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The Ruger SR 556: Seriously?!?!

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by Ridx, Jun 9, 2009.

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  1. Ridx

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    I'll keep this brief for I am sure most of you have formed your own opinions about ruger entering the foray of the ar-15, when the market is completely overrun with ar clones already; Why Ruger...WHY?!
     
  2. P.B.Walsh

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    I don't know, but I think it'll be a competitor in piston rifles.
     
  3. CoRoMo

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    Now they need to make their own 1911.

    I was glad to see them jump in. Now we're just waiting on Springfield Armory to toss out an M4.
     
  4. Kindrox

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    Because it seems people can sell all the AR15s they can make, and make decent profit margins to boot.

    Its like asking why a company wants to get into the ammo market!
     
  5. TexasRifleman

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    I think you will see soon.

    It will likely be one of the biggest selling ARs on the market.

    It's a big move for a company with "household name" status.

    First major maker of a piston AR? You can bet they will sell like mad.
     
  6. Lone_Gunman

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    Ah, I see we have found another person that has not taken the time to look at what the Ruger AR actually is.

    It is a gas piston AR. It is not intended to compete with 99% of the AR's on the market. It is the only piston AR made by a large company. Well, Bushmaster makes a few gas piston ARs I think, but not many.

    Ruger hopes it has found a niche market.

    They will sell all they can make, and for the first year I suspect they will sell for MSRP or more.
     
  7. possum

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    just means more options for the gun buyers. i am interested to see how they hold up, especially with the track record of ruger, and the last few things they have came out with.
     
  8. benEzra

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    The market is not overrun with well thought out piston AR's. There are a few, but not all that many. Personally, I like the fact that Ruger has gotten into the AR market; it's good for them and good for all of us, whether you personally like the Ruger AR or not.
     
  9. TechBrute

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    Is your next question, "Why do they make handguns smaller than a canned ham?"
     
  10. CoRoMo

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    That is spot on. I can't yet say I'll own one, but the non-AR crowd that I've mentioned this gun to, are all in with bated breath. It's been amazing to see their reaction to pictures of this Ruger on the internet.
     
  11. Stillwater97

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    The quest for Profit is an extremely compelling motive.

    I just hope it proves to be more accurate than mini 14. ;)


    I'm not sold on the ROI of the gas piston. Now I've never been in combat, nor is my AR a full auto, and I haven't sat down and shot 3k rounds in a short period of time. So, maybe for the military... I don't know.

    I have shot about a thousand rounds in a day and a half shooting sage rats and had one failure (bad primer). I just kept the gun lubed up with CLP and it went bang every time I pulled the trigger.

    My AR is very reliable the way it is.

    just my couple of pesos.
     
  12. CoRoMo

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    What do you guys think? Are they only after the civilian market or are they going to seriously pursue the LEO/military contract side of black-rifledom as well?
     
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    Sounds like good business sense to me. Not to mention if Ruger can make a piston operated AR-15 and keep the quality decent and the prices on the competitive side then all the better for everyone.
     
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    Piston ARs may be the wave of the future.

    If the thing is as reliable as my Mini-14, but shoots groups like my AR, I'd sell both and buy it.

    But are piston ARs as accurate as the direct-impingement guns?

    I doubt they are (for a given set of specs of course).
     
  15. stubbicatt

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    I'm looking seriously at trading into one.
     
  16. ArmedBear

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    That said, I'm kinda "over" the AR, for now.

    Obviously, though, there's still a bit of a market for the things.:D
     
  17. Bartholomew Roberts

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    Ruger might as well release it... that way they can make a profit off of it while they wait to compete in the Army trials coming later this year as the M4 contract comes up for grabs.

    I'm not a big fan of Ruger personally. Most of their guns strike me as inexpensively manufactured firearms aimed at the market of people who fire 200-500 rounds a year.

    This looks like an interesting change though. If nothing else, Ruger is making a serious effort to go after the AR market.
     
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    For equal specs, the piston rifle will be slightly less accurate. (some companies, like POF, are using oeversized barrel nuts which, fo some reason, have a positive effect on accuracy, so it is nearly equal)
     
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    It will all come down to how it shoots. If it shoots like their mini-14 I'm going to pass. I like the idea of a piston driven AR and Ruger seems to be outsourcing decent parts. It really is going to come down to the barrel for me. If they can make the rifle shoot good ammo off a bench into 1 MOA I would jump on one after the initial rush has passed. If they don't hold that I personally would rather save $1200 and buy a mini-14. It will come down to how it shoots. I would also love to see an affordable conversion kit as well. I think they could get some decent money for one of those seeing how many people out there like the piston ARs but have a DI AR.
     
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    I think the secret here is Ruger going for the LEO market. I think we'll see these on many SWAT teams and in the backs of police cruisers very soon.

    I also wouldn't be amazed to hear of a Banana Republic or two arming their forces with them. This is Ruger going for the big bucks.
     
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    They'd be crazy not to. Ruger Mini-14 has had alot of success with the law enforcement market. Its likely that LE agencies that currently deploy the Mini will turn to Ruger when it comes time to replace their rifles.
     
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    i bet Bill is rolling over in his grave:D

    Really though, why WOULDNT Ruger get into the AR game? Remington has a line, S&W has one to, Winchester.. well they are under FN's umbrella. Im not a huge fan of modern day Ruger's but they are just trying to compete in the firearms market and they are producing a product that is very sought after AND add the gas piston! its a no brainer!
     
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    I think more manufactres should come out with gas piston AR's.

    What is with the extra skinny handguard, looks kinds like a CETEME handguard.
     
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    "First major maker of a piston AR", actually Bushmaster manufactures a POF licensed design, also LMT, and a few smaller companies make piston ARs.
    I think Ruger has realized that there is a market for high quality, gas piston ARs with good quality parts. Who knows if they will actually make them (possibly outsource them?), but Ruger is one of a few American manufacturers of cold hammer forged barrels. If they put their available barrel technology into them, and make a good quality product, they could very likely make one of the best on the market.
     
  25. OregonJohnny

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    Take a basic AR-15. Add a gas-piston conversion. Add a Troy quad rail and rear sight. Add 3 30-round P-Mags. Even without the crappy Hogue grip, you're now at over the current asking price of $1995. And they'll probably sell for more like $1,700. It's a nice looking rifle, and if Ruger does it right, it will sell like hot cakes.
     
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