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The Solution to the Immigration Problem

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  1. bratch

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    The Case For Having Jack Bauer Annex Mexico

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    Editorial-

    The debate over our lax border control policies and the subsequent flow of illegal immigration that accompanies them, continues to rage. Thus far a plethora of solutions have been offered, but none that is truly feasible in and of itself.

    One of the more intriguing ideas is building a giant, Mexican-proof retaining wall that spans our southern border. Although this might prove effective, there are some major copyright issues with the Chinese that would need to be worked out.

    Others have suggested that we deploy the National Guard along the border. Although they could no doubt handle the situation, political pandering has prevented this from happening up until this point.

    What to do then? The way I see it the answer is straightforward and simple. We take over Mexico and make it our 51st state.

    "How?" you may ask. Simple again. We tell Jack Bauer that the Mexican government has kidnapped his daughter Kim and that the only way to save her is to secure the country. If my estimates are correct we should have Mexico in our control between the hours of 7:00 am and 8:00 am on the day he is sent in.

    Sure, there are some logistical concerns that need to be hammered out. Foremost being that we will need to build a ventilation duct that reaches across the border into Mexico to enable Bauer to infiltrate that country. But details aside, the plan is sound.

    The benefits of annexing Mexico are numerous, but I have outlined a few of the more obvious ones:

    1. Less border to defend. Our new southern border would be 696 miles long as compared to the 2,000 miles that we currently must defend. Bauer's kill count from this mission will no doubt provide enough bodies to build a 696 mile long human wall, with enough left over to create watchtowers at regular intervals. This should plug any potential gaps along the Belize/Guatemala border and at the same time sidestep the Chinese trademark issue.
    2. Holiday consolidation. We will finally be able to combine Mexico's Day of the Dead with America's Halloween to form the super-holiday to end all super-holidays.
    3. Tijuana et al. No need to stop at those annoying border patrol checkpoints when you feel the need to head down south for a bit of Tequila and Mexican lovelies. After waking up in a pool of your own piss and vomit with your wallet missing and a burning sensation when you urinate, the last thing you want to do is wait in line to get home.
    4. Mexican television. No more creepy, sombrero-wearing, Spanish-speaking clowns playing "La Cuccharacha" to a group of grown men and women pretending to be children while the live studio audience laughs hysterically. Enough.
    5. Cynthia McKinney dilution factor. With so much more square footage added to the country we should be able to "water down" her race-based oral diarrhea (so to speak).
    6. Monsters in my closet. I am unaware of a single incident where a Mexican household has had monsters in their closet. Perhaps upon annexation they can help me with mine.

    I expect that this proposal will be well-received and that we can soon begin the task of assimilating the estimated 15-20% of Mexican nationals who are reportedly still in Mexico.
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    Sounds brilliant to me and I dare anyone to point out a flaw.
     
  2. scbair

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    Just please don't make it a "territory" of the USA. Little known fact: residents of "territories" (such as Puerto Rico) are eligible for such nice benefits as Medicare (among others), but pay NO federal income taxes!! :fire:
     
  3. Biker

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    Sure... an open border works so much better than a barrier in stopping illegals doesn't it??? :rolleyes:

    History’s Most Famous Walls

    EDUCATION... It's what's for dinner! ;)

    btw... Question: Why didn't the Immigration and Naturalization Service round up all the illegals yesterday nationwide? Has your government failed you? Why? Call the INS and ask them what they were doing yesterday? Ask them....

    Just a heads up... when you call the INS you will be transferred to the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) Office for questions about immigration procedures and their National Customer Service Center (NCSC) at 1-800-375-5283 (TTY 1-800-767-1833). Note that they're bilingual and speak Spanish!!!:what:
     
  5. GlockNation

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    >>>building a giant wall -- there has been many walls constructed over the centuries and none have worked<<<

    There were only about 200 successful escapes through the Berlin Wall. Unless we are simply going to hand over our Country to illegal aliens, SOMETHING must be done!!:cuss:
     
  6. beerslurpy

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    Just because walls are eventually overcome doesnt mean we shouldnt do it. The great wall of china and hadrians fall eventually proved worthless because the empires that built them declined. But they were worthwhile in the meantime. The berlin wall was eventually torn down for political reasons, but it was very effective until then.

