They just ran a story on fox that said gun purchases up

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It is extremely sad that the edited number of posts in this thread outnumber the actual posts because of political content. THR is going down the drain.

Until the heavy hand of moderation is lifted, I'll be spending my time over at the true THR, (Oleg's THR) at:

http://www.thehighroad.us/
 
I agree, but do not make decisions out of fear. If you do, then someone else is controlling you. Always take a second to breathe and review the best course of action, if you concur with your fear decision, then do it, but do not be goaded by fear into a position.
Very well put!

CRITGIT
 
Went to the gunstore today actually, was looking for a Glock 26 and they had none. The guy behind the counter said that they have had quite a run in the past couple weeks...
 
Strangely enough, got a call from my brother in law today, a non-political, non-gun owner. Wanted my advice on buying a gun.

Looks like it's going to be a good year for the gun industry......

I wish more of them would plow some more of their profits back into insuring future business......
 
People must not be buying too many guns since the gun companies are resorting to heavy rebating to dillute inventories.
 
It is extremely sad that the edited number of posts in this thread outnumber the actual posts because of political content. THR is going down the drain.

No. If you'll go back and pull up old posts, you'll see that several have been edited or locked because the topic was drifting into a political slugfest. This is nothing new.

Again, we don't do this because we get our jollies from lording it over anyone. We do it because:

A. It's off-topic, and doesn't appear to be salvageable.

B. It's turned into a political debate instead of a gun-related discussion.

And C...Because we've noticed that a few of the combatants are drawing close to a ban.

We don't like to ban people, especially people who have been good members for months or years...and letting one slip in the heat of the moment get them booted. "A stitch in time" comes to mind. "Putting out fires" also applies.

You'll also notice that I edited the posts with no further action...not even a warning to any of the participants. More than that, I hard deleted them instead of soft deleting so that they couldn't be reviewed by senior admin who could have possibly banned them anyway...and likely would have after I'd stepped in and tried to steer it back on course.

Seems that I'm damned if I do and damned if I don't. Ah, well. Onward...

This is the third time I've tried to make this clear, even though I didn't have to do it even the first time. I won't try again. Either you get it or you don't.

Armed Polite Society is available for such discussions. All ya gotta do is hit the link and go get'em.
 
1911tuner, I just read your sig, and it made me cry.....

Speak kindly to me, beloved master. Revel in my unconditional love, and give me every minute that you can spare, for my time with you is short.
--Your faithful dog

Course, I was sitting here missing my old Lab already......

Sure hope I live my life good enough, that God see's fit to let us be together again someday.....
 
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Sorry about your loss Elmer.

After not buying a gun for 20 years, I am in the market for a couple new ones. The election is just a poorly timed coincidence though.
 
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My SIL purchased her first gun over the weekend. She comes from a rabidly liberal household... So, I guess there is some psycological need for rebellian, but then again there could be real fear distilling into the sheep.
 
you don't litter the board with your nazism.
:what: Wow.....

Tuner deleted posts that should have been deleted, including mine. Personally, I was surprised the thread was not locked. At least he gave us a chance to get on track. ;)


Yep, I have bought a couple of guns I might not have, just because. I hear people who aren't really even gun folks talking about " I better get one while I can etc....
 
one webforum i was using had a "Shark Tank" for posts like the above.....
( the FBI&DEA closed it down, bugger...)

i wasn´t a mod there since the 90´s, and i sure
know a Troll when i sees one :)
 
1911 Tuner is a fair and honest Man and mod. Cut 'im some slack - he's doing what he thinks is best for the forum.

Biker
 
I bought two semi-auto handguns this week in anticipation of greater restrictions.
 
Arcturus is correct. I'm not a good moderator. I've taken flak from the admin and other mods for my failures to document rule violations, preferring instead to handle problems at the lowest possible level rather than pushing the button on people who have been good members up to the point that they crossed the line.

Other than outright trolls or spammers, I probably have fewer than a half-dozen ban notches on my hammer, and about the same number of documented warnings.

I take the flak...not the members...and I'll continue to do the same.

"No, Major! No problem here. Just the lads expressing themselves and having a little fun...sir."
 
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I think there was a misunderstanding about my post. I was not putting you down 1911. I was referring to the ridiculous multi-post from a guy who is criticizing you about how to moderate.

I am an administrator of a fairly busy board. I have been accused of being unfair or too strict, but one rule we have is "The enforcement of these rules is at the complete discretion of the Administrators and Moderators of this site and every situation is dealt with strictly on a case-by-case basis."

I feel that this covers the whiners. :)

I don't think you have done anything too strict. You are keeping with the non-political theme of the board but leaving the thread open to continue as best we can.

On topic, I am looking to buy a used 10/22. I'd also like to get a .22 auto pistol and also a larger caliber auto pistol for possibly CCW (and get that license soon).
 
I've been picking up some stuff...mainly because depending on what happens, prices could go up quite a lot.

If prices don't go up, I can still sell anything I've purchased for what I've got in it...:)
 
Zoogster said:
Perhaps they meant criminals will be resorting to crime more in tough economic times, so self defense is more important than ever?

I'm not sure that it is "criminals" who will be resorting to "more crime" that makes self defense so important in this situation. I think rather it is people who may be borderline, trying to make an honest living, but coming up on harder and harder times, who might cross that line for the first time.

Desperation can lead people to take actions they would never consider in better times. More desperate people leads to more people crossing that line, which increases the need for self defense.
 
In case anyone is interested in the actual facts :) see Eugene Volokh's discussion - he's a law prof libertarian. It turns out

So it's hard to see how this supports the "concerns about the economy" story; there's always some concern about the economy, but I have no reason to think that it somehow dramatically increased in late 2005 or early 2006, and then decreased in 2008 compared to 2007. And I don't see how it supports the "fears of future gun controls" story, especially since you'd think that most of the buying along those lines will happen when the gun controls are actually proposed and working their way through the legislative process, rather than just when a pro-gun-control President might seem likely to be elected. So the Washington Post rationales seem to be supported by the quotes they use from the particular sources they rely on, but not by the hard data.

http://volokh.com/

Mike
 
I'm a relatively new gun owner with a 22 LR pistol.

Tonight I went out and bought a used Beretta 9000S. I did this because a) I think that there will be limitations on gun purchases and ammunition in the near future and b) I am afraid that the current political climate has the potential to get ugly. I live in the distant suburbs of Boston so I really don't have a rational reason to fear "civil unrest" but for some reason I wanted that second gun.

The guys at the gun store told me that they are selling tons of ammunition. Others must feel the same way.

I hope this isn't viewed as political.

Turner, I also like your signature. We've had two collies in the past and really miss them both.
 
People fearing Obama's potential gun control."

If he outlaws all semi-automatic rifles and pistols, and orders they be turned in, then what? All the money spent goes down the tube. If he does not outlaw all semi-automatic rifles and pistols, then go out and buy one. No money wasted.
 
I agree, but do not make decisions out of fear. If you do, then someone else is controlling you. Always take a second to breathe and review the best course of action, if you concur with your fear decision, then do it, but do not be goaded by fear into a position.

I can't agree with the above statement. To a large degree we are controlled, by the pecking order. We have jobs, go to school, have bills to pay, and many other responsibilities. If you take too many days off from work, you fear losing your job. If you don't study for a test, you fear failure, if you don't pay your bills, you fear a foreclosure on your home, having you electric or gas shut off. Fear is most definitely a motivating factor. JMO
 
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