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Thinking of a .45 but need opinions

Discussion in 'Handguns: General Discussion' started by Dynasty, Sep 30, 2007.

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  1. Dynasty

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    After shooting a 9mm and a .45 at a friend's, I came to the conclusion that I like the .45 better. I would like to get a .45 for target shooting and home/personal defense, but there are many guns out there. I would like to stay below $400 if possible. I want something that is reliable, accurate, requires minimal maintenace, and will last for years down the road. I have done some research and came up with a list that could possibly fit the bill.

    - Hi-Point .45 ACP $145 (http://www.impactguns.com/store/752334345103.html)
    *Life time warranty, not an attractive gun, made in OH (I live in OH), seem to be reliable with minimal jams
    - Ruger P345 $400 (http://www.impactguns.com/store/736676066025.html)
    *Seems to be very well built, I couldn't find many negative things about it
    - Taurus PT 24/7 $330 (http://www.impactguns.com/store/725327602033.html)
    *Read some problems like failure to feed and nosedives, also some jams, but have seen videos of it buried in dirt and run over with a car and it still shoots
    - EAA Witness 45ACP $350 (http://www.impactguns.com/store/741566111136.html)
    *Seems to be good quality, not too many people that own them have anything negative to report
    - Glock Model 21 $550 (http://www.impactguns.com/store/PI2150203.html)
    *People seem to swear by Glock, more than I want to spend

    What do you suggest?
     
  2. lee n. field

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    Ruger P90
     
  3. Crunker1337

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    GLOCK all the way, if you want to spend that much. Why not buy one used?
     
  4. BigO01

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    Heard many good things about the EAA Witness and have been considering one myself .

    Hi Point 1 nephew has one it is a fine paperweight nothing else .

    Ruger tough as nails and dependable but I hate the Ruger triggers I have shot .

    Taurus seems like a nice gun but a light weight 45 ? Hmmm , Not sure this is a good caliber for that .

    Glock , same as Taurus a bit to light for my taste and more than your $400 range .

    Have you considered looking at Gunbroker for an RIA or HighStandard 1911 in 45 . Same gun different names stamped on frame can still be had under $400 in many places . Centerfire Systems " http://www.centerfiresystems.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWCATS&Category=58 " still lists the RIA at $339.99 and the spiffed up tactical model at $379.99 I would suggest the tactical the upgrades are worth the $40 easily .

    There is also the SAM for about the same price $329.99 at Centerfire Systems and Century also imports then and has a Commander version " The Commadore with a 4 1/4 barrel" all for under $400 or so I am told .
    http://www.centuryarms.biz/products.asp?cat=21&pg=2

    I have examined a few SAM copies of the Government model and have been impressed with them and have had a good report from a Commadore owner over at 1911.org .

    Good luck in your search .
     
  5. Ala Dan

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    Your List Looks Bleak

    If it boiled down to the Ruger, or the Glock; I would choose Glock every time,
    but that is a matter of personal preference. The High Point would have been
    launched into the deepest nearby river; and the other's would be shelved,
    awaiting further evaluation~! :scrutiny:;):D
     
  6. shadowalker

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    If you watch the gun shows you should be able to get a new XD for around $450, and used for less, you also can get a CPO Sig for around $450, you should also be able to find a glock for less than $550, if you haven't you could look at the S&W M&P too.

    I own several Rugers, they are reliable, acceptably accurate, and my P90 handles recoil very well (it is pretty heavy), I wouldn't pay more than $350 or so for one though, once you get over $400 there are better choices.

    45 is a great caliber but if you are new to firearms and wont be reloading it will cost you, 9mm is considerably cheaper to shoot, has less recoil making it a great target caliber and is acceptable for self defense.
     
  7. Zeke Menuar

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    I wouldn't consider any of those.

    Take a look at the XD45 Series.

    ZM
     
  8. Texas Colt

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    I would say EAA Witness, Glock or Springfield XD. I really depends on which one fits your hand better.

    I have one friend who owns a Hi-Point. It's pretty much a paper weight. While it does go bang when you pull the trigger, you never know where the bullet is going to strike. It's all over the map, as much as 3 feet low at 15 yards!!!

    Another friend owns the Ruger. It has been back to the factory 3 times. It's finally working okay, but I could never trust it.

    Remember, in most cases you get what you pay for.
     
  9. novaDAK

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    My Ruger KP90 has been great. i paid about 300 used (though they're out there for less than that) And the trigger is unbelievable. It's different than my other Rugers for some reason. The DA is smooth, and the SA is surprisingly light. (lighter and crisper than my hi-power! :) )
     
  10. eldon519

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    If you decide to step into the Glock price range, I'd also recommend looking at the Springfield XD45 ($500), the Springfield Mil-spec 1911 ($600), and the S&W M&P45 ($485).

    All prices are off Budsgunshop.com, but I think you could do alot better on the Mil-spec 1911. I got one not long ago for $550.

    I think it is well worth the extra money to step up and start looking at the Glock and the above mentioned pistols. You really get alot for that extra $100 or so.
     
  11. Chris B

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    +1 for SA XD .45. Great triggers, great ergonomics, surprisingly little felt recoil for such a light gun.
     
  12. Dusey

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    Glock. Buy it now, or buy something inferior now and end up buying the Glock later.
     
  13. novaDAK

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    That is a stupid-a** comment right there. Glocks aren't superior to everything you know... :rolleyes:
     
  14. ArchAngelCD

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    I'm a little surprised you didn't mention the S&W M&P .45 Auto. I looked on Impact Guns and they have one for $531.99
    http://www.impactguns.com/store/022188093063.html From everything I've heard it's a great pistol that reliable and accurate.
     
