If budget is an issue check out the Ruger American. I have one in 308 and it is amazingly accurate right out of the box. I bought it at Rural King on sale for a beat around truck gun and was surprised that its price does not reflect on it's performance.
Plenty enough that I turned one into a swap barrel rifle with the "large" chambering being .458Winchester.........only got about 100rnds down the pipe so far tho.
Hi everybody thankyou for your advice. I appreciate all the suggestions but I was really only asking about the Remington 700 vs the Winchester Model 70 in this post , but now I have a lot of idea to keep in mind for my next gun so the other suggestions won't go to waist!
As for the conclusion I just got back from my local FFL a few hours ago and I ended up with the Remington 700, ( I also consulted with my uncle who has both ). The decision was mostly made by availability and I did have to give up on by blued barrel and walnut stock. After some searching on gun broker, cabbalas/bassproshop, buds guns, ect, ect... I found that the availability of Remington 700's available for sale in .308 was essentially non-existent. I was luckily able to find one at my favorite local FFL, I swear these guys have been magicians when it having stuff in-stock during this shortage (they are always complaining their stock is pitiful at the moment but I swear they are 20x better than any of the other shops at the moment.) It was black cerakote barrel and with a magpul chassis.
It was a little more than I wanted to pay ($1200) but was reasonable given the current market and locally guns tend to more expensive than the national average anyways. But they cut me a deal on my optic and once all the fees and taxes are paid and I have filed my PD-219 with DC I will still be under $1800.
I will post pictures after I am able to pick it up from the store which will be 10 days or whenever I get my PD-219 back whichever is longer
And remember to support your favorite Pro 2-A groups because there are people that advocate that everywhere should have the same kind of ridiculousness we have here in DC, and going through this for the first time in over a year has reminded why I donate to organizations that fight for our rights! (like seriously it is absolutely ridiculous even the cops that work in the gun registration office seem to think the laws it's their job to enforce are ridiculous like people that support gun registration have never had to go through it, I literally know lawyers that I shoot with that have screwed up the registration process in DC, if lawyers can't keep up with the rules what hope is there for the rest of us!)
My only beef is the forearm of the stock should be more rigid. I'm thinking of milling a slot through the factory webbing and acraglassing an aluminum rod in the forearm but never have taken the time to do it.
Would you suggest angle aluminum or a carbon fiber arrow shaft?
Aluminum arrows aren’t nearly as stiff since the walls aren’t very thick, and carbon arrows almost aren’t stiff at all.
A guy can pour the entire forend full of epoxy and it comes out stiff as a beam, but you add a pound and a half of epoxy. Adding an arrow, rod, all thread, etc does add stiffness over just raw epoxy, but it’s kind of “dumb weight,” while we could get much more stiffness out of that same mass, or the same stiffness with less mass if it were structurally intelligent, instead of just “fill holes so it can’t bend, then it won’t bend.”
Also, angle can be laid “V up” in the barrel channel so its channel will nest with the barrel channel, kinda reducing its profile in the stock. A rod or tube with similar stiffness is larger in profile, so it has to be sank deeper into the stock. For the weight and intrusion into the forend, I really like angle.
of four friends with 700s or 721s, two have broken extractors that they've not yet found a local smith to fix.
I found that the availability of Remington 700's available for sale in .308 was essentially non-existent. I was luckily able to find one at my favorite local FFL, I swear these guys have been magicians when it having stuff in-stock during this shortage (they are always complaining their stock is pitiful at the moment but I swear they are 20x better than any of the other shops at the moment.) It was black cerakote barrel and with a magpul chassis
That's a bit odd. They discontinued the riveted extractors in the mid 1980s. I can understand the frustration of finding some to repair an old gun. Most gunsmith today are part swappers rather than the old machinists who can and do make darned near anything. Not sure what bearing that might have on newer rifles.
From your description I assume that's a used rifle someone customized? Would be interested to know what trigger is in it. Hope you enjoy it!