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Thinnest skin American? winner: Californians

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by springwalk, Nov 23, 2010.

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  1. springwalk

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    When it comes to the award to the thinnest skinned Americans the honor clearly goes to those from CALIFORNIA. Naturally, I dont have anything against the Left coast as I live here too just to the north in Oregon. Yet when I discuss gun rights with those from Cali they seem so biitter:(. Many, even though I suspect they are on our side, they tend to crazily justify the laws they live under as though its the way our Founders intended. Puzzling. Do Californians have a case of Stockholm syndrome? Why would any true American loving freedom seeker embrace the action of California legislator? Is the nature of humans to justify what controls them?
     
  2. Hardtarget

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    I have never lived in any state other than Tennessee...except for 18 months in '69-'70. Didn't know anyone there so I only shot and hunted while home on break. Tenn. is still mostly pro gun and I have many friends that are rabid pro gun...so I can't really understand the sheep mentality. Don't even want to, either. It just makes me want to :banghead:

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  3. hso

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    There's no percentage in this approach to discussing California/California Gun Laws/Californians.

    There are dedicated RKBA folks in California continuing the struggle against tough dedicated opposition and those folks do not deserve our criticism, but instead deserve our support.

    If you've spent any time in California, playing or working, you'll have to admit it is one of the most beautiful states in the country. That's a big part of what keeps native Californians there. If your company has an office (or offices) there you know that it is also where a lot of folks make a very good living. These days that's nothing to turn your nose up at.

    So when you ask why anyone stays in California ask yourself instead why would a dedicated RKBA advocate who lives in a beautiful state and who has a good job abandon such a place to a bunch of antis?
     
  4. springwalk

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    My 5 months living in California included 1 month in the desert serving to train for the Army under NTC, also a 4 month backpack adventure along the Pacific Crest Trail from the mexico border to the Canadian border. I can say, along with the rabid northeast on the Appalachian Trail, theres no place more needing in carrying protection. Oddly, none of these places extend the liberty of one to carry for protection:fire:. Yes, I despise blue states:(.
     
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    See, 4 months hiking the Pacific Crest Trail (that's an impressive feat!) isn't going to give an accurate impression of the whole state of California or even all Californians any more than an AT hike is going to show the whole of the states it meanders through (I've only section hiked the AT). It did give you a solid idea that the state isn't just the urban jungles that only part of the population lives in. There are a lot of rural Californians who feel like most of the members here do, but they're not the ones organized and putting anti's in office.
     
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    HSO, if you dont like criticism of Cali then you need to do some research as there is no need for the excesive legislation, but more freedoms for protection given the diverse population of criminals that reside in the Golden State. Its easy to defend when you dont reside in a state of degeneracy.
     
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    California has a lot of problems but the biggest is the exodus of employers to other states. Arizona, Texas and Idaho should be sending California's legislature thank you cards. How do you spell D E F A U L T
     
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    As a CA resident, I find that CA residents are the most accepting of anything (pro gay marriage, pro-choice, pro gun-rights)

    The problem is that in the super-urban and suburban environments they tend to be anti-gun (see soccer moms). This also affects the politicians because of the gang problems and wanting to appear "tough on crime." The problem is people only buy that gun control helps for so long before they figure they're being duped (some of them anyway).

    Also I'd like to add that this OP doesn't seem to be inviting a discussions other than "let's all bash CA residents"

    "let's all bash CA gun laws" is fine with me, but I don't see a reason for this thread.
     
  9. elcaminoariba

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    YES!

    I just watched a very high budget and slick commercial by our state government owned transportation "authority" using my sales tax dollars to show me how impressive "their" buses and trains are, and nagging me to go and pay to ride what I've paid for with my taxes a thousand times over, instead of taking my car straight to my destination. Earlier we were driving around town and had to wait because one of these empty buses was hogging the road and going slow as it spewed pollution into the air, I guess so we could all see and appreciate the humongous advertisements on all four sides of the empty behemoth.

    Yes is the unequivocal answer to that question and as I just explained, it aint just california.
     
  10. springwalk

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    elcamin, at least theres someone who sees what I see:). Its getting to be quite disturbing how easily even fellow "conservative white males" have become tools for excessive socialism. I live in a major retreat for Californians here in Oregon and the stupidity of justification is maddening for what Cali has become. In one sentence they admit how lousy their guns rights are there and also mention how good it is that they cant own hi-capacity magazines:uhoh:. ***! I've met Europeans & Canadians the same. I really dont believe the answer is to defend and hope for places like Cali, New Jersey, York, Massachusetts and Illinois will magically embrace the 2nd Amend. The answer is to view them as a cancer and begin to isolate for surgery, seriously. You are crazy to think they will change for what the Founders intended. I see the cancer spreading here in the Pacific NorthWest, today.
     
