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This is how the Mossberg 100 ATR Night Train should look like

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by yarik72, Jun 18, 2010.

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  1. yarik72

    yarik72 Member

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    Specs:

    Mossberg 100 ATR 30-06 action and barrel
    McMillan A5 stock
    Nikon 3-9x40
    Pillar and glass bedded
    Trigger tuned to about 2.5lb
    Remington 700 ADL trigger guard

    Before I switched out stocks it was shooting .25" groups at 100 yards if I did my part. I'm going to try to hit the range tomorrow.

    Next mods are going to be a Tac Ops cheek piece and bolt knob

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  2. tkopp

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    If I had a rifle shooting a quarter MOA I wouldn't so much as clean it more than necessary, much less swap the stock.
     
  3. yarik72

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    The factory stock was really uncomfortable for me. I played with this stock on another rifle before deciding to swap mine out. If it wouldn't shoot as well as it does I probably wouldn't have done anything. But this wasn't the case. :D
     
  4. R.W.Dale

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    1/4 MOA From a stock hunting weight gun with a 9x scope.

    That's UM? quite noteworthy.
     
  5. shotgunjoel

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    I think that the term you are looking for is BS. Maybe the OP is confused on how to measure MOA? How many shots in that .25 MOA group, two?
     
  6. Nick5182

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    Sweet lookin rifle! I was in my local shop yesterday, and he has a Savage 10FP in .308 for $599. I'm going to try to pick it up soon.
     
  7. Tim the student

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    No kidding.
     
  8. yarik72

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    yarik72, don't be offended by the skeptics, as they know how difficult it is to achieve consistent 1/4"-3/8" groups.

    I viewed your targets, and I'm a believer. You have an exceptional
    Mossberg 100 ATR there, and the new stock looks great.



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  10. Col. Plink

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    Perhaps not so exceptional? I also had one in 30'06 that was sub MOA out of the box with (shudder!) "Chinese" glass! I didn't have a use for it but it was so accurate I almost regret selling it. The price point only made it more impressive. The OP should brace for the 'that's a horrible design' posts to follow...
     
  11. jpwilly

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    Hummm, I have an ATR-100 30-06 But it's only shot 1" to .75" groups at 100yrds (still not bad).

    How did you bed yours (in the original stock) & What replacement stock fits the ATR-100?

    Gave it a Krylon paint job:

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  12. yarik72

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    Thank you sir. I had a feeling someone would throw up the BS flag. All they had to do was ask for some target pictures :rolleyes:.

    Bedding and a trigger tune, I think, made it that much easier to be consistent in tight groups. Of course the shooter is the major factor in all cases. I spent a good amount of time just shooting it and working on my technique. Of course I feel it's still not the best and I can do better with more practice. I had a local gunsmith bed it. As far as I know there aren't any direct replacement stocks available. Before I started on my venture of finding a new stock, I had read on this forum that the 100 ATR was very very similar in design to the Howa 1500 and that the stock might be interchangeable. However, I didn't want to take the chance of ordering a Howa stock and it wouldn't work at all. It was suggested to me on another forum that I order a flat top stock from a reputable stock maker and have my gunsmith custom inlet it. So that's what I did. One thing that my gunsmith told me was that the 100 ATR design is also close in design to how a Savage sits in its stock mainly because the action screws are the same distance apart. He suggested that I could have ordered a long action Savage stock and he would have been able to make that work as well. But I decided since I had come this far to proceed with him inletting the flat top I provided. Needless to say I'm very pleased. :)
     
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    A .25" Mossberg, thats something you don't see everyday. :/
     
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    Nice shooting...
     
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    I completely agree.

    My blueprinted M-24 with a Shilen #7 contour, on an HS precision stock is sub 1/2 MOA, but I would have to see the shooting... not the pictures of a target.. but that's just me.. I am a skeptic.....
     
  17. yarik72

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    Thank you Schleprok62 :)

    And The91Bravo, I see you're in TN, but if you're ever going to be in California hit me up and we'll go shooting :D

    I had a chance to go to the range today and was only able to achieve a .5" group...but that was with Federal Power-Shok 150gr. soft points with the help of 14 mph winds and wind gusts up to 21 mph. Needless to say hunting ammo isn't the best stuff to test the accuracy of a rifle. I'll be ordering some HSM ammo this week.

    I guess for the skeptics out there I need to make a video of me shooting and make sure the target and me are always in the picture even when I have to walk down range to bring it back. Perhaps that is what I will do one day.

    Oh and The91Bravo, you do know that there are many people out there with Remmy 700's shooting below half MOA that either have no work done to them or just a trigger or bedding job right? Just makin sure ;)
     
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    I'd like to see what yarik could do behind your blueprinted M-24. If it's only doing 1/2 MOA the problem isn't the gun.
     
  19. yarik72

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    Although I'm curious about that myself, I'll be blueprinting my bolt and receiver, so we'll see how that goes :)
     
  20. Mr. T

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    Hey Mossberg makes a quality gun. I can't speak to every gun they churn out, but I think that the shooter behind the gun is as important as all the modifications that get made to that gun. I have a Mossberg shotgun/slug gun that can consistently shoot 1.5" groups at 150 yards (3 shot groups). To others saying that Mossberg can't turn out an accurate gun, you are just plain biased against the company in my opinion. Maybe that bias comes from what you've heard, or maybe what you might have experienced with a gun you owned but when an OP puts up information and everyone cries B.S. - well I just think you all might need to check the negativity at the door. To the OP I just have to say congratulations on a great gun and the excellent results you've achieved with it. I hope you have a lot of fun with it; I know that I've had fun with my Mossberg shotguns. Oh and thanks for sharing your information; I may just consider getting one myself. :)
     
  21. Col. Plink

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    Sub-MOA for $250 at WallyWorld, $50 scope from same, what's not to love?

    the recoil was intense, however. I may get one in .243 someday...
     
  22. yarik72

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    Thank you sir :)

    Unfortunately I spent a little more than both of those prices from a retail gun store :(
     
  23. jonmerritt

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    Yes the atr-100 is a very accurate rifle. With a little tuning, you can get jaw dropping results at the range. Been there done that. Its fun to watch them shake there head while saying "no way, impossiable with a cheap %$%%# rifle" And yet it is doing just that infront of there very eyes.
     
  24. jpwilly

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    Yea, I was totally surprised by the accuracy of mine. Bought it in 2007 and set it up as a budget WalMart special project. Everything on it is from WalMart, Centerpoint 4-16x40mm Scope, Weaver Rings, Bi-pod, and Paint...$375+tax for all.

    Thus far it's shot 5 shot groups of 1" -3/4" from a rest (with the occasional smaller and larger group) using nothing more than $13 box Federal 150gr Soft Point ammo. Handloads have been shot but I haven't done enough testing to find it's preferred loading. Most of my development time has been spent with a Savage 10 .308, M1-Garand in 308 and DPMS AR-15 223 Varmint / Target rig.

    I should get back out with this rig as it's light enough to hunt with and being 30-06 can take most critters that can be found on the continent.
     
  25. TechBrute

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    Not impossible, just impossible to be credible on the Internet.

    Statistically, it's much more likely that the poster is exaggerating than Mossy putting out a .25moa rifle.

    Also, I think the load data should be posted. I'm unaware of any match quality 30-06, so I assume it must be hand loads. I'll raise the BS flag if this was done with CMP ammo. LOL.
     
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