The Lone Haranguer
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The only legitimate reason I can see for "carding" you would be age verification on an age-restricted item, but why type in the entire DL number? 
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If you buy .22lr for a rifle you must be 18 years old, if you buy it for a handgun you must be 21.
I have had someone ask me for my id when buying handgun ammo. They type in the birthdate to make sure you are 21, just like buying beer. The times it has happened to me it was someone you could tell didn't work back there often and was following the book. The usual people would just ask if I was at least 21 and laugh.
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Re: Old Fuff, post number 14
We have attempted to discuss Bloomberg and Wal-Mart before, just the threads become a WM bashing thread and are locked. Pertinent information is over shadowed, by the bashing.
We have attempted to discuss Bloomberg and Wal-Mart before, just the threads become a WM bashing thread and are locked. Pertinent information is over shadowed, by the bashing.
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I'm a manager and Wal-mart and have never asked a customer for their ID except to check their age. If the feds were in fact requirig it then it would apply to ALL Wal-marts, our company does not have rules for some stores and not others. The only thing I can think is that maybe it is a state thing, or they needed it if you paid by check......If not I would ask to speak to the store manager--a store policy would be an invasion of privacy and probably in violation of company policy.
I'm a manager and Wal-mart and have never asked a customer for their ID except to check their age. If the feds were in fact requirig it then it would apply to ALL Wal-marts, our company does not have rules for some stores and not others. The only thing I can think is that maybe it is a state thing, or they needed it if you paid by check......If not I would ask to speak to the store manager--a store policy would be an invasion of privacy and probably in violation of company policy.
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Mike2 said:
This happened to me about a month ago at a Wal-Mart in Western Missouri. I casually stopped by the ammo counter around midnight and found they had some Blazer Brass in stock. Got 2 boxes of .40 S&W FMJ and 2 boxes of 9mm FMJ.
More often than not I have to show my driver's license (to verify age: I'm in my 20's), which is fine by me. But this last time the clerk typed in extra keys and I asked "Did you just type in my driver's license?" "Yeah, some people just hit ENTER but I type it in just to be safe."
I left that store furious, as I don't want any of my information in any corporate, private, or governmental database.
Made a note on my to-do list to write a letter to both the local store and to corporate but haven't gotten around to it. Saw this thread today and I feel somewhat glad it's not just me.
And the whole Bloomberg-Walmart link was from May 2008. I've been perfectly fine buying ammo from Walmart until this one incident in May 2009 where he typed in my driver's license #.
What gives???
I'm boycotting Walmart for ammo, but this won't be effective unless I actually organize a boycott for Walmart to change their unethical behavior. Wonder if that's even possible. Sam Walton's rolling in his grave. Ever noticed how it's hard to find anything "Made in USA" in that store now? Yet it's the only place in town for me to buy things since I live in a small town.
dullh
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Not a problem here - the Wal-Marts around here ain't got any in stock! When they do have it in stock not a single one I've been in has asked for any ID of any kind.
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I used to work in a walmart in high school. SOP was to type in the DL number on every age restricted purchase (tobacco/alcohol/ammo). Some stores are aggressive then others when it comes to this. The ones that are have been busted before for selling tobacco to kids or something. Our registers would keep track of how many DL's we entered. That number could be compared to the number of age restricted sales. Then we could get yelled at by management.
Later on I was promoted to department manager of sporting goods. The DL numbers don't get saved or recorded. My boss told me then that everyone will be carded or it was my ass. Needless to say everyone no matter what age they were got carded for every age controlled purchase. If people don't want to show their ID, that was fine with me. I wouldn't sell to them. One day I bought 100 low brass shells from a subordinate and he carded me.
My info comes for 2004-2005 era. The subordinate that carded me is now the department manager and tells me it is still the same and has nothing to do with ammo rationing.
Later on I was promoted to department manager of sporting goods. The DL numbers don't get saved or recorded. My boss told me then that everyone will be carded or it was my ass. Needless to say everyone no matter what age they were got carded for every age controlled purchase. If people don't want to show their ID, that was fine with me. I wouldn't sell to them. One day I bought 100 low brass shells from a subordinate and he carded me.
My info comes for 2004-2005 era. The subordinate that carded me is now the department manager and tells me it is still the same and has nothing to do with ammo rationing.
jakemccoy
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I would not purchase at a store that recorded my DL number to buy ammo. I'd walk out and purchase elsewhere, maybe online. I don't care if I'd have to spend a few more bucks.
FiREhAwk
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At my local walmarts they have the 6 boxes only policy also, and the ones I do not frequent often may ask for id but they do not type the # in. I have never been asked "handgun or rifle?" before either, even when I was under 21.
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Nope
AirForceShooter
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Had it happen to me at WW in Bradenton on SR70.
Funniest part was when he asked for ID I showed my CCW. He told me that wasn't ID.
Also got the ATF BS part.
He sure wasn't checking age, I have gray hair.
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Funniest part was when he asked for ID I showed my CCW. He told me that wasn't ID.
Also got the ATF BS part.
He sure wasn't checking age, I have gray hair.
AFS
chuckusaret
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Here in West Palm I too was asked for ID and I showed my military form 2A retired card. The clerk made the same statement and I said get the manager, he did, the military card was approved as ID and the clerk was told to accept them in the future.
CajunBass
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Well, I've never been carded for ammo at any Wal-Mart in Virginia. Since Virginia is I believe the Number 1 state on Bloomberg's "hit list," apparently the stores here haven't gotten the message.
I tend to think it has more to do with, as someone who has worked there said, verifying the employee actually looked at the ID. I used to work in a "shop and rob" and they were pretty tight on checking ID's for beer and smokes. (Ammo too actually. Some of the more rural stores sold some shotgun and 22 ammo so they had a policy on it in the manual.)
I tend to think it has more to do with, as someone who has worked there said, verifying the employee actually looked at the ID. I used to work in a "shop and rob" and they were pretty tight on checking ID's for beer and smokes. (Ammo too actually. Some of the more rural stores sold some shotgun and 22 ammo so they had a policy on it in the manual.)
I speculate it was because you weren't paying by credit card.
Maryland has a 'secret' agreement with some stores, that they forward on ammunition purchase info to the state. The owner of the credit card, or the store reward card (Dicks, Bass Pro) = adequate ID. A cash purchase - the computer doesn't automatically have your ID.
I speculate that if Maryland has this program and considers it 'successful', then your state does too.
Maryland has a 'secret' agreement with some stores, that they forward on ammunition purchase info to the state. The owner of the credit card, or the store reward card (Dicks, Bass Pro) = adequate ID. A cash purchase - the computer doesn't automatically have your ID.
I speculate that if Maryland has this program and considers it 'successful', then your state does too.
rscalzo
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Care to elaborate?
NH Wal-mart stores ask for id. Most likely due to the proximity to MA and their requirements to purchase ammo.
420Stainless
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I haven't been asked for ID when purchasing ammo in MS thus far. Haven't purchase any for a couple of weeks, but I think I would have heard about a new law if there was one.
Must be something Wal-Mart is encouraging, even if not an actual policy.
Must be something Wal-Mart is encouraging, even if not an actual policy.
swiftak
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A couple of years ago, I bought some 22 ammo at Walmart, and the guy asked to see my Drivers License. I asked why, because no one in NH askes to see ID for ammo. He said that if I was from Massachusetts he had to see a Fid card or some such crap. I asked him why Walmart in NH was enforcing Massachustees law. He just said he was doing what he was told. What a load of crap. I won't get into my feelings about Mass.
jakemccoy
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Yosemite Sam, don't get your pressure up too much. They'll get your information if they want it when you pay by check or credit card. Also, your information is already permanently in some corporate database somewhere. It won't be deleted even if it's deleted, if you know what I mean. However, I do understand trying to limit the amount personal information that's out there whenever you can. Just don't get too wound up about it.
SCKimberFan
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Ammo is NOT controlled, other than an age restriction. I can buy ammo anywhere I please - except for maybe IL with its FOID BS.
Think someone broke a rule
I think someone broke a rule this morning. Maybe me, but no one said anything so... Anyway, I happened to see a couple of boxes of 7.62X39 for my SKS on my way to my local Wal Mart's grocery section (Is this a great country or what? Eggs, socks, and ammo 24 hours a day!!!!), and the ammo clerk was helping some guy to some 40. I asked for the stuff I needed, dropped it in my cart, and did my grocery shopping.
Only when I went through the self check out line (GRRRRRRRRRRRRRR I hate being the best clerk in the Wal Mart!) did I get any static, and then the register dinged for ID. They older gentleman watching over that section walked up, waved his magic ID which caused the machine to ask if I was 18, looked at me, chuckled, told the register yes, and walked away.
Now the shelves were bare except for the stuff I bought, and the 40, but I had no ID issues at all.
I think someone broke a rule this morning. Maybe me, but no one said anything so... Anyway, I happened to see a couple of boxes of 7.62X39 for my SKS on my way to my local Wal Mart's grocery section (Is this a great country or what? Eggs, socks, and ammo 24 hours a day!!!!), and the ammo clerk was helping some guy to some 40. I asked for the stuff I needed, dropped it in my cart, and did my grocery shopping.
Only when I went through the self check out line (GRRRRRRRRRRRRRR I hate being the best clerk in the Wal Mart!) did I get any static, and then the register dinged for ID. They older gentleman watching over that section walked up, waved his magic ID which caused the machine to ask if I was 18, looked at me, chuckled, told the register yes, and walked away.
Now the shelves were bare except for the stuff I bought, and the 40, but I had no ID issues at all.
Erik M
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When I was an employee at Wal-Mart the department manager always told me that typing the #ID into the register was a simple way to determine if the person was old enough to buy the product you just scanned if you were to slow to figure out how old someone is by looking at thier birthdate.
This was several years ago, and I know Krogers logs the information captured when you use that +card thing they have. maybe Wal-Mart does compile a database of ammuntion purchased. Wouldnt that be something to hear about on Fox News.
This was several years ago, and I know Krogers logs the information captured when you use that +card thing they have. maybe Wal-Mart does compile a database of ammuntion purchased. Wouldnt that be something to hear about on Fox News.
I've had my dl entered for ammo purchases at WM here in PA. When I asked I was told it was WM policy for handgun ammo purchases. Next time I went and bought 44MAG when asked I said no I was shooting it in a rifle and they didn't want dl. Makes no sense whatsoever in my opinion.
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