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    So no one living in California is allowed to defend the state, then? :confused: What sort of logic is that?

    I spent the first 30 or so years of my life in California, and attitudes like yours are just silly. I knew lots of people who hunted and fished and enjoyed shooting, just like folks in other states do. I grew up in the very rural parts of northern and central California, and I can say that the whole stereotype of Californians as wealthy liberals who hate the constitution and welcome draconian gun laws is nonsense. There may be some of them, and they may be in power, but they sure don't represent the whole state. There are lots of people working to preserve what few rights they have left, and slowly regain some of what's been taken from them.

    I will say that I am very glad that I live in Washington now, and I can't imagine what it would be like to move back to California and not be able to carry my gun with me.

    What exactly are you hoping to gain from this statewide insult? Make yourself feel better by insulting someone else? What good does that do?
     
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    mountmen, you said it. You wouldnt live in Cali today because of the state of it as they wont let you carry your protection. What good does it do to be politically correct and say Cali is a great place to live when it really isnt unless you are a leftist extremist that detests traditional family values? Lets be real, California scored a 72 by the Brady Campaign! Highest score of all states:(.
     
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    Don't try to twist what I said. I live in Washington because I married a girl who was already here, and we found it a good place to settle. We both have family in California, and you just called all of them leftist extremist liberals who detest family values. You're a jerk.
     
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    mountmen, I didnt say all Cali was liberal nut jobs, but they did re-elect Babs Boxer after years of gubbermint downfall:confused:. Maybe your right?
     
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    IMO California firearm laws are at a crossroads. Some recent restrictive legislation was turned back. AB962 (ammo law) has multiple lawsuits against it. There's a lot of fight left with the outcome unsure, but a fight is there nonetheless.
     
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    Your words have located you, and I'm not speaking of your geographic location either. I can prove that you are a slave sir. Terrible "State" to live in being a slave that thinks he's free. Nobody is more hopelessly enslaved than a slave laughing at the plight of other slaves.

    As I said, I can prove what I claim. If you want to become free (Man Up) pm me and I'll show you how to become free using the THR system as a communication medium.
     
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    We can't forget the recent close victory to retain unloaded open carry. Off list lower receivers are everywhere in Cali now. I think the anti gun extremists are running out of gas in Cali. The public gave them a couple of decades to try their leftist gun ban crap, and now even the "centrist" californians are sick of it. Gay marriage and pot have taken over their time, and the latter HELPS our cause of freedom.
     
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    A&O, you are a Californian and destine to migrate north to Oregon. Give me a jingle and I'll show you freedom. We'll have a gay(not homo) old time.
     
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    Who on earth is this directed at?! If you want a response, try quoting the person you're talking to.

    Oh yeah -- and man up?! Do you have a lot of takers using this line? :rolleyes:
     
  20. Librarian

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    We've got lots of problems.

    But we're working on fixing them.

    See the Calguns Foundation.
     
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    And the slaves cry....

    Any responses on this forum are to the OP. Thread Rules 101
     
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    The Librarian know what he is talking about

    We in Ca are on the front lines in the 2A fight and we aren't losing ground. When people desert the state, for free states, we start down a slippery slope.

    What you see as being thin skinned is just part of the tolerance for different points of view that CA is famous for. Our local 2A movement includes folks from all belief systems and both sides of the political system...yes there are many liberals that love their guns too. And I even know some who wouldn't own a firearm, but would defend my right to own and carry one because it is just the right thing to do.
     
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    My Mom just visited my family in CA, and told them all what I'd just bought (my first gun). The reaction was that every man in the family (my uncles and male cousins) all showed her their guns. I don't think 2A is dead there, but I'd never live there for other reasons (I hate the weather).
     
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    Half of my co-workers think I'm a crazy militia member because I own more than a hunting rifle and I have a large Browning safe bolted to the ground. The area I live in leans more to the "anti" side than the "accepting" side of gun rights. We narrowly escaped the vote on banning open carry, and don't think for a second they won't try again.

    CA Residents: If you value your RKBA at all, get involved! Whether is be through donations, rallys, marches, or writing/calling your elected officials. Every little bit helps, even talking to folks willing to listen without sounding like a rabid gun owner wanting to shoot everything in sight.
     
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    :what:
     
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