    Trying to say that because nothing is perfect, nothing is worth doing is stupid. The wall would be a huge help. Having border patrol focus on finding holes or tunnels would be far easier than having them hold their hands out as a sea of illegals past every night.
     
  7. Biker

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    El correcto, beerslurpy. It's estimated that over a million people illegally cross our southern border every year. If a wall stopped even three-fourths of them, it would be a monumental success.
    Biker
     
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    My thought exactly. We had hundreds of thousands of illegals all conveniently co-located in contiguous groups, and our gummint made no effort to cull the MOBS for illegals. This represents a huge missed opportunity.

    These demonstrations (and our government's LACK OF response to them, only proves how entrenched the problem is.

    If the illegals really want immigration "justice," they should go home, apply for a visa, and wait -- like everyone who comes here legally.
     
  9. ken grant

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    Call,write,fax or e-mail your Reps. Tell them to quit beating around the bush.

    Control our borders #1
    Enforce existing laws #2
    Do not pass new laws until the above is done!
     
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    Hunting people.. great idea man!
    :rolleyes:

    How many of you here would actually shoot people down like animals?
     
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    You'd shoot the minutemen? :confused:
     
  12. Ira Aten

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    Why has not Congress addressed this issue?

    Representatives of the Federal Legislature appear to not recognize, or are otherwise hiding their knowledge of their powers and duty as set forth in the Constitution of the United States to protect the United States against invasion. Any reasonable individual would agree to the fact that Twelve Million Illegal Aliens crossing our borders is unquestionably classified as an “Invasion”.

    Article One, Section Eight states, in part…

    “Congress shall have the power…
    ….To provide for calling
    forth the militia, to execute the
    laws of the Union, suppress insurrections and repel invasions.”

    Regarding the organization of the Militia, the Article provides…
    the “Congress shall have the power…“To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the militia, and for governing such part of them as may be employed in the service of the United States, reserving to the states respectively, the appointment of the officers, and the authority of training the militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress…”


    Further, that Article sets out the duty of the Congress to enforce “naturalization” regulations, and states that…

    “Congress shall have the power… To establish a uniform rule of naturalization, and uniform laws on the subject of bankruptcies throughout the United States

    Although our Founding Fathers addressed the repelling of invasions in Article I, Section Eight, of the United States Constitution, almost to a man or woman every Congressional Legislator, and in addition, the President of the United States, while acknowledging the fact Twelve Million Illegal Aliens invaded our borders, has claimed nothing at all can be done to remedy this situation, other than surrendering to the idea of making illegal entry, legal.

    Thousands of lawfully acting, legal American citizens have announced their willingness to volunteer their services in a Militia for this very cause by joining together, even previous to Congress acting dutifully and calling them forth. These citizens have entitled this Militia the “Minutemen” in respect for the very designers of the Article One of this Constitution. These citizens not only stand ready to serve in the Militia, they are more importantly, ready to stand down immediately upon completion of this duty.

    Federal Legislators have collectively stated nothing lawfully can be done to repel these invaders due to the Immigration and Naturalization Service not being of sufficient number to repel the ongoing invasion. They go on to state they cannot detain the Twelve Million currently in our midst. These Legislators are at best, ignorant of Article I, Section Eight of the United States Constitution, or if not ignorant, duplicitous by misleading legal American Citizens into believing only the INS is charged with suppressing insurrection and repelling invasion from foreign soil.

    Instead of fulfilling their duty, they meet in Congress for the purpose of granting Amnesty to the lawbreakers who burn our flag, and hoist the flag of another country where Old Glory had stood. The act of lowering our standard, and hoisting their own, is evidence of the Insurrection resulting from this invasion. Meanwhile, the legal applicant for immigration waits lawfully and patiently behind those who have no respect for our law.

    To our knowledge, not one of these Congressmen has officially said in public, a single word about the fact that the Constitution of the United States prescribes a remedy which is both real, and available for this purpose, as lawfully set out in Article I, Section Eight, of the United States Constitution. They instead, talk of making illegal action, legal.

    This Government has failed in its duty to exercise their powers to regulate immigration, for naturalization of aliens entering our country, thus, over twelve million illegal aliens are known to have crossed, and remain within, our Nation’s borders. The Legislative branch has admittedly failed in its duty to protect our shores from invasion.

    Concern voiced by the legal citizenry, the very “People” of our Nation, at being disregarded by their Representatives in Congress today continues to fall on deaf ears while we watch Congress address the “need” of passing laws to make mass invasion legal, rather than Congress performing their duty as prescribed within Article One, Section Eight of the United States Constitution

    It has long been established that Congress is bound with a duty to uphold our nation’s Constitution in good faith, and take actions reflecting the will of The People. But sadly they have not done so, and have acted only in their political interest in this matter. So much so, that we face the bizarre realization that our Congress is drafting a law specifically so as to please only one group of people, that group being the masses of Illegal Aliens mounting in number daily.

    The legal citizens of the United State’s voice over their concerns about the Congressional plan to legalize the violation of our existing immigration laws, has gone unanswered too long.

    Should we not demand Congress utilize the powers granted under Article I, Section Eight, of the Constitution of the United States, and take certain steps therein described to enable the Militia to lawfully halt the invasion of our shores by Illegal Aliens invading our borders as soon as possible?
     
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    :D :confused: AMEN
     
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    I'm old and grumpy, but I could never shoot someone that did not intend to harm me or a loved one. I am surprised anyone would use deadly force when it is not necessary.
     
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    If they don't listen to the masses on any other issue, just what makes you think a demand for the above action will be considered?
     
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    Texas has kicked the mexicans out once.....

    I hope they can do it again......both my Senators voted against the bill last week because they both want stronger measures against the ILLEGALS in this country........chris3
     
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    Good observation. Funny, how those who oppose a wall usually end up saying "It can't be PERFECT, so it shouldn't be done!"

    IMHO if it even slowed the flood to a trickle, it would be a huge success.
     
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    I support amnesty for illegal criminals...

    provided it follows THIS plan.
    I don't know about my fellows here on THR, but *I* have learned the lessons taught by the history of Canaan, Rome and the colonial Americas (North AND South). Those who will not or cannot repel mass invasion of their lands, lose those lands.
     
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    Much to everyone's shock, I'm not closing this thread.

    However, those who advocate murder will be have their posting privileges removed.

    pax
     
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    I hope you don't mean me; that was a joke, the last part anyway. Intermarriage has in fact been the way these things help get resolved.
     
  23. Ira Aten

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    Quote from SB88
    "If they don't listen to the masses on any other issue, just what makes you think a demand for the above action will be considered?"


    SB88

    My point is, they are listening to the masses, and doing their bidding. BUT, these masses are not "We the People", but those people, of a foriegn nation.

    And for some reason, they are prepared to do their bidding, regardless of the laws set forth regarding this issue.

    The right of the people to peacefully assemble and petition the Government for redress of Grievences, means the right of We The People of the United States, to go to OUR Government, and assemble in our Congress, demanding redress of OUR grievances, not those of some person from Nueva Laredo Mexico, who decides to illegally enter our border, block traffic of peaceful United States Citizens attempting to travel to and from work, all while burning our flag, and raising theirs. That is an act of insurrection, not petitioning the government for redress.

    So I guess, I am trying to get AMERICAN people, no matter the race, to join together in a mass march to Congress, and petition Congress to call forth the militia in that we may legally resolve the problem without completely surrendering this country, to anarchy.

    I guess that is the purpose of my post. It was to try to point out that protesting in the streets of L.A., is not peacefully assembling in Congress, with a petition for redress of AMERICAN CITIZEN'S grievences.

    The foreigners, have NO GRIEVANCES to voice to The United States Government. Their damned Grievances, are against the country of their origin. WE OFFER THE THING THEY ARE DEMANDING, ALREADY! They can immigrate to America, and become naturalized. They just don't want the bother, of following the necessary steps.

    But We the People, have stood by, and have only voiced our concern to the media, to each other, and to one or two congressmen.

    Petitioning the Government, and Assembling in Congress to do so, involves peacefully assembling in the Nation's Capitol, and bringing our grievances in writing, as an assembly, directly to the Congress.

    At least that is how I read it. I may be wrong. But I think if enough of "We the People of the United States" were to join in written protest, obtain an allowed, legal time to peacefully assemble within the Capitol and deliver a petition, all this can be resolved.

    I just need some guys that are a whole lot smarter than me, to figure out how to go about peacefully assembling, for the purposes of petitioning CONGRESS for redress of OUR Grievances. To hell with Mexico's grievances.
     
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    +1, That post is as well written as your first.
     
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    You sound purty sharp to me. You have made some good posts here.
    For some reason some of mine get locked down by the Mods.
     
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