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The RUGER OLD ARMY Club

Discussion in 'Blackpowder' started by ClemBert, Aug 11, 2010.

  1. Patocazador

    Patocazador Member

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    I Might Have Found The Load

    I've been trying for months to work up an accurate load for my ROA using Doak's capsules and BH 209 powder. :banghead:

    I started with a cast 255gr. RNFP and tried every mathematical way to get a good, accurate hunting load ... No dice.

    Yesterday I may have found the "Philosopher's Stone'.
    I used a 200 grain cast R.E.A.L. bullet with 20 gr. by weight of BH 209 and separated the bullet from the powder with a 1/8" felt wad lightly lubricated with Bore Butter. The bullets were lubed with Lyman's Black Powder Gold.

    I shot a 4-shot 2" group with shots #2, 3, & 4 being 3/4". :D
    It was shot at 35 yards from a sandbag. Shots #5 & 6 opened the group up to 4 1/2" due, I suspect, to a fouled barrel. No swabbing was done.
     
  2. robert garner

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    Pat it's good to hear someone using Doaks capsules,I was starting to wonder after all the hoopla,why is it so quiet? Hopefully more reports will start coming in.Good luck in your search for a good load.
    robert
     
  3. rodwha

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    Pato: I thought you had trouble getting BH209 to ignite with primers and attempts to make it work by using a duplex created low velocities? Please go into detail on what you've done! I'm hoping to work on my own testing soon with capsules by Doak.
     
  4. Patocazador

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    I only had 2 failures with the Rem. 7 1/2 primers out of over 100 rounds fired. Both were due to "operator error".
    I never used a duplex load with primers. I tried a few duplex loads with percussion caps before using the capsules.

    (I've explained this to you 3 times now. Please pay attention.)
     
  5. J-Bar

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    Ok, it's been a week!

    Where are you guys? No posts on the ROA Club Thread for a week!

    Just to bring it back to the top, the lucky hatband my wife beaded for me and my antiqued ROAs helped me place first in Frontiersman category at our local club annual match.

    Mainly I just wanted to brag on my wife's beading, but there isn't a hatband thread...

    This is not loom work by the way, one bead at a time on a needle and thread. And, she's making me another one!!
     

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  6. Doak

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    Beautiful work!

    Ouch! Sore fingers! :-D
     
  7. ClemBert

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    I'll be updating the club list soon. Been under a rock the last couple of months but I'll crawl out soon to fix the list. :p
     
  8. mbpennin

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    My Ruger Old Army :)

    Neener neener!
     

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  9. blfuller

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    May I join?
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  10. J-Bar

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    blfuller:

    Nice photo, excellent taste in revolvers.

    My compliments.

    Is that frost on your deck?
     
  11. blfuller

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    Thanks, it's actually dust. But it has frosted in my area a few times
     
  12. rodwha

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    Nice indeed! I'd love to place a hammer like that on mine!
     
  13. rme

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    Can't post in the classified section, but I will as soon as I can get it to work.
    Does anyone on the forum have an Ruger Old Army - SS - in very good condition
    that they would like to sell for a fair price? I'm not looking for the deal of a lifetime,
    just a good fair price.
    Thanks - rme

    SORRY SORRY
    I did not notice the post limit before you can use the classified posting
    section - THR ADMINISTRATION, I have tried to delete this post myself
    but can't, would you please delete it for me ASAP.
    Again I apologize.
    Thanks - rme
     
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  14. white smoke

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    RME your Email is not accessible. Contact me.
     
  15. ClemBert

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    Welcome Nelg_Kir, Head Space, mbpennin, and blfuller! :D:D:D:D
     
  16. Yamavira

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    ROA Timing

    :(:(Hi
    For background refer to posts #1103-1110 regarding the cylinder fitted to my ROA.
    After firing it for several months I have come to the conclusion that the replacement cylinder is not correctly timed causing minute particles of very hot lead being "spat" out of the side cylinder/cone gap.
    I shall be visiting Bob Dunkley to determine the fix but would be interested in comments from THR members.
    I would be particularly interested to know if the problem is "fixable". Knowing that there are no replacement parts in the market place for the ROA. Would not like to condemn it to being a book end. Enjoy shooting it.

    Yamavira.:(
     
  17. J-Bar

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    Use that replacement cylinder as a pencil holder.

    Watch the gun auction sites for a factory original percussion cylinder. They are advertised occasionally. It will be cheaper in the long run.

    You could buy a whole ROA for what you could invest in getting that thing to work properly. I assume English laws still permit you to purchase a percussion revolver?
     
  18. gifford

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    Here is my Ruger Old Army. It is a 1977 vintage that I was able to purchase from a friend about a year ago. It's in overall good shape with only one nipple rounded. So far I've just loaded five chambers and it shoots just fine that way.

