrel and loading lever and shorten it to make a “kit” that I could swap on my “stock” gun. So about a month ago I finally found a barrel, but it was a barrel and empty upper frame. So since I got the frame too I figured I’d just make another gun instead. I decided that maybe one day I’ll happen upon a good deal on a 5 ½” gun, so why not make a hide out gun . I think it would be really cool now with the three different gun set. Anyway, I cut the barrel down to 4” from cylinder face. I had to buy all the other parts. I got the Bird grip frame from midway. It was oversized, so I had to file it down to within a 64th or so and then dremel it the rest of the way. Got the grips off ebay. The trigger is a blue power trigger from brownells. A stainless trigger is next to impossible to find. The timing was off, so I shortened the pawl a hair and it locks up perfect. I took it to a gunsmith to put the front sight on. I was under the impression he could handle it. I got it back 1 week later. He told me he had a hard time getting it to silver solder into the groove he milled in, so he J-B welded it on. I took it home and scraped off the epoxy and clean out the groove. I loaded up a roll of stainless wire into my mig welded and dropped a bead on each side of the blade sight, then ground it down and polished it all up with some stainless polish I got from Eastwood. With cowboy load 45 colts it holds a six shot 2” group at 25 feet. I’m going to get some chrony numbers between the two gun soon.
     
  25. SUMIKITO

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    MRRAGPICKER's ROA Shorty.............

    Great work there MRRAGPICKER. A lot of knowhow and patience went into that "ROA Shorty". Great work! Thanks for sharing with us all of that info. Like they say nowadays, and I think all of us 'young shooters' would say here. SWEET! :)
     

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