The truth about assault weapons.

[Just One Shot]

I don't know if this has been posted yet but it might help educate the anti gunner in your life.

Watch it to the end, there are some good comments from some high level government types.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjM9fcEzSJ0&feature=related

 

[Jorg Nysgerrig]

Posted yesterday here: http://www.thehighroad.org/showpost.php?p=5154197&postcount=15

By you in the wrong forum 3 hours ago: http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?p=5156755#post5156755

And a few times before that:
http://www.thehighroad.org/showpost.php?p=4221064&postcount=3
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=258920
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=246467

It's been around for quite awhile. Still, a pretty useful tool.

 

[Izaak Walton]

Assault weapons have a three position safety.

 

[hso]

Assault Rifle's have a three position safety. "Assault Weapon" is a made up term by the antis to confuse people into thinking semiauto rifles that look like military firearms are the same weapon.

 

[jfh]

hso wins. The term "assault weapon" is a political definition, and has no part in the lexicon of firearms--only of politics.

Jim H.

 

[Armueller2001]

It really makes my blood boil when someone who owns an AR15 calls their firearm an "assault rifle." Might as well call it a baby-killing tactical sniper rifle machine gun with exploding 50 caliber bullets. That's what it sounds like to those idiot soccer moms who all vote for whoever Rosie and Oprah tell them to vote for.

 

[ccsniper]

comes from hitler, i know that. actual wording "sturmgewehr" meaning storm weapon. i thought assault weapon meant it had full auto capability?

 

[Armueller2001]

comes from hitler, i know that. actual wording "sturmgewehr" meaning storm weapon. i thought assault weapon meant it had full auto capability?

"assault rifle" means it has select fire. Assault weapon is a made-up term that is basically military style rifles that look scary but are semi-auto.

 

[jfh]

The term "assault weapon" entered as a term developed by the anti-gun crowd in the late eighties. It has nothing to do with the German "storm weapon" designation, nor did Hitler provide the terminology.

It was first used nationally, AFAIK, by an AP writer who referred to the Glock used in the Luby Cafeteria massacre in October, 1991.

Prior to that, it had been used, I believe, sparingly by the antigun functionaries in their attempts to confuse the non-shooting populace about machine guns.

It was adopted as official terminology by the writers of the 1994 AWB.

It has no place in the firearms lexicon, only in politics.

Jim H.

 

[hso]

i thought assault weapon meant it had full auto capability?

See how well the propaganda works!

Assault Rifle = military firearm with burst or full auto fire capability.

Assault Weapon = propaganda term for semiauto rifle to make people assume they're machine guns

 

[jfh]

and it should be noted that in the standard lexicon, an assault rifle typically fires a (rifle) cartridge of low or intermediate power.

The reason an "Assault Weapon" is political rests not in its inherent characteristics as a firearm, but in value-laden definitions of those characteristics.

Jim H.

 

[SaxonPig]

Jeff Cooper listed three features for a true assault rifle (there is no such thing as an assault weapon).

1. Carbine length.

2. Intermediate size rifle cartridge (5.56, 7.62x39, etc).

3. Full-auto capability.

 

[ccsniper]

i hate the media, but its there right to sell us crap like that

 

[TexasRifleman]

i hate the media, but its there right to sell us crap like that

But it's your right not to be dumb enough to buy it, and your responsibility as a gun owner not to perpetuate their BS.

 

[ServiceSoon]

i hate the media, but its there right to sell us crap like that

You will find that the majority of the people here at THR value the first amendment as much as the second. But saying things that aren't true or are purposely misleading has nothing to do with the first amendment.

 

[ArfinGreebly]

Fraud

[I] hate the media, but [it's] [their] right to sell us crap like that[.]

No.

There is no "right" to misinform.

There is no "right" to sell bad information.

There is no "right" to commit wholesale fraud on the community at large.

Freedom of the press =/= freedom to lie to everyone.

I think, if I were an arms maker producing an AR or AK styled weapon, and if I had a bottomless wallet, I would sue every media outlet that used the term for defamation.

Much in the same way that GM would sue a media organ for indiscriminate use of the term "death car" to refer to every SUV made, simply because they bear a passing resemblance to military armored all-purpose vehicles on which a machine gun is mounted.

Unhappily, most arms makers don't have bottomless wallets.

I wonder if the NRA or NRA-ILA would contemplate a campaign along those lines. Assuming, of course, that they could secure funding for it.

But then, that funding comes from shooters.

And they're a fickle lot.

 

[ReadyontheRight]

"Assault Weapon":

"Tactical Assault Weapon Marketed to Young Girls":



"An Arsenal of Modern Tactical Assault Weapons - Unlocked and Available to Children":

Common sense laws would require these dangerous assault weapons to be outlawed or at least be locked up at all times. It's for the children.

This makes just as much sense as the AWB.

 

[JKimball]

It really makes my blood boil when someone who owns an AR15 calls their firearm an "assault rifle."

It makes my blood boil when gun owners argue that "assault weapons" shouldn't be banned because they are essentially the same as many popular sporting firearms. Go that route and you're more likely to just get sporting arms banned too.

Lets do what we can to reinforce in people's minds that the second amendment is about having guns that are good for taking into battle against people. The second amendment is all about "assault weapons."

Let's not pretend (or worse, believe) that the guns we want access to aren't really that dangerous.

 

[shotgunjoel]

JKimball, you got the idea, the 2nd amend is all about military weapons. In the 1930's after the 1934 NFA some guy tried to argue that his SBS should be legal, the federal lawyer said it had no military use and therefore wasn't protected as necesary for militia use. Imagine what would happen if a federal lawyer tried that one now.

 

[Gunnerpalace]

Actually "assault weapon" is real term course it refers to rocket launchers so I don't know what to say.

 

[ServiceSoon]

The funny thing is that short barreled shotguns (SBS) are used in the military.

 

[TexasRifleman]

The funny thing is that short barreled shotguns (SBS) are used in the military.

They were then too. If Miller's lawyers had shown up, and he hadn't died, that case would have been very very different.

 

[yokel]

The unfortunate truth is that any halfway decent modern-day fighting force is going to require heavy machine guns, grenade launchers, man-portable anti-tank and anti-aircraft guns and missile launchers, recoilless rifles, and small mortars as minimum armament.

With the restrictive laws passed in defiance of the Second Amendment willfully passed by Congress, it passes belief to expect this very same rabble of politicians to arm the people with modern weaponry sufficient to challenge government rule.