    The photo itself was a collaborative effort of the FOML Club photographer and my good friend and shooting mentor Phil, both of whom are technologically more advanced than I am.
     
  19. J-Bar

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    That ROA wears its age with grace and dignity. Congratulations on a fine acquisition.
     
  20. ClemBert

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    06. adaptandovercome 07. 461 08. junkman_01 09. lonewolf5347 10. rcflint
    11. MCgunner 12.madcratebuilder 13. AbitNutz 14. eastbank 15. robert garner
    16. philuk44 17. HUnter58 18. arcticap 19. BullRunBear 20. theotherwaldo
    21. SC Slowhand 22. Prairie Dawg 23. wittzo 24. Tallbald 25. Smokin_Gun
    26. OB One 27. jungle 28. plumbernater 29. daveinvegas 30. JanZ
    31. George Mabry 32. Benmathes 33. Loosenock 34. higene 35. Rock Island
    36. Erich 37. robhof 38. J-Bar 39. Nomad, 2nd 40. TAURUSBOB
    41. martindl99 42. Vermonter 43. wasatch 44. fogg64 45. BConklin
    46. Howdy Doody 47. bushrod2 48. rdstrain49 49. FirinFlatTop 50. rem1858
    51. straight-shooter 52. edorfox 53. KevininPa 54. Ringo1234 55. pohill
    56. The Don 57. jeepcoma 58. Dave Markowitz 59. Chazz 60. andrewstorm
    61. Steel Wheels 62. Legionnaire 63. NineMilePete 64. 94RUGER 65. Acorn Mush
    66. R.Ganister 67. Boom-stick 68. Buddy 69. Ghost Dog 70. BML
    71. Cult of 1858 72. Jaymo 73. bigbore442001 74. Engineer Bill 75. azyogi
    76. Dr. Leaky 77. Clermont 78. Indy4570 79. ozarkguy 80. Plastikosmd
    81. mrdo1 82. bax504 83. Constrictor 84. BC Mosaic 85. clepidus
    86. did 87. gunboat57 88. Malachi Leviticus Blue 89. Blue Hill 90. Power Keg
    91. SUMIKITO 92. ChasMack 93. Larry Flett 94. RugerShawn 95. tdperry
    96. Rettech 97. renoman 98. tk1971 99. Curator 100. Dan Carey
    101. Old No7 102. Muddydogs 103. Oldnamvet 104. 6.5x55swedish 105. crazysccrmd
    106. Jim, West PA 107. rodwha 108. Varmiter 109. Indian Outlaw 110. Patocazador
    111. Fingers McGee 112. h0use 113. Huntingsaddles 114. GregP42 115. esims
    116. Doak 117. BubbaGoose 118. FreddyKruger 119. Calvados 120. ruger357
    121. wap41 122. DurangoKid 123. Yamavira 124. Onty 125. 4speed
    126. legend 550 127. bri1462 128. regniflow 129. CageDodger 130. HPBroker
    131. mattusmc45 132. 303 133. Jersey Joe 134. Psycho 135. Cast of One
    136. sammass 137. jgray 138. bothenook 139. keybuck 140. davepool
    141. whitetailbob 142. eddie56 143. wklaus 144. cane 145. dickydalton
    146. Sumika 147. woodnbow 148. DMZ 149. white smoke 150. karlthev
    151. The-Reaver 152. Beetle-Bailey 153. cwo2lt 154. snakeman 155. BHP FAN
    156. grter 157. aHFo3 158. Joe Meyer 159. Wild Tom Hipshot 160. mntns2oceans
    161. Btc624 162. kendak 163. pardiniman 164. d-a 165. toolslinger
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    171. Head Space 172. mbpennin 173. blfuller 174. gifford

    Welcome gifford! :D Nice pic!
     
  21. eddie56

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    I have an Ruger Old Army I would like to sell.The problem is I dont know what it is worth.So I came here for your help.First off it is in bad condition.The forcing cone is badly pitted and the barrel as well.The cylinder has lite pitting.The original grips are gone.It has a conversion cylinder that has not seen much use.I have pics but they dont show the damage well.If you need pics I will have to add them later.If any one has an idea of its value please let me know I need money soon.I may not be able to get to a computer to answer you for a couple days.Thanks for any help you may have.
     
  22. Patocazador

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    The conversion cylinder may be worth more than the gun if it's like you say.
     
  23. J-Bar

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    Sell the gun with it's original cylinder as a parts gun, since parts are no longer available from Ruger. At $200 or so it should sell quickly. Sell the conversion cylinder separately for 2/3 of the price of a new one, and I bet it will move quickly also.

    Good luck.
     
  24. eddie56

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    Thanks gies.That is what I had in mind.The barrel is a mess but the other parts are in good shape.The trigger is the best part of this pistol.Thanks again.
     
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