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These Debates Over the Best Handgun Are Reaching a Point of Absurdity

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by mordechaianiliewicz, Jan 15, 2010.

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  1. mordechaianiliewicz

    mordechaianiliewicz Member

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    Okay.... so lately I've seen (and commented on several posts) about one gun or another and it's superiority.

    It's been so iritating to me, I figured I'd post this.

    My favorite brands are Glock and H&K. I've used or owned

    Glock 19, 17, 22, 27

    Beretta 92FS, Cougar (stoeger built)

    Smith & Wesson 5904, 5906, 910, M&P (fullsize and compact)

    CZ-75, and the Compact Version

    H&K USP 9mm and .40 cal (compact only for the .40 S&W)

    Ruger P95, P89, P90, P345, SR9

    Springfield Armory XD9, XD40, XD45 (& the 9mm Compact)

    Walther P99

    1911 (various makers)

    What I can tell you is this.... between my shooting of them, and my review of military testing (which is vastly more extensive than anything I've ever been able to afford to do), my favorites are the Glock and the HK. I personally think the HK is better overall. But because the Glock costs about $500 brand new, and the H&K is about $900-$1000 in my neck of the woods (and the Glock is about 97% there), I go with Glock.

    That being said, I think the difference is about 10%. And, it's subjective to my preferences. If I liked steel framed pistols more, I might prefer the CZ, or the Smith 5906....

    That being said, to me it's silly to have a head to head fight about the upper-end of handguns. They are all good. And the difference between them is so slight (in terms of overall quality), that it's virtually irrelevant.
     
  2. fourwedge

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    I think it is helpful to hear what some of our honest members think about comparisons between different brands. It is important to when to not listen to someone because they can only see it one way and wouldn't even try a brand because it is" tupperware" or Overpriced" or it's "not a Glock". I rather enjoy some of the banter but obviously some of the opinions are better off being ignored.
     
  3. BillH

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    The Best??

    Well I can sense you're frustration, but it seems you wouldn't be so confused if a Sig had been on your list. I can only imagine it would have been at the top!! :D
    ( Truly though I envy your experience with all the others.)
     
  4. SharpsDressedMan

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    +1 on the quality of the handguns today. My choices may vary, as yours does, due to personal preference. Some people have bad experience with certain choices, and it turns into bashing, or heralding the replacement. As I stated in the previous thread about which 9mm was the most reliable, it's more important to know your clearing and malfuction drills than to expect that they will NEVER occur with your handgun of choice. PS: A typical, foolish, internet response to "Which 9mm is the most reliable?" is "Get a .40 or .45"; not an answer, and no help at all........................:rolleyes:
     
  5. SwampWolf

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    You're right-this is really irritating! And absurd too. :rolleyes:
     
  6. BossHogg

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    I know what ya'll say,I love the ones that start out I don't have one but ....
     
  7. EddieNFL

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    A person either contributes to the arguments or ignores the thread. Not sure why he would complain in either case.

    And this isn't limited to handguns; pick a product.
     
  8. LSCurrier

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    I didn't see any of the following:

    Dan Wesson 1911
    Springfield 1911
    Ed Brown 1911
    Wilson Combat 1911
    Les Baer 1911

    so I can understand why you don't feel like the perfect handgun has been found.

    Perhaps you can try one of these and we can settle this issue once and for all - as a good 1911 is the answer.

    Luke
     
  9. ReadyontheRight

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    So...You obviously have not shot a 1911 often enough.:evil:

    But Seriously. I agree. Most of the pistols you mentioned are either "just fine" or "great". It all depends on your need and experience. I like the 1911 for target shooting range work, but the Glock, XD, HK and many others solve some serious, real-world dangers in the 1911 design.

    Oh, and I think that apples are much better than oranges.:evil:
     
  10. BHP FAN

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    No Browning Hi-Power? no wonder you are frustrated...poor fellow!
     
  11. ReloaderFred

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    mordechaianiliewicz,

    This would have been a better post if you had stopped typing after the second sentence and just left it at that. You inadvertantly started another "my gun is best" thread with the rest of the post.

    But that's just my simple observation.

    Hope this helps.

    Fred
     
  12. NMGonzo

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    No Bersa?
     
  13. Floppy_D

    Floppy_D Member In Memoriam

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    Good point. :)
     
  14. CZ223

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    We all have our opinions

    Some of us realize that our opinion doesn't count anymore than anyone elses and some don't. I'm like the Tiger Woods of guns, I have one that I love but I like to fool around with lots of others.:neener:
     
  15. Kingofthehill

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    Cute list.

    Ive "Used or owned" easily 3x that...and guess what? that doesn't make my OPINION any greater than yours or anyone else here for that matter.

    You just basically said HK's are top notch but over priced so Glock wins...

    JOe
     
  16. Samgotit

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    And here in lies the rub. I bet a full 80% of the people answering those threads own one pistol... Maybe two. And how many of those people have put more than 200 rounds through them, let alone the number of people who have never used their weapons in some kind of practical shooting environment, high round count classes and the like. Because outside of being a ninja operator and reading Super Modern Shotgun and Pistol Tactical Warrior Weekly, where is a person going to real information about his gun?

    I'm sure the people answering are 'honest', but it sure would be nice to know what kind of experience is backing up their one-word posts.
     
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    Yea, but if it were not for those kinds of threads there would be no point in having internet forums.
     
  18. walker944

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    Yeah, I get tired of all the 'best' threads too, and usually do not participate in them. I think they are a bit juvenile, since 'best' is a very subjective thing, based mostly on opinion. What one person likes, another detests. It's a never ending discussion that has no right or wrong answer. In my opinion, and that's pretty much all any of us have here, it's a pointless, directionless debate.
     
  19. Hatterasguy

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    Its odvious, the best is clearly the 1911.:D
     
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    Just guessing he hasn't shot a Kimber yet either....love it:D
     
  21. MachIVshooter

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    There are ways to word it that do not offend others or embellish. Some of us who would be insulting our own collections if we were so staunch and used one-word (one brand) responses have figured this out.

    The Glock and Ruger crowd seem to be the biggest offenders when it comes to brand loyalty beyond reasonable, almost like it's a religion.
     
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    Enjoy life. Why let these nonsense internet pissing matches get your blood pressure up? I don't get it.
     
  23. 12131

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    Btw, Glock and Ruger are really superior.:evil:
     
  24. wow6599

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    I know a guy with a Glock that has over 10,000,000 rds through it and not one failure..........never cleaned it either :D

    Look, I have a Ruger GP100 that has made me swear off Ruger completely and a Glock 20 that is having some growing pains (FTFeed beaking it in) and a Kel-Tec P-11 and P-3AT that have been 100% reliable.
    Would I take a Colt 1911 over a Hi-Point.....of course, but I wouldn't bet money that the Colt will function any better than the Hi-Point out of the box.
     
  25. Boats

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    It's a rather amusing debate really. I have owned an H&K USP45c, and I have found this lowly Ruger to be a much more fun, accurate, and reliable weapon.

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