  15. wally

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    In your price range, take a look at the RIA "Tactical". IMHO best value on the market for an entry level 1911, Good warrenty support. Check out the Armscor/RIA forum over at forum.m1911.org where you can learn more and talk to factory representatives.

    --wally.
     
  16. bones42

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    +1 for the Springfield XD 45

    They are available at a reasonable price. Factory mags can be found at a reasonable price. It goes bang every time I pull the trigger. :)

    You can't wrong with Glock or a Quality 1911 either if they can be found in your price range either. Shoot as many as you can before making your decision and get the one that suits you best.
     
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    You really ought to save a few bucks and move yourself up to the $500 mark. At that point you have most of the polymer-framed pistols available. You should easily get a Glock,XD,or M&P for $500,or even a good used Sig 220 which would be my choice. With this auction, you're looking at about $500 for the pistol,4 mags,shipping,and transfer fee on your end. Not a bad deal.
     
  18. Arkie

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    If I were you, I would see about putting a few rounds down range for the guns you listed and see just how they feel to you.


    I have the Ruger P345 and I like it a lot. I've never owned a Glock and never shot one. But I like my pistols to have hammers on them. It's just me. LOL.
     
  19. HM2PAC

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    Off of your list my choice would be:

    1. EAA Witness
    2. Glock

    Out of everything else that has been recommended:

    1. RIA 1911A1
    2. CPO Sig
    3. SA XD45

    It sounds as though you liked your friends .45, what was it?

    What it all boils down to for me is this:
    Do I shoot it well?
    Does the model have a spotty track record?

    If something out there is generating a lot of hate and discontent, stay away from it. Sort it out into preference vs. real problem.

    Good Luck
     
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    There are a great many words to describe a comment like that. Clueless and arrogant definitely come to mind. Wrong is another...................

    To the original post, of the firearms you've listed, the Witness will be the most pleasant shooter. EAA is a PITA company, but Tanfoglio makes a good pistol. I own two and my sister has one (all 10mm's) and we are perfectly happy with them. The Taurus are OK, but have had some issues (not that other guns don't, but Taurus' customer service is abominable). If you're gonna go ruger, I'd suggest the P90 over the P345. The Glock is a Glock; reliable and durable, but ugly as sin and unpleasant to hold. I wouldn't even consider the Hi-Point.

    As mentioned, the Rock Island 1911's give alot of bang for the buck. People are also very happy with the XD's. And if you're gonna step up in the $550 range of the Glock, might want to consider the S&W M&P .45. Don't forget about used guns, either. You can get a decent S&W 4506 or 4516 for around $400.
     
  21. mgregg85

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    Give the XD's a try if you are thinking about a glock. They have all the benefits and add a grip safety and tend to have a better trigger pull. With the XD45 compact you have your choice of a concealable 10+1 carry weapon or a 13+1 HD/target/sport shooting weapon. I have found that they tend to be a bit cheaper than glocks too, unless your buying used. I bought my XD45 compact for $500 after looking at a used glock 21 for $475.
     
  22. Newton

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    Was that really called for?
     
  23. MachIVshooter

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    What words would you use to describe a statement telling a newcomer to the world of guns that he'd better buy a Glock because everything else is junk? I think my adjectives fit perfectly.
     
  24. xsquidgator

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    If you can't up your price range a little, I've heard good things (and apparently some people here have too) about the Rock Island Armory 1911 .45s, and the Ruger P series in 45ACP.

    If you can go up another $100 or so, I don't think you can go wrong with either a (1) Glock 21 or 30, (2) a Smith and Wesson M&P45 or (3) a Springfield Armory XD45.

    I picked the M&P45 and have been very pleased with it after perhaps 1000 rounds. Reliable and accurate, and excellent (for me anyway) ergonomics. The M&P felt better and more natural in my hand than did the XD45 so that's what it came down to for me.

    I've shot Glocks and like them ok, and you hear a lot of good things about reliability etc with them. Two things about Glocks make them controversial to some people... the cartridge in the chamber is supported less than in other firearms, which some say makes them more susceptible to kabooms. And, the polygonal rifling means you shouldn't shoot plain lead bullets through them or risk eventual bore obstructions and a kaboom. Some people say they do shoot lead through Glocks just fine, I don't know but I wasn't comfortable with that myself. For maybe $100 you can get an aftermarket barrel to drop in your Glock to change it to conventional rifling, but then you have a $600+ glock instead of what it normally costs.

    Whatever you get, if you get a 45 I'd recommend you splurge the couple hundred bucks like I did and get into reloading, else you're gonna spend a LOT of dough on factory 45 ammo. Reload with plain lead bullets instead of jacketed, and you can make a box of 50 for $5 or $6 if you already have some brass. Sure beats paying close to $30 for a 100 pack of WWB at your local walmart. All that said, whoever gave you the advice about just getting a 9mm for your first pistol has some good points. 9mm is perfectly fine for SD and for practice, and is much less painful in the wallet. I reload 9mm too but it's not quite as crucial to reload with 9mm to make shooting affordable.
     
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    It has already ben said a few times but I must repeat.... Springfield XD in .45 ACP..... I love mine more than anything, second to only my wife and child. the guy at the gunstore recomended a Ruger P-345 for my first .45, and I like it, but I liked the XD more, I got the tactical one (5 inch barrel) and love it it is a big gun, and I would want nothing less.
     
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