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The True Aim Of Gun Grabbers

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  1. Desertdog

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    The True Aim Of Gun Grabbers
    By Doug Hagin (08/14/03)
    http://www.americandaily.com/article/2198

    The debate over the right of the American people to own and carry guns has been, fought, and re-fought over and again. The emotionally charged arguments of those against guns have been heard and re-heard. And they have been proven dead wrong time after time by gun rights arguments.

    Yet those who despise your gun will never cease their insidious campaign until they have stripped away your most essential personal liberty, the right to self-defense. In the end the sacred right to protect each other and ourselves is the target of the gun-grabbers like Sarah Brady and Senator Charles Schummer.

    Yes we all know they claim to be defending children when they talk gun control. We know they claim to be interested in reducing crime when they rant about sensible gun laws. We have heard all of these lies over and over and over again.

    The fact is theirs is a very different agenda than they claim. Their stated goals fade in the face of the facts about guns and gun ownership. 70% of the states in this nation have enacted laws allowing citizens to carry guns. And violent crime has dropped in those states. The predicted shootouts in the streets and rampaging citizens predicted by the gun control gang have never come to pass.

    Yet they continue to use this false campaign of fear and lies to try to persuade us of the need for their gun control ideals in America. They tell us that guns and children are a deadly mix. They tell us no parent should own a gun. They tell us of all the children killed by guns accidentally every year.

    Yet when the truth is examined on these matters the lies of the gun grabbers become apparent. More children die every year in fires, falls, drownings, and from playing football than by accidental shootings. If the gun control gang is really concerned about saving kids then why are they not campaigning against two-story homes, swimming pools and youth football? Why do they just target guns?

    Simply put guns and the right to own them is the key ingredient in a free society. If Americans are allowed to own and carry guns then they can feed themselves, and defend themselves. In other words gun owning Americans are less dependent on government than Liberals prefer.

    To any devoted Liberal government is the one and only answer for everything. Self- defense, and our inherent right to it, are not conducive to being dependent on government. In the Liberal ideal the average person is better off being more dependent on the government. Anything that lessens our need on government therefore becomes the sworn enemy of liberalism.

    The gun grabbers of course would vehemently deny this charge, yet take a look at nations, which have taken the road to strip away gun, rights.

    In England gun rights have pretty much ceased to exist, and predictably violent crime has risen. The rate of “hot†burglaries, burglaries where the residents are home, is much higher than in America. Why? Well as studies have shown criminals do not know whether or not Americans are armed. They tend, therefore, to avoid invading homes where the resident is at home. England, with its gun control laws has removed that fear for criminals.

    Should the gun grabbers of America ever get their way England's example would become our reality as well. And not only have gun rights been taken away in England, but the very right to protect oneself has taken a serious hit as well.

    Citizens are not allowed to use the same deadly force in protecting themselves as Americans. People there have faced prosecution for defending themselves too vigorously against criminals. Again this is where gun control eventually leads. The right to protect yourself, like the right to own a gun, makes us too free for Liberals. Imagine if this ideal were to be adopted here? Could defending your life and home land you in prison? If the gun control gang ever gets their desired goals, yes.

    They want us to place our protection, as well as our other liberties, in their hands. In the world of Liberals violence is violence. If you kill in self-defense you have not done something just in the eyes of Liberalism. In their sight you are just as bad as the criminal who sought to harm you. This is the dream of the Liberal elites. A nation where everyone depends on government, a government controlled by Liberals, for all our needs. Especially self-defense!

    No matter how deluded this vision of Utopia is rest assured the Liberal elites will never abandon it. To Liberals you and I are not able to think or decide for ourselves how to live our lives. In their estimation we must be dependent on government for all our needs. This can never take place while we are able to own and carry guns. Remember this fact the next time a liberal talks about gun control.
     
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    It amazes me how many Americans truly fear freedom. So they vote for polititians who seem to hate it.
     
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    Feudalism lives!
     
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    The overriding problem with most Liberals is that they don't live in the real world. Most of them truly believe that "Government" is the end all and be all to all the ills plagueing Society today. This is easy to understand in the Rosy Odonndell types who live in guarded, gated, communities and are accompanied 24-7 by armed Bodyguards, who ensure the safety of their clients until the Police arrive to solve whatever threatens their Blissful existance.

    What is more difficult to understand is the number of "Liberals" of lower socioeconomic status who embrace the same philosophy as the Silver Spoon bunch. They surely must realize what is painfully obvious to those of us who frequent this Forum, NO ONE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR PERSONAL SAFETY BUT YOU! Time after time LE has been deemed to be responsible only for the collective safety of the Public, not individual safety. As this group of Liberals is more prone to be the victims of violent crime, their overwheming loyalty to the party of choice of Liberals, is hard to understand. One can only hazard a guess that the cradle to grave Government control espoused by the Socialist leanings of this party appeal to their own personal beliefs that government will provide all their needs and ensure their right to life ,liberty and happiness,(Notice what is missing)

    I could quote my favorite Bumper Sticker which pretty much says it all , THE SECOND AMENDMENT GUARANTEES ALL THE OTHERS. It is the one thing that makes us Citizens of our Government and not Subjects.

    If the Liberals ever get control of all 3 branches of our Government I fear our days of guaranteed freedom (2A) are numbered. Then will be the time for THR and other similar groups to stand up and be counted. The alternative will be the Blue Helmets marching in the streets of the U,S,

    Vote the lesser of 2 evils even if the lesser is evil, Vote Bush
     
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    We've all been successfully duped by the liberal-vs-conservative paradigm. In their modern incarnations, both liberals and conservatives believe in the power of govt. Their differences are of degree, not kind.

    The true struggle is between those who believe in the supremacy of government vs. those who believe in the supremacy of the individual.
     
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    I agree with Spartacus2002 on this one. The liberal versus conservative argument is merely a facade to draw attention away from the fact that most of the politicos are transnationalists whose idea of perfection is somewhere between "Brave New World" and "Gattica".
     
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    Blue tops make excellent aiming points.
     
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    Do I hear an AMEN???
     
  9. RavenVT100

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    Absolutely.

    Think about it. How can law enforcement make the promise that they can ensure your personal safety 24/7? Even if law enforcement in your city or locale consists of 100% idealists who believe it is their highest duty to protect each individual citizen at all costs, they cannot do this. I like my local PD, I think they're very well trained and well-paid. But even in a completely optimistic scenario, the police cannot guarantee your protection every second of every day. If they could, what would it do to crime? And if you're forced to enter a dangerous unfamiliar area away from home for any reason? That's even worse.
     
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    Actually, it's not a matter of degree, but of what they want to control. Conservatives are no less ardent in their quest for government control of their pet fears.
     
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    Good point. I think our points are not mutually exclusive.
     
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