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This is what our NRA membership dollars go toward?

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by John Wayne, Sep 23, 2010.

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  1. John Wayne

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    Saw this on youtube, and if it hadn't been posted by the NRA, I would have thought it was a parody done by some anti-gun group. I thought the video reinforced several negative stereotypes about gun owners. As a gun owner, I was put off by it; had I been indifferent or anti-gun, I think this would only strengthen my opinions of the aforementioned negative stereotypes. If the NRA, the premier organization respoinsible for protecting our 2nd Amendment rights, continues putting out ads as unprofessional as this, I will think twice before making any more donations.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIekO108H9c
     
  2. VinnAY

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    I must agree with you JW.
     
  3. jcwit

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    Sorta crappy to start with but ended up being pro. Might just take something like this to get the laggards out to vote.
     
  4. Sam1911

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    Uhhhh.... Wow.

    It's an ... uh ... attempt to ... erm ... reach out to ... well, somebody ... uh ... sheesh.





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    Poor Chuck Norris. He must have an incredibly thick skin and a very well developed sense of humor.
     
  5. lima_w

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    I thought it was pretty funny myself
     
  6. jnyork

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    I could only watch about 30 seconds of it. What an embarassment. :scrutiny:
     
  7. Rshooter

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    It struck me as a parody. It ended on a positive note.

    I have heard many people protest the NRA and at one time I was one of them, thinking their message was to strong. "The antigunners will never pass and assault weapons bill". Now I am a life member.
     
  8. Z-Michigan

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    It ended on an OK note, but it's a disaster overall. Not the kind of trash I would want my NRA dues going for.
     
  9. John Wayne

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    Rshooter, I don't think their message is too strong. I just think that a room full of sleeveless-denim-shirt-wearing Chuck Norris wannabees does not promote the image of gun owners as being professional or intelligent.

    There is another NRA ad featuring Chuck Norris standing on the porch of his home. In the background there is a "We Don't Dial 911" sign, which, to me, says that the NRA is saying that you should shoot first and ask questions later.

    Think about how this looks to someone who has never been around guns--maybe you talk about the benefits of gun ownership, how it is a right guaranteed by the constitutuion, and how the stereotype of gun owners being careless rednecks looking for an excuse to shoot people is wrong. Maybe you convince them that normal looking people who are not lacking in social skills do own guns...and then they see this?
     
  10. Sam1911

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    I'm conflicted.

    This does nothing to change my overall opinion of the NRA, my decision to support which pro-RKBA organizations, or my commitment to the cause.

    However, like I said, I'm conflicted.

    I can't seem to decide if:
    a) I'm offended because they think this is an effective "straight" appeal to ME; or,
    b) I'm offended because they are making a blatant "low class" straight appeal to certain members of the shooting public they think this will resonate with (i.e.: a predatory "beer and bar-b-que" get-out-the-vote call to those who won't understand higher messages); or,
    c) I'm offended because they think this is an effective "ironic" appeal to me (i.e.: that I'll find it funny in an arrogantly superior way to laugh at the antics of the less cultured among us); or,
    d) I'm offended because of the implication TO THE PUBLIC AT LARGE, that this is what gun folks (perhaps to include myself:eek:) enjoy/do/are/need/respond to; or,
    e) I'm utterly ambivalent because neither the message nor method is relevant to me so why stress about it; or,
    f) I'm ambivalent because it is merely intended as humor, in a style of which I am not a devote.

    Two "neutrals" and four "negatives" in my list of possible responses. :scrutiny:
     
  11. AhHeck

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    I thought it was hilarious, it reminded me of some threads I've read on a few forums.

    VOTE
     
  12. jahwarrior

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    wow. just....wow. my original thought wasn't High Road.

    this is another reason why i'm glad i let my membership lapse, aside from all the damn junk mail i was getting from them every two days to RENEW MY MEMBERSHIP BEFORE CAPITOL HILL TAKES MY GUNS AWAY!!! this is what member dues are paying for? pfffft.:fire:
     
  13. essayons21

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    I think this was supposed to be a parody of the stereotypes anti-gunners and the MSM place on the NRA. Kinda funny, but I'm really not sure how it will play to the target audience, or even who that audience is.

    Your dollars are better spent giving to local RKBA organizations anyway.

    EDIT: And even though I let my membership lapse a few years back over the NRA's handling of Heller (and taking credit for things they didn't support), they still send me loads of junk mail asking for money.
     
  14. snubbies

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    Lighten Up!!!!

    Take it for what is was intended for, "a little humor to get across a point"
     
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    I like Chuck as a person not necessarly as an actor. That being said "Golly Gee Whiz THAT SUCKED"!!!!!!
     
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    Golly at least #11 & #14 got it too. We must be the hicks,VOTE
     
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    I thought it was pretty funny. You have to understand that there is a whole genre of Chuck Norris parody. It's based on his super human toughness and the worship of said toughness. Absurdity and stereotypes are part of the humor and fun.
     
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    That's 3 minutes of my life I will never get back.
     
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    Wayne LaPierre's new Porsche???
     
  21. JohnBT

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    Dues don't pay for much and federal law restricts their use to certain things.

    It's listed as produced by...

    "Copyright 2010 NRA Freedom Action Foundation"

    www.nrafaf.org

    "This website is sponsored by the NRA Freedom Action Foundation, which the Internal Revenue Service has recognized as a charity under Section 501(c)(3) of the Internal Revenue Code. Contributions are deductible for federal income tax purposes as charitable donations."


    Federal law severely restricts the use of dues. Looking again at the NRA site...

    "At the same time, many are unaware of some of the important regulations and restrictions that govern NRA’s legislative and political activities, particularly those relating to the segregated nature of fund-raising activities.

    The fund-raising that sustains NRA’s legislative activities is conducted by ILA. Federal and many state election laws dictate that funds used to assist candidates for office must be raised separately, and that is the task of NRA’s political action committee—the NRA Political Victory Fund (NRA-PVF). Neither NRA member dues nor contributions to ILA can be used directly for the election or defeat of candidates.

    Because of these clearly defined parameters, and because only a small fraction of ILA’s operating budget comes from regular NRA membership dues, both ILA and NRA-PVF must continuously raise the funds needed to sustain NRA’s legislative and political activities. The resources expended in these arenas come from the generous contributions of NRA members—above and beyond their regular dues.

    While NRA doesn’t expect every member to contribute to every fund-raising mailing, the mailers do double as legislative alerts, providing important information that empowers members to take specific actions: calling lawmakers, writing letters or completing and returning postcards. Sending solicitations periodically allows NRA to keep its members informed on the issues and threats gun owners face, while attempting to accommodate individual member budgets.

    Raising the tens of millions of dollars needed every year to defend Second Amendment rights is no small task. But, in order for NRA to meet the challenges gun owners face head on in the legislative and political arenas, it is a necessity."
     
  22. JohnBT

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    "Wayne LaPierre's new Porsche??? "

    Sour grapes there? Need a better job? I'm sorry.

    John
     
  23. MrOldLude

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    I skipped the video, but I will say I paid dues to the NRA for a while. What put me off was the fear-mongering telemarketers who would call me, telling half-truths and purely blatant lies in order to acquire additional donations. So I said F them.
     
  24. jimmyraythomason

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    I fully support the work of the NRA and The ILA. I have decided to skip all such hachet jobs like these anti-NRA threads. I didn't watch the video and only read a select few of these posts. Our opposition will stop at nothing to discredit us,our rights and those who work to defend them. Divide and conquer is a tactic that the antis know well and use often.
     
  25. Andrew Wyatt

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    i thought that was a hilarious video.